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meestermj
05/03/22 7:50:49 PM
#101:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I do wonder if there is a way to make those realistic animals more expressive without it looking silly.
I thought they did a rather good job in the live action Lady & The Tramp from a couple years ago.

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Punished_Blinx
05/03/22 7:52:21 PM
#102:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
TJG made it look fine.

It got around it by not needing to do it anywhere near as much as TLK did. Which has already been explained to you several times.

I thought you were going to stop doubling down?

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KogaSteelfang
05/03/22 7:52:28 PM
#103:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
What you're doing is re-explaining yourself to what you mean exactly but you seem to almost not what to admit that's what you're doing.
Uh, yeah, I'm re-explaining. That's obvious, because you just seem to really not get what's actually being said.

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Veggeta_MAX
05/03/22 7:54:29 PM
#104:


Punished_Blinx posted...
It got around it by not needing to do it anywhere near as much as TLK did. Which has already been explained to you several times.

I thought you were going to stop doubling down?
It's your fault you're understanding it as me doubling down.

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Veggeta_MAX
05/03/22 7:55:14 PM
#105:


KogaSteelfang posted...
Uh, yeah, I'm re-explaining. That's obvious, because you just seem to really not get what's actually being said.
Or maybe because you didn't initially explain it well? Naw it couldn't be that. You're too smart to do something like that.

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meestermj
05/03/22 7:56:08 PM
#106:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's your fault you're understanding it as me doubling down.
So it's his fault for not understanding you?

Veggeta_MAX posted...
Or maybe because you didn't initially explain it well? Naw it couldn't be that. You're too smart to do something like that.
So it's his fault you didn't understand him?

Hmmmmmmmmm

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Veggeta_MAX
05/03/22 7:57:33 PM
#107:


meestermj posted...
So it's his fault for not understanding you?

So it's his fault you didn't understand him?

Hmmmmmmmmm
It could be either or but I some people are unwilling to admit it.

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PiOverlord
05/03/22 8:00:12 PM
#108:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I do wonder if there is a way to make those realistic animals more expressive without it looking silly. The Lion King seemed almost too obsessed with being realistic regarding everything. I don't know how anyone could have liked how I Can't Wait to be King and Be Prepared ended up.

I do agree making CGI versions of the cartoon is pointless. The original is already a gorgeous animated movie that holds up well.

I think it's just one of those movies that just doesn't lend itself well to a remake tbh. The stage show being a good adaptation is about as good as it can possibly get.

It's just a weird remake in general. People always point to Avatar as a huge movie that disappeared in the public conversation. TLK 2019 is way worse in that regard. The original still feels more relevant.
I saw a good fix of one of the scenes that changed only the level of expression. I'll have to post it later

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Punished_Blinx
05/03/22 8:06:32 PM
#109:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's your fault you're understanding it as me doubling down.

You do realize I already covered it in my very first response to you yeah? Which was my first post in this topic?

It's a lower key movie which made it easier to translate I think. The biggest musical number is 'I Want to Be Like You' right? Which funnily enough I think was also the weakest point of that remake. Also helps that there's still a human lead.

What worked for TJB didn't work for TLK IMO. So the only reason to keep bringing it up is to be a nuisance troll. If it's a misunderstanding you should be fine to let it go by now.

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MarshallStack
05/03/22 8:07:25 PM
#110:


this movie is candyass candyassery tc needs to stop

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Veggeta_MAX
05/03/22 8:12:51 PM
#111:


Punished_Blinx posted...
You do realize I already covered it in my very first response to you yeah? Which was my first post in this topic?

What worked for TJB didn't work for TLK IMO. So the only reason to keep bringing it up is to be a nuisance troll. If it's a misunderstanding you should be fine to let it go by now.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying but I have no shame in re-explaining myself and it doesn't make me feel holy or better than you that I have to do this. Even if I think I explained it perfectly and you still didn't understand, I still think nothing of it and I don't look down on you for not understanding.

Anyway, your post didn't say or even imply that initially. I'm sure YOU think you did and everyone who doesn't are just idiots or trolls. I know, you having to re-explaining what you mean it such a drag.

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PiOverlord
05/03/22 8:16:03 PM
#112:


MarshallStack posted...
this movie is candyass candyassery tc needs to stop
I didn't defend the quality of the movie. Please read before posting.

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DrizztLink
05/03/22 8:37:22 PM
#113:


Ok, so now that you guys wasted another couple hours are you still deadset on chugging this Diet UR shit?

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Unsuprised_Pika
05/03/22 8:43:44 PM
#114:


Doe posted...
Personally I think everyone calling him Scar because he got beat up by his big brother makes him a more sympathetic character than he should be given his fascist leanings

Villians always being one dimensional like that is both uninteresting and culturally undesirable. Do we want our media to be required to reinforce simplistic black and white notions of good and evil?

Scar isn't really the best example of a deep villian or anything but we shouldn't pretend that evil and fascism arise solely because every person involved is doing what they do simply because they were born evil or decided to be that way on a whim.

Fascist characters can have sympathetic elements handled in tasteful ways. Pretending they are all inhuman only blinds us to ways we can combat fascism in the first place.

Also I don't think losing a coup attempt is a particularly sympathetic traits unless the movie showed Scar as genuinely having good ideas for how to rule, stronger morals etc.

Which...yeah the movie clearly shows his Jealously, arrogance, pettiness and Ineptness at ruling. Scar had very little sympathetic about him. Growing up in a Brother's shadow is essentially the only thing about him that could elicit sympathy

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