Current Events > The light speed scene in The Last Jedi is top 10 in the franchise

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Haters have attempted to strip all the fun out of this entire movie and I wont allow it.

its absolutely top 10. Its phenomenal. If you cant let yourself enjoy it, thats your own problem and no one elses.

Detractors say why did no one try this before and I say why cant that be the first time?Seeing something for the literal first time isnt a critique.

and then people say why cant it be done again. I mean episode 9, which is a complete piece of dogshit imho and shits on TLJ in so many ways, has the perfect explanation. It was one in a million. Yall let these movies make up their own rules a thousand other times but its this scene specifically you have problems digesting? No its not the scene. Its you. You miserable, sad human bean.

Star wars visions did it better

The explanation in 9 was about as good as the explanation for Palpatine's return.

Jabodie posted...

The explanation in 9 was about as good as the explanation for Palpatine's return.

No not even close. Somehow palatine has returned is a literal meme.

The other is haters not being able to have fun. Clear difference

Some take the hate to extreme levels and that's stupid AF, but most of us just think it and other things in the movie are kinda dumb to outright bad and don't let it get that much too us. We're just disappointed mainly. Then you have extreme defenders going "Omg you must hate fun and must be the most miserable people ever who complain about everything! You must hate everything in life!" and generalizing all us critics.

Like jeez, it's not that bad.

Visually it looked great, I was just annoyed by Holdo killing herself when they could have had a droid do it.

Southernfatman posted...

Some take the hate to extreme levels and that's stupid AF, but most of us just think it and other things in the movie are kinda dumb to outright bad and don't let it get that much too us. We're just disappointed mainly. Then you have extreme defenders going "Omg you must hate fun and must be the most miserable people ever who complain about everything! You must hate everything in life!" and generalizing all us critics.

Like jeez, it's not that bad.

If one of the coolest scenes put to film bothers you that you hold on to critiques that dont even make sense.yeah Id say you let the hatred consume you like a true Sithlord

scar the 1 posted...

Visually it looked great, I was just annoyed by Holdo killing herself when they could have had a droid do it.

I mean isnt it implied she used the force in some ways?

Honest question has a droid ever used the force in any Star Was media?

SwayM posted...

I mean isnt it implied she used the force in some ways?

Honest question has a droid ever used the force in any Star Was media?

No, to my knowledge it was never implied that Holdo could use the Force at all.

scar the 1 posted...

No, to my knowledge it was never implied that Holdo could use the Force at all.

I mean the fact she pulled off a one in a million thing that no one else even attempted is literally the implication.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/1/AAB3ooAADTYx.jpg

That's a pretty weak implication

scar the 1 posted...

Visually it looked great, I was just annoyed by Holdo killing herself when they could have had a droid do it.

Droids can't self terminate

scar the 1 posted...

That's a pretty weak implication

You can believe what you like. I have reasons for believing she used the force and youre just sticking your fingers in your ears.

SwayM posted...

If one of the coolest scenes put to film bothers you that you hold on to critiques that dont even make sense.yeah Id say you let the hatred consume you like a true Sithlord

See, this is about as silly as the people who act like the movie killed their dog or something.

I lol'd at Dennis though.

Southernfatman posted...

See, this is about as silly as the people who act like the movie killed their dog or something.

I lol'd at Dennis though.

How is that remotely comparable?

Like Im just saying have fun in life and enjoy things. And okay if you really didnt like it, fine, move on. But you literally cant even talk about the movie or the scene in general with haters coming out of the woodworks to bring the same nonsensical critiques.

People who try to piss in everyones cornflakes are the literal worst. Theres no comparison here. And yall who lump everyone together like this arent doing the world any favours either though.

SwayM posted...

You can believe what you like. I have reasons for believing she used the force and youre just sticking your fingers in your ears.

The utter irony of this statement.

Gamerguymass posted...

The utter irony of this statement.

Point it out please. Im believing something based on a clear line of logic from the film and taking the time to explain it and dude is literally just like yeah no

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Compare the size of the ships in TLJ to an x wing to the Death Star.

also again, if any Jabroni could do this. They would have.

