Current Events > Annnnnd they blamed video games

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I also like how she blamed covid lockdowns

Crimsoness posted...

I also like how she blamed covid lockdowns

Because we all know how draconian they were in Texas

Video games are protected by the first amendment, for the time being.

Cheater87 posted...

Video games are protected by the first amendment, for the time being.

Only the 2nd matters to the people who run this country

GOP ideal man be like

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/3/AAeEwGAADRrH.jpg

DarkRoast posted...

Fortunately, the rest of the world doesn't have broken families, so that's why they don't have mass shootings.

I like when Republicans admit that America is the worst country in the world when they make excuses for bullshit like mass shootings.

They do all kinds of backflips to make everything about America and its culture look awful, just so guns don't look to blame. Guns, or anything related to them, are literally the only thing they actually care about. God, economy, Trump? Honestly all trivial to them when guns are under threat.

hockeybub89 posted...

I like when Republicans admit that America is the worst country in the world when they make excuses for bullshit like mass shootings.

They do all kinds of backflips to make everything about America and its culture look awful, just so guns don't look to blame. Guns, or anything related to them, are literally the only thing they actually care about. God, economy, Trump? Honestly all trivial to them when guns are under threat.

It's not really about the guns, either. It's about fear.

DarkRoast posted...

Fortunately, the rest of the world doesn't have broken families, so that's why they don't have mass shootings.

Ironically they don't care if a child is born into a broken or abusive family, they only care that it is born and not aborted.

Republicans - Guns dont kill people, people kill people!

Also Republicans - The killer was motivated by video games! Its the video games fault!

Lebronwon posted...

Looks like there is a list

https://twitter.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1530198612105371648

Her next post is "whenever i see someone voluntarily wearing a mask im gonna point and shout monkeypox!"

-_-

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1530199474265591808

hockeybub89 posted...

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1530199474265591808

I just saw another tweet where this idiot said citizens should be allowed to own javelin missiles. This guy is clearly just trying to be edgy to promote his show.

Malcrasternus posted...

Why is blaming an object with hundreds of laws and regulations on it already the solution here?

"Hundreds", lmfao. Try like a handful.

Malcrasternus posted...

Why is blaming an object with hundreds of laws and regulations on it already the solution here? People are bypassing or outright ignoring these laws in favor of unleashing evil, yet we punish the law abiding. If you say it's people that can't be trusted, then you also admit that it's the people we need to focus on.

There are thousands of instances of self defense in this country that far and above outweigh these acts of evil.

You could just join the rest of the civilised world and realise that you don't need guns to be readily available to every nutcase in the country.

undefined posted...

Video games didnt cause this, but we cant dismiss the possibility they may factor into this. Not as a cause, but as a tool the shooter used. For instance, the 9/11 highjackers used Microsoft Flight Simulator to become familiar with piloting aircrafts. Its possible the shooter here was using video games to become familiar with the weapons he wanted to use. Thats just my wild speculation, but its something that should be investigated.

Ruvan22 posted...

Which video game has the same level of detail in teaching loading, aiming, and firing a weapon as Flight Simulator had in teaching the 9/11 pilots how to fly? Remember they attended actual flight schools as well..

@BeyondWalls - not sure if you missed this, which video games train you in handling and firing guns to the level that flight simulator does?

Zodd3224 posted...

This is why the elderly have no business running this country. They are so out of tune with how today's world actually works.

This.

I'm in elder care, and the number of wealthy old Republicans who haven't got a fucking clue how the world is now is not insignificant. And I'm in California, so imagine how it is in red states filled to the brim with chuds.

damn kids and their videogames causing them to kill people...

undefined posted...

There's a few hundred laws and regulations on firearms across state and federal levels. And firearm offenses usually end up with the person losing the right, jail time, or getting religious(hole-y) by law enforcement.

I do believe in more consistent federal guidelines, but I still firmly stand by promoting and funding mental health and access to therapy would do magnitudes more. Mass shootings are terrible but 2/3 of all gun deaths combined are suicides. And I'd put good money into the idea that this kid that shared pictures of animal abuse, fought kids in school, threatened their lives, and would cut up his own face because it looked cool to him would have benefitted from someone listening to him about his demons.

Ruvan22 posted...

