Current Events > Anti-Work has done more work than we realize

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Majority of reddit users are infact not people 25+ in the workforce. The zoomers are the ones who will show us what work has truly been done. Many millennials are already set in their ways and think "meh being exploited is just da weyy it is". But when it is time for the zoomers to take the reigns these companies are going be like "where all da workers at? Where all the new talent we can underpay!! These millennials threatening to quit if not given a raise but I go no out of college talent I can hire instead! NOOOO"

WingsOfGood posted...

But when it is time for the zoomers to take the reigns

They're about as technologically literate as 70 year olds, and have such a lack of human interaction that their main frame of reference for it is YouTube videos.

No, it hasn't, I still see 12 hour factory jobs + Overtime all of the place (a lot are unfilled as well), come back when I see few jobs like this.

CRON posted...

They're about as technologically literate as 70 year olds, and have such a lack of human interaction that their main frame of reference for it is YouTube videos.

how is that even remotely true? lol They grew up with technology.

Zoomers seem less likely to stay in a job than older generations and move on to the next for better pay. They are the majority of the great resignation. At the same time, many feel self-entitled and expecting salaries of someone in the industry who has worked 5-10 years longer.

Hop103 posted...

No, it hasn't, I still see 12 hour factory jobs + Overtime all of the place (a lot are unfilled as well), come back when I see few jobs like this.

zoomers gonna apply for these?

millennials getting older and boomers dying

Where we're at right now, growing inflation and plummeting investments, working less is definitely not a good solution.

MistyFan462 posted...

Where we're at right now, growing inflation and plummeting investments, working less is definitely not a good solution.

for your boomers boss? sure

1990s: dey took er jerbs!
2020s: fuck that job!

Questionmarktarius posted...

1990s: dey took er jerbs!
2020s: fuck that job!

dey took er jerbs people actually didn't want those jobs though

they just wanted to be racist

what a subtweet

Til mommy and daddy cut them off

Unless zoomers plan on living with their parents forever they'll be in for a rude awakening

Solid Snake07 posted...

Til mommy and daddy cut them off

you wish they relied on mommy and daddy

WingsOfGood posted...

dey took er jerbs people actually didn't want those jobs though

they just wanted to be racist

That's probably fair.

The long version is that blue-collar jobs that paid well has been wandering off since the 70s. Modern blue-collar work doesn't really exist, and the only real avenue for unskilled labor is McJobs that pay abysmally.

voldothegr8 posted...

Unless zoomers plan on living with their parents forever they'll be in for a rude awakening

not how it works

fyi companies rely on the workforce more than the workers rely on the pay of companies

but your generation was fed propaganda and gobbled it down

also, there is many alternative paths to income zoomers have paved the way for

Are you really still simping for that subreddit after their whole blowout?

Arcanine2009 posted...

how is that even remotely true? lol They grew up with technology.

I mean, they know how to use app stores and social media.

Most technology is hidden behind simple interfaces now which means you can use surface-level tech without ever really learning the mechanics underneath.

Questionmarktarius posted...

the long version is that blue-collar jobs that paid well has been wandering off since the 70s. modern blue-collar work doesn't really exist, and the only real avenue for unskilled labor is mcjobs that pay abysmally.

Retail is still quite lucrative. What are you talking about?

voldothegr8 posted...

Unless zoomers plan on living with their parents forever they'll be in for a rude awakening

Generational housing, all Walton's style, is making a comeback.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Generational housing, all Walton's style, is making a comeback.

"noo WE must mock them for reusing the same house with many families!! RAHH!"

meanwhile more than half the planet does this anyways

This is counter to zoomers perception of millennials. They think we're crybaby bitches that can't accept that we won't own homes and constantly got fucked by the generations before us. Zoomers have mostly made their peace with it. Millennials actually spent their lives fighting against it and failing

WingsOfGood posted...

"meh being exploited is just da weyy it is"

for context, TC is quoting me in the above from a conversation we were having earlier but decided to make a new topic instead of continuing the conversation.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80040875/965454338

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Millennials actually spent their lives fighting against it and failing

This is the reality. Millennials fought their fight and got nowhere so most of us accepted "things are the way they are" and moved on. As I said to TC before, just because I've moved on, doesn't mean I agree with the corruption. I've just accepted that we're all powerless and will never truly be able to change the system.