That movie was horrible for so many reasons, that scene isnt one of them. Id hardly call it a top 10 moment however

SwayM posted...

How is that remotely comparable?

Like Im just saying have fun in life and enjoy things. And okay if you really didnt like it, fine, move on. But you literally cant even talk about the movie or the scene in general with haters coming out of the woodworks to bring the same nonsensical critiques.

People who try to piss in everyones cornflakes are the literal worst. Theres no comparison here. And yall who lump everyone together like this arent doing the world any favours either though.

You just seem to be going in the other extreme direction in thinking that anyone who has a problem with that scene or the movie is nonsensical or must not have fun in life. I don't care if people like TLJ. I've even sort of defended TLJ before. I've said I at least somewhat understand why people like it and that it at least tried something different even if I didn't like it and that's better than say, Rogue One or ROS that were just trying to toe the line and try to please everyone to the point of desperate pandering.

Mensis posted...

That movie was horrible for so many reasons, that scene isnt one of them. Id hardly call it a top 10 moment however

Theres probably a lot less 10 material in the entire movie franchise than you think.

SwayM posted...

has the perfect explanation. It was one in a million.

If it was one in a million why was Hux so panicked when he realized what she was doing?

Holdo was worse than Jar Jar. Everything about the character was terrible, kamikaze attack included.

TLJ is wonderful and I can argue why almost all its "flaws" people point out are actually good things.

The weird journey of Finn and Rose on the planet surface is the flaw I can't really argue against. It did really seem to screw the pacing and wasn't strong enough to interrupt the other cool shit going on.

Why build a Death Star when a missile going hyper-speed would F=MA a planet into subatomic particles?

DarkRoast posted...

Why build a Death Star when a missile going hyper-speed would F=MA a planet into subatomic particles?

Bc nobody thought about it before Holdo

except every 6 year old who had been introduced to any form of space sci-fi.

TLJ: (Holdo maneuver)
Isaac Newton: Son of a bitch

What about one of those big Mon Calamari frigates? You'd figure even an x-wing going at that rate of speed would still majorly fuck up the DS. If they could track the DS's path and trajectory and such they wouldn't even need to be close to do it. Just set your coordinates and boom.

I'm still not as hard on that scene as most people, but I still wonder about that sort of stuff.

It wouldve been even better if Holdo wasnt an awful character.

Southernfatman posted...

What about one of those big Mon Calamari frigates? You'd figure even an x-wing going at that rate of speed would still majorly fuck up the DS.

If you actually sit down and do the math of how much kinetic energy a near-light-speed macroscopic object has, it's kind of hilarious.

wasn't this also the one with the superman scene? lol top 10 scene right there

Somehow it was one in a million

The amount of open contempt the third film had for the second was both kind of hilarious and really sad.

Southernfatman posted...

What about one of those big Mon Calamari frigates? You'd figure even an x-wing going at that rate of speed would still majorly fuck up the DS. If they could track the DS's path and trajectory and such they wouldn't even need to be close to do it. Just set your coordinates and boom.

I'm still not as hard on that scene as most people, but I still wonder about that sort of stuff.

It wouldn't work. It was one in a million because [redacted].

My only complaint about TLJ is we go from the fast paced stuff on canto bight to what amounts to the oj simpson chase but in space.

Jabodie posted...

It wouldn't work. It was one in a million because [redacted].

Something about, uh, shields.... I don't fucking know.

Oh my god its literally all explained the books, it all make perfect sense! Leave my Star Wars alone!!

I never really cared about the character assassination of Luke in TLJ bc there are significantly larger issues with the film but it just hit me how fucking dweebish you'd have to be to kill the character off in your own movie after everyone was waiting for his return, and just deny him his spot in the finale.

Honestly, hyperspace kind of makes a mess of space combat no matter what the rules are. If it was like before where things in hyperspace can't hit anything they'd still make for incredibly overpowered missiles. Strap a hyperdrive and a droid brain for guidance to a missile, then have it jump out of hyperspace shortly before impacting the target.

