Current Events > "Both Sides" isn't even an accurate description.

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It's really just two varieties of one side.

How the fuck does that make sense when you've got one side openly attacking the LGBTQ community?

We're really gonna thread the needle with this version of the argument

calling people facist/nazis/sjws/groomers/

are also not accurate descriptions

its just one of those i dont like this person

so im gonna use this word because they dont agree with me

armandro posted...

calling people facist/nazis/sjws/groomers/

are also not accurate descriptions

its just one of those i dont like this person

so im gonna use this word because they dont agree with me

So like, since 2015 we've seen confederates and nazis on the side of the Trump voters. Prolific examples outside the weird MAGA rallies are Charlottesville, 1/6, and the dumb truck convoys.

At this point I don't really care to differentiate a MAGA from a Nazi and that's their own fault.

armandro posted...

calling people facist/nazis/sjws/groomers/

are also not accurate descriptions

its just one of those i dont like this person

so im gonna use this word because they dont agree with me

My local temple was covered in swastikas by Proud Boys. But, yeah, the only difference between us is taxes...

When a village in the Middle East gets hit with a drone strike, do you think they care if it was a Republican or Democrat sitting in office?

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AablMind posted...

When a village in the Middle East gets hit with a drone strike, do you think they care if it was a Republican or Democrat sitting in office?

No, but it's worth noting that the Democratic administration has greatly reduced the number of drone strikes it performs in comparison to its Republican predecessor.
https://theweek.com/foreign-policy/1007579/biden-nearly-ended-the-drone-war-and-nobody-noticed

Former President Donald Trump, naturally, was even worse. At the start of his presidency, he rolled back even the modest protections for civilians Obama had implemented. Both air strikes (from drones and normal planes) and civilian casualties increased dramatically in 2017. To be fair, strikes were scaled back in the following years, but the damage was done. According to Airwars, during Trump's term American air and artillery strikes in Iraq and Syria created more than twice the number of casualties compared to Obama's second term (more than 10,000 vs. about 5,000). In Somalia, casualties increased roughly eight-fold.
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Biden seems to have internalized some of these lessons. Immediately after taking office, he set up a new system requiring White House approval for any strikes outside of active war zones (and later published Trump's loose rules that enabled so many civilian massacres). Now that the occupation of Afghanistan is over, that requirement applies almost everywhere, and it appears Biden is extremely reluctant to grant approval. Where Trump oversaw more than 1,600 air and artillery strikes in Iraq and Syria during his first 11 months in office, Airwars reports just four during Biden's term so far. Strikes in Somalia fell from roughly 75 last year to fewer than 10 this year, with no civilian casualties. And in Yemen, the annual total dropped from about 18 to maybe four, with fewer than 10 casualties of any kind. (Precise figures are unclear because some strikes are classified.)

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armandro posted...

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Hey quick question does the force of gravity increase in your vicinity because I've never witnessed something so fucking dense in my life.

ZMythos posted...

Hey quick question does the force of gravity increase in your vicinity because I've never witnessed something so fucking dense in my life.

I'm not sure.

How do I measure and compare levels?

If anyone thinks any politician would give one fuck about them on a personal level outside of stealing tax money to line their own pockets, they're fucking stupid and probably should never be allowed into society for being so stupid.

Someone could be dying infront of literally any politician, and they'd somehow try to charge taxes and make the death into some grand politically motivated cause, and watch the life leave the dying person's eyes. 100%

Entire government needs to be ripped down and started over. Legally anyone over the age of 35 and a citizen qualifies to become presidential material. When is the last time any normal person has retained this power? Not some PoS career politician

Usually yes.

armandro posted...

I'm not sure.

How do I measure and compare levels?

Just say what it would take, economically speaking, to be a Nazi and it'll all come out in the wash.

FaytlessHearts posted...

If anyone thinks any politician would give one fuck about them on a personal level outside of stealing tax money to line their own pockets, they're fucking stupid and probably should never be allowed into society for being so stupid.

Someone could be dying infront of literally any politician, and they'd somehow try to charge taxes and make the death into some grand politically motivated cause, and watch the life leave the dying person's eyes. 100%

Is anyone here a doctor cause I just cut myself on all this edge.

ANort175 posted...

Is anyone here a doctor cause I just cut myself on all this edge.

I don't understand how this is edge and isn't fact. Right side is disgusting, and the left is just as horrible. It's embarrassing.

damn people are really responding to this obvious troll topic huh

FaytlessHearts posted...

Legally anyone over the age of 35 and a citizen qualifies to become presidential material. When is the last time any normal person has retained this power? Not some PoS career politician

We are less than two years removed from a non-career politician being president. It didn't go well.

Antifar posted...

We are less than two years removed from a non-career politician being president. It didn't go well.