WingsOfGood posted...

you wish they relied on mommy and daddy

Theyre relying on somebody if sitting on their ass all day doing nothing is feasible.

pretty easy to talk big when youve reliably got a comfortable and safe place to sleep every night with food in your belly

Jiek_Fafn posted...

This is counter to zoomers perception of millennials. They think we're crybaby bitches that can't accept that we won't own homes and constantly got fucked by the generations before us. Zoomers have mostly made their peace with it. Millennials actually spent their lives fighting against it and failing

This is incorrect and kinda funny.

A quick google shows "gen z is better workers than millenials! They are more professional!"

The irony?

Most of gen z isn't even out of college yet as the oldest gen z is like 22 year old lmao

Enjoy gobbling up propaganda designed to make millennials get in line for fear they be replaced. And you guys say boomers are stupid.

PatrickMahomes posted...

for context, TC is quoting me in the above from a conversation we were having earlier but decided to make a new topic instead of continuing the conversation.

holy shit wow

that wasn't a quote or even a thought related to you

I guess you must have felt attacked though?

Solid Snake07 posted...

pretty easy to talk big when youve reliably got a comfortable and safe place to sleep every night with food in your belly

Quite. You should try it sometime.

r/NEETdom

TC no one is gonna side with you using that subreddit as your torch.

WingsOfGood posted...

This is incorrect and kinda funny.

A quick google shows "gen z is better workers than millenials! They are more professional!"

The irony?

Most of gen z isn't even out of college yet as the oldest gen z is like 22 year old lmao

Enjoy gobbling up propaganda designed to make millennials get in line for fear they be replaced. And you guys say boomers are stupid.

How does this address what I posted?

Solid Snake07 posted...

Theyre relying on somebody if sitting on their ass all day doing nothing is feasible.

pretty easy to talk big when youve reliably got a comfortable and safe place to sleep every night with food in your belly

the idea that if the worker doesn't go to a meaningless job they starve is propaganda and not reality

on the other hand, if the worker doesn't go to a meaningless job the company dies
that is why the propaganda is so strong

you scared?

LinkFanatic posted...

Quite. You should try it sometime.

r/NEETdom

Ah this makes so much sense

Veggeta_MAX posted...

TC no one is gonna side with you using that subreddit as your torch.

fyi, the subreddit is actually stronger than it was before

the only people who thought the movement died from that interview were biased boomers who had spent months whining about it

infact, now it is becoming commonplace for interviewers on jobs to ask candidates "what do you think of anti-work?"

kinda weird to ask about a movement that died last year right?
@Veggeta_MAX

oh wow you drunk every koolaid that subreddit fed you.

WingsOfGood posted...

the idea that if the worker doesn't go to a meaningless job they starve is propaganda and not reality

on the other hand, if the worker doesn't go to a meaningless job the company dies
that is why the propaganda is so strong

you scared?

lol

Someone has to do dirty jobs

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Someone has to do dirty jobs

that someone you?

Companies should pay a living wage though

WingsOfGood posted...

that someone you?

Yes? My last two jobs were dishwasher and janitor. Those aren't as bad as it gets but they are pretty grimy.

People should be paid a living wage for doing the dirty jobs.

Otherwise, do it yourself.

Millennials are already gearing up for the wealth transfer from the boomer die-off by branding Gen Z with the same bullshit boomers did to millennials for years

TC ain't championing for work reform or living wage. he's championing for a free lively hood and against all work. thats what his subreddit is mainly about, living for free and complain about not getting what you want.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

oh wow you drunk every koolaid that subreddit fed you.

Maybe you should stop slurping kool-aid and start reading about it

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/03/23/companies-still-say-they-cant-find-enough-workers-whats-going-on/

While the economy is recovering, the number of jobs still available has been a cause of concern for the Federal Reserve. Chairman Jerome Powell recently pointed out there were 1.7-plus job openings for every unemployed person. According to the latest data from the Labor Department, there are 11.3 million job openings in total.

So thats a very, very tight labor market tight to an unhealthy level, I would say, Powell said during a press conference after the Fed raised interest rates last week. Were hearing from companies that they cant hire enough people.

One job opening per job seeker is the ratio that would likely result in stable wages and prices, according to Jorgen Harris, an assistant professor of economics at Occidental College. We reached this ratio for the first time in 2018 (the government began collecting data on job openings in 2001).
Harris explained the Fed is concerned because when theres an upward pressure on wages, that could lead to an upward pressure on prices (the so-called wage-price spiral).