SwayM posted...

You can believe what you like. I have reasons for believing she used the force and youre just sticking your fingers in your ears.

Amazing post.

the force is female

AllHeDoesIsWin posted...

If it was one in a million why was Hux so panicked when he realized what she was doing?

Because of exactly what happened? Its a movie btw. The added tension makes the scene better.

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Rogue Ones amazing final act had a whole bit about ships ramming each other in space.

lilORANG posted...

Bc nobody thought about it before Holdo

except every 6 year old who had been introduced to any form of space sci-fi.

Should have became a Star Wars writer then. The series could use more of that wonder. Instead of more Sand Planets and space politics.

DarkRoast posted...

The amount of open contempt the third film had for the second was both kind of hilarious and really sad.

Agreed. Mostly sad imho. When all 3 movies in your trilogy really are fighting with each other its not a good look.

But I stand with the decisions TLJ made, I think they were smarter and more interesting. I think JJs sour grapes after the fact and his inability to play nice after TLJ is just childish and ultimately brought the movie down completely. Literally resulting, imho, not just the worst movie in the Star Wars legacy by a county mile. But honestly one of the worst movies Ive ever had the displeasure of seeing.

Southernfatman posted...

You just seem to be going in the other extreme direction in thinking that anyone who has a problem with that scene or the movie is nonsensical or must not have fun in life. I don't care if people like TLJ. I've even sort of defended TLJ before. I've said I at least somewhat understand why people like it and that it at least tried something different even if I didn't like it and that's better than say, Rogue One or ROS that were just trying to toe the line and try to please everyone to the point of desperate pandering.

Also the more I think about it this needs to be said.

All the conversations about TLJ for the 5 years since its release have been dictated and controlled by the extremely vocal haters.

So yeah being extreme about select praise the movie deserves is where you have to be to even get a word in edgewise.

Honestly I didn't like tlj, mostly because I think Holdo was very poorly characterized for someone we were supposed to admire. For most of the movie I legitimately thought she was a saboteur, so that says a lot about how the crew must have thought of her. Regardless, at least it tried to shake up the formula, as compared to the stale boring JJ Abrams movies.

TLJ is pretty good when you ignore all the implications on the lore and world building for star wars, outside of the entirety of Canto Bight. And that's not something that can be said of RoS.

It's difficult to imagine the EU salvaging the sequel era like it did the prequel era... but who knows.

scar the 1 posted...

Visually it looked great, I was just annoyed by Holdo killing herself when they could have had a droid do it.

Thanks for the spoiler.

SwayM posted...

Compare the size of the ships in TLJ to an x wing to the Death Star.

also again, if any Jabroni could do this. They would have.

I'm just gonna pop in right here before I read on.

"As an object approaches the speed of light, the object's mass becomes infinite and so does the energy required to move it."

If someone in an X-Wing throws out a thumbtack while going at lightspeed, the thumbtack could cause the same amount of damage.

The scene makes no sense at all. Also they called it a 1 in a million, one in a million isn't much when there are billions of stars, a flight computer has to make a lot of calculations all the time to avoid hitting another object in space. Plus all she had to do was make a 180 degree turn and hit the gas.

There was no force implication, there was an attempt to "cover up the stupid", much like "Somehow, Palpatine" line.

I agree 100% that it looked cool. But it was beyond brain dead and broke any semblance of sense to the lightspeed travel and war tactics in Star WARS.
If they wanted to just blow your mind with moronic special effect they could have had Holdo use the Force to pull in 10 suns to smash the Supremacy, or pulled out a Jar Jar canon out of her ass and shot them with it. Both of those scenarios make just as much sense if not more.

lilORANG posted...

I never really cared about the character assassination of Luke in TLJ bc there are significantly larger issues with the film but it just hit me how fucking dweebish you'd have to be to kill the character off in your own movie after everyone was waiting for his return, and just deny him his spot in the finale.

Precisely, He was turned into an asshole just to give him a redemption + death scene.

"Somehow, Luke has gone bad"