I agree that suicides and accidental deaths are just as important (or more so given they are a higher percentage of overall death) but I'm not sure how effective mental health availability will be in reducing the former. Or rather, I don't see how what you describing (someone to listen) would significantly reduce suicides more than limitations on handguns (the most frequently used). There's a statistic that women are more likely to attempt suicide while men are more likely to be successful in completing it - one of the reasons for the latter is that men tend to use more lethal means (guns, cars) but are also more impulsive in the decision to do so. How do you see expanded mental health significantly decreasing this?

@Malcrasternus You might have missed this - curious about your logic here?

So they can say video games are to blame, but somehow guns are not to blame?

"Cyber gaming" is a term I've never heard and it sounds like something a politician from the 80s would say. In a movie.

Ruvan22 posted...

@Malcrasternus You might have missed this - curious about your logic here?

I did miss it, sorry.

My thought process is purely anecdotal, as I've dealt with many suicidal friends in life, with an unfortunate amount carrying through with the attempts. The most common factors were the traumas and issues that caused them to feel suicidal were there for years, through abuse, poor upbringing, absent family structures, trauma, and the general jist to deal with it was to just suck it up and ignore it. So to me the slow cooking of bad circumstances with no outlet or trained, effective help was a driving factor in some of their choices that led to their deaths/incarcerations.

Again, that's purely from my own experiences, so I can't speak for the rest of the country, but for me and the guys I knew in those situations, no one listened. No one wanted to listen. So we all just bottled shit up until, unfortunately for some of us, something snapped, and all that hate, all that emotion just. . . exploded.

Malcrasternus posted...

I did miss it, sorry.

My thought process is purely anecdotal, as I've dealt with many suicidal friends in life, with an unfortunate amount carrying through with the attempts. The most common factors were the traumas and issues that caused them to feel suicidal were there for years, through abuse, poor upbringing, absent family structures, trauma, and the general jist to deal with it was to just suck it up and ignore it. So to me the slow cooking of bad circumstances with no outlet or trained, effective help was a driving factor in some of their choices that led to their deaths/incarcerations.

Again, that's purely from my own experiences, so I can't speak for the rest of the country, but for me and the guys I knew in those situations, no one listened. No one wanted to listen. So we all just bottled shit up until, unfortunately for some of us, something snapped, and all that hate, all that emotion just. . . exploded.

That is a very detailed and elaborate description of the risk of suicidality, I completely agree that "having someone listen" counts for a lot, regardless of gender, race, etc

My post (or at least main question) was why you believed that better access to mental health services would do more to reduce deaths by guns than improved regulation of guns:
"I do believe in more consistent federal guidelines, but I still firmly stand by promoting and funding mental health and access to therapy would do magnitudes more."

From a logistical view, mental health also has a lot of laws and regulations around it (similar to the argument you made about guns) in places where it *is* available (this doesn't address the access part of the question). Sometimes the laws and regulations are adhered to, sometimes there aren't enough resources to do so (similar to enforcement of gun regulations).

Ruvan22 posted...

That is a very detailed and elaborate description of the risk of suicidality, I completely agree that "having someone listen" counts for a lot, regardless of gender, race, etc

My post (or at least main question) was why you believed that better access to mental health services would do more to reduce deaths by guns than improved regulation of guns:
"I do believe in more consistent federal guidelines, but I still firmly stand by promoting and funding mental health and access to therapy would do magnitudes more."

From a logistical view, mental health also has a lot of laws and regulations around it (similar to the argument you made about guns) in places where it *is* available (this doesn't address the access part of the question). Sometimes the laws and regulations are adhered to, sometimes there aren't enough resources to do so (similar to enforcement of gun regulations).

@Malcrasternus

It's just my personal opinion is all. All I have is anecdotal experience to go off of. If statistics show otherwise then so be it, but gun restrictions/bans at this point just feel like it'll be a wish granted on a monkey's paw.

Malcrasternus posted...

It's just my personal opinion is all. All I have is anecdotal experience to go off of. If statistics show otherwise then so be it, but gun restrictions/bans at this point just feel like it'll be a wish granted on a monkey's paw.

@Malcrasternus

Ahh gotcha RE the basis of your argument. When you say "wish granted on a monkey's paw", what do you mean? Sorry haven't heard the phrase before!