I had no idea he was a standard everyday normal citizen that isn't a millionaire with money to grease the elbows of other said career politicians. Dang. Learn something new every day.

Both sides people only ever show up to say "but the left" when conservatives are being criticized, never the other way around. So we all know it's bullshit anyway

TheGoldenEel posted...

damn people are really responding to this obvious troll topic huh

damn u really posting on ce

Im sure corporations and the super wealthy love the public using more of their energy to go after each other and spew venom at each other while in the meantime they cause catastrophic systemic damage that affects the average person negatively far more significantly than the complaints both sides have against the average person of the other side. We miss the forest for the trees.

armandro posted...

damn u really posting on ce

Lol, ur posting on a dying website.

Will_VIIII posted...

So like, since 2015 we've seen confederates and nazis on the side of the Trump voters. Prolific examples outside the weird MAGA rallies are Charlottesville, 1/6, and the dumb truck convoys.

At this point I don't really care to differentiate a MAGA from a Nazi and that's their own fault.

This just means you are ignorant and uneducated about history.
The Nazis weren't white supremacists, they were supremacists. They thought the "Aryans" were the master race and put more white people to death in the concentration camps then anyone else. Just because someone calls themself a Nazi or you call them one doesn't actually make them one. The vast majority of people you label as Nazis would either be killed off, enslaved, or be second class citizens under the actual Nazis. Very few would fit their ideal and be a full member of their "perfect" society.

And before you start whining or going off on some tangent, no I am not defending nazis or white supremacists or anyone else. People/groups can be terrible all on their own without needing to be Nazis or called such. But I know its much easier for people to just throw around buzzwords these days instead of having any actual discussion over anything.

Idk man I think if people wave around Swastikas we can call them Nazis regardless of the logical consistency of their beliefs. It was not an ideology known for its commitment to rationality.

That's because people are stupid and ignorant of history but would completely shit their pants if they lived under an actual Nazi regime. But they don't, so they like to play pretend.

Another part of it though is that the Nazis wanted world domination. None of these groups have really said anything seriously about invading most other countries on earth and subjugating them. Nor do they want to exterminate everyone else. Usually it ranges from being second class citizens or some attempt to deport everyone not white, but I haven't seen any of those groups actually come out publically and advocate for rounding up 100 million+ people and just straight up murdering them like the Nazis did.

Wow not the hill I'd die on, christ.

y'all are always complaining about the right yet you're not gonna do anything about it

The Nazis also did not publicly state their intention to perform genocide.

JimmyFraska posted...

y'all are always complaining about the right yet you're not gonna do anything about it

What does this even mean?

Will_VIIII posted...

What does this even mean?

which part are you having trouble with

JimmyFraska posted...

which part are you having trouble with

Like, I vote against the right. So... that's doing something about it

Will_VIIII posted...

Like, I vote against the right. So... that's doing something about it

yeah been working pretty good so far hasnt it

Will_VIIII posted...

Like, I vote against the right. So... that's doing something about it

You voted against a far- right, highly authoritarian party.

But in the end, the administration you backed is still on the authoritarian right.

To be fair, I backed it too.

JimmyFraska posted...

yeah been working pretty good so far hasnt it

Yeah it has given how the economy has improved along with the response to the pandemic

Gamerguymass posted...

Another part of it though is that the Nazis wanted world domination.

Video game alt histories where the Nazis won WW2 aren't real. The Nazis did not have world domination goals at least not at any point during the 30s and 40s and neither do Neo Nazis today.

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The Squad just voted with the four worst Republicans to protect pro-Putin Russian oligarchs

https://thehill.com/news/house/3469582-four-republicans-four-democrats-vote-no-on-bill-urging-biden-to-confiscate-assets-from-sanctioned-oligarchs/

VitalGetPrank posted...

The Squad just voted with the four worst Republicans to protect pro-Putin Russian oligarchs

https://thehill.com/news/house/3469582-four-republicans-four-democrats-vote-no-on-bill-urging-biden-to-confiscate-assets-from-sanctioned-oligarchs/

On a non-binding symbolic gesture?

This topic definitely took a turn

Will_VIIII posted...

Yeah it has given how the economy has improved along with the response to the pandemic

can I get a lmao in the chat

JimmyFraska posted...

can I get a lmao in the chat

Right, you don't understand numbers, the scientific method, or the passage of time.

Will_VIIII posted...

Right, you don't understand numbers, the scientific method, or the passage of time.

I guess you're right and that's why Democrats will win all the upcoming elections xD

9/10 when someone says "both sides" they really mean both parties.

JimmyFraska posted...

I guess you're right and that's why Democrats will win all the upcoming elections xD

I didn't say that they would, just that those voting Republican don't have a general understanding of the situation.

Which given that things they say and do, is accurate.