Labor economists and researchers say the lack of robust child care infrastructure, low wages, poor working conditions and the health issues associated with long COVID may be preventing some people from returning to work. Millions of Americans have also retired early in the last two years.

Overall, the quits rates are highest in sectors such as manufacturing, leisure and hospitality, and retail trade, as recently charted out by Nick Bunker, an economist for Indeed.

https://www.businessinsider.com/job-mismatch-impacting-hiring-challenges-during-pandemic-indeed-2022-2

Millions of Americans have quit their jobs and moved on to new positions. In the tight labor market and about two years since the start of the pandemic, some employers are still struggling to find talent.
Americans month after month are joining the Great Resignation. Workers might not be leaving the labor force completely, but they are searching for better jobs. Some have even thought about leaving simply because of conversations and news about this phenomenon.
But despite record-high quits, there are millions of job openings waiting to be filled each month. Employers are struggling to attract and keep employees around as Americans leave for other jobs where they could make more money, be less stressed, have more flexibility, or not be part of a toxic office.
As employees leave their jobs, businesses are saying they have few or no qualified candidates. While companies are competing to find talent, some businesses are having trouble getting applicants to even show up for interviews. One common explanation is that workers aren't looking for the types of jobs employers have on offer and potential employees lack the skills for the positions that are open.
But a new study from Indeed Hiring Lab suggests that the mismatch between potential employers and employees is overblown.
"I hear a lot of people say, 'oh, well, job seekers just don't want the kinds of jobs that are on offer. They want other kinds of jobs.' I hear that anecdote quite a lot," Tara Sinclair, a senior fellow at the Indeed Hiring Lab and author of the report, told Insider. "And I really feel like this report says that although there are persistent problems in terms of matching what job seekers want and what employers want, that's not explaining what's happening right now."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10868761/Worker-shortage-threatens-summer-restaurants-pools-shutter-staff.html

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/businesses-fail-to-find-workers-and-experts-say-federal-policies-have-made-it-worse/article_cb84f770-d222-11ec-991e-c35685097c38.html

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/04/small-businesses-are-struggling-find-keep-employees/

https://www.cu-citizenaccess.org/2022/05/cu-great-resignation/

*Economy collapses from no work being done*

Haha take that Bezos!

Veggeta_MAX posted...

TC ain't championing for work reform or living wage. he's championing for a free lively hood and against all work. thats what his subreddit is mainly about, living for free and complain about not getting what you want.

anti-work is about jobs paying more for less hours

fyi the old moderator was removed, they don't represent the sub anymore

WingsOfGood posted...

anti-work is about jobs paying more for less hours

they'd downvote you for thinking thats what their about. their whole thing is to not work and live as good as a rich person so really they just want to be a regular rich person lol

Squall28 posted...

*Economy collapses from no work being done*

Haha take that Bezos!

It collapsed even with people working so

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Ah this makes so much sense

It does make sense to proudly enjoy working if I don't have to, yes. I've found a rare dynamic here with my roommates; they're cool with me not working, and since I'm introverted, hate people, and lack social energy...I think I'll stay out of work for as long as I feel like it tyvm. r/noapologies

Do you wanna try it too? NEETdom I mean? I promise it's not that bad, although it might be if you're an extrovert...

Squall28 posted...

*Economy collapses from no work being done*

Haha take that Bezos!

wow you really are worried

no wonder you always come into my threads trying to defend billionaires and corruption

WingsOfGood posted...

holy shit wow

that wasn't a quote or even a thought related to you

I guess you must have felt attacked though?

It's alright homie - like I said, I respect your approach and wouldn't fight you otherwise. But you didn't need to make a subtweet-style topic in response.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

they'd downvote you for thinking thats what their about. their whole thing is to not work and live as good as a rich person so really they just want to be a regular rich person lol

every other post is that hiring signs saying they can't find people to fill the positions just aren't paying enough

the majority sentiment from the sub is that if you pay good wages and have good working conditions people will gladly work

so why are you lying about it? got an ulterior motive?

LinkFanatic posted...

It does make sense to proudly enjoy working if I don't have to, yes. I've found a rare dynamic here with my roommates; they're cool with me not working, and since I'm introverted, hate people, and lack social energy...I think I'll stay out of work for as long as I feel like it tyvm. r/noapologies

Do you wanna try it too? NEETdom I mean? I promise it's not that bad, although it might be if you're an extrovert...

I wouldn't feel cool leeching off people. Are you at least doing the dishes and keeping things tidy around the house?