Current Events > Reminder that no, COVID isn't fucking endemic.

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See, here's the thing people who cite 'mental health' as a defense for caring fuck all about Covid prevention never seem to grasp: my mental health - which continues to be assaulted by self-absorbed individuals intent on prolonging the pandemic, which in turn hamstrings economic recovery in the long run and further diminishes my hope for the future - is no less valuable than your mental health.

So you are, at best, playing for a tie when you cite that. You will never win the argument with it.

I'm speaking for myself, as I had to work through the entirety of Covid, AND had the "honor" of losing both my parents to Covid 22 days apart back in June 2020.

I'm sorry for that.

If he mentioned extenuating circumstances in the post I'd have included them, I responded to the information provided.

I feel he was basing his opinion not on personal experience, but just the general idea that everyone's experience isn't exactly the same, so saying something like "just stay the fuck home" is as short-sighted as people that are saying "we're all gonna die at some point, I'm going to live my life"

• Wash his hands
• Wear a mask
• Stand 2 feet away from other people
• Not lick ice cream in the grocery store (almost used a phrase that's apparently derogatory to mentally handicapped)

Alright, fair. I'm on edge today.

Apologies to those in this topic.

The biggest problem is all the people that are/were saying "Fuck it, I don't care. Not my problem."

Back at the start no one was saying you had to stay locked up in your homes 24/7. You could have still went outside, gone for walks, etc. All people asked was to limit exposure to people as much as they could to prevent the likelyhood of it spreading.

But people were like "Nah, fuck that. Imma party or go to the beach, do this, do that and y'all can't stop me lol."

And yeah, some people didn't have the luxury of working from home, schools were pretty much exclusively online. The government should have stepped in and helped people get through it, but they didn't because most of them were still saying it was fake and shit. What they did give was piss poor in comparison to what some people make.

At the end of the day, no one wanted to compromise. Everyone did what they wanted to do with no worry to themselves or others.

We just better hope a worse virus doesn't pop up. As terrible as we handled this, we'd be devastated with something worse.

Yeah. The people who wanted to do everything they wanted with no compromise would say stuff to justify their end that wasn't even the argument. Like "They expect us to just sit inside all day and do nothing". No, you just looked for something said you could take too literal so you could justify not doing anything to help stop the spread. I never stopped walking my dog or going to immediate family to hang out. No one judged me, because everyone was more reasonable than their argument tried to make them out to be. They just need that extreme to make the opposition, so they can feel like the reasonable ones and still get to not help their country.

How is it meant to go away at this point? Look at New Zealand. They hard locked down for nearly 2 years with no cases, opened up and bam the cases spike when people were finally allowed to come over to visit families

If every country turned into an isolated jail(good luck convincing some countries to take it seriously) and everyone in those countries parked their asses for months til cases dropped to zero, it goes away. That's actually what my delusional ass was hoping for in early 2020 but it didn't take long to realise that's never happening, world peace has a higher chance of happening

It's never going away at this point. We can't do anything about it now.

It's never going away at this point. We can't do anything about it now.

There is actually a LOT we could be doing and the goal doesn't have to be eradication.

For some reason, some of you think it's either full blown Shanghai style lock downs or open season for all--nothing in between.

There is actually a LOT we could be doing and the goal doesn't have to be eradication.

For some reason, some of you think it's either full blown Shanghai style lock downs or open season for all--nothing in between.

Other things didn't help either.

Like the people parroting about herd immunity every time a new topic was made talking about the new infections/deaths. Over 2 years later and it still hasn't happened.

Or people straight up saying things like "Oh you just need a stronger immune system."

Or when we finally got a vaccine people didn't/don't trust it because of things like "oh, it rewrites your DNA!!!!" or "it has magnets!!!!" or "it's the mark of the devil!!!" Or people talking about the effects the vaccine could have. While also ignoring what Covid and Long Covid can do to you.

Not to mention all the misinformation and lies going around, though there was a bit of that happening on both sides. I can't believe I'm saying both sides but this is one of the instances where it is true.

Let me rephrase, there's nothing anyone is willing to do. Those that may be willing to do what is necessary can't because they have to work or need access to essentials. And Essential Workers have no say either way unless they quit, which could make a bad situation worse.

I know part of the problem is that I have kids and I also actually have a social life. Much of CE doesn't, so this doesn't impact a lot of you at all.

If I had kids, I would have taken them out of school and they would be home schooled. But I recognize I would be socially stunting them, ruining their childhood, and ultimately making them unprepared for adulthood. I see my neighborhood kids who are losing school days for X,Y, and Z reasons influenced by the pandemic and it's heartbreaking. Their parents aren't covering to make up for their lost education and they're falling behind. How are they going to support themselves in the future?

I still mask up and socially distance, and stay at home when I can, but I recognize the demand to "stay at home" is very, very difficult for most people. I'm sure we've all heard of the Myers-Briggs personality tests, but Extroverts CRAVE human interaction, it's not easy for them sit at home and away from people the way people like us do on this message board. This is where the major damage to their "mental health" is coming from. And this is not including the need to continue their life to keep the lights on and the general hopelessness people feel about the new normal, how it won't end.

It's not going away, how is that not endemic?

Thank you. And that is all I am saying is that people need to think about this from multiple angles. And yes, I am an extrovert.

BTW, I do still wear my mask. It has a Triforce on it :)

I just want to stop being blasted here because I think it isn't simple

And the funny thing is, I rarely ever see people making similar arguments as here in the real world. This despite almost everyone I know being liberal.

What scientific institutions and organizations are saying COVID-19 is endemic, TC?

All good.

But you get what I'm saying, right? The idea of "If everyone just stayed home for 6 months, this would've been over by now" is just one that would have been impossible to achieve, for the simplest of reasons.

If everyone stayed home, who's picking up my garbage? How am I getting groceries? Who's fixing the power should a storm take out an electrical pole?

Blanket statements like those are not real solutions, they're just buzz phrases people blurt out when they argue from a place of passion, and not a place of logic.

You get blasted here because you are blatantly smug about your "fuck it" mentality and it's extremely unbecoming. You also drop passive agressive jabs at people for still (correctly) wanting NPIs in place by implying they are antisocial shut-ins and misrepresenting their arguments as if people are calling for everyone to be sealed shut in their homes forever.

Ok so this is disingenuous. A number of countries did achieve complete elimination for long periods of time during the pandemic. Restricting all movements outside of essential activity was sufficient to slow the outbreak to the point of elimination. If the world had all aimed for an elimination strategy at the beginning, the virus would probably have gone extinct.

Regardless, none of this talk about restrictions, masking, or the death toll have any bearing on whether the virus is endemic. I feel like TC has made a topic with one statement (It's not endemic) while actually wanting to talk about something very different (we should have more covid mitigation.)

I had idiot coworkers that thought we should have been back to work on the strip valeting cars in April.of 2020

it's been 2 years, time to let it go.

It's not going anywhere at this point no matter how hard we try lol

If the goal of what they were doing was to eliminate covid, it might be effective.

it's been 2 years, time to let it go. It's not going anywhere at this point no matter how hard we try lol

How come Americans came to hate science so much? Im all for freedom of religion but dont spread misinformation about science if youre Christian

it's been 2 years, time to let it go. It's not going anywhere at this point no matter how hard we try lol

Imagine saying "Suck it up, lefties, this highly contagious, deadly, and debilitating disease is never going away" and thinking it's a win