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saspa
04/23/22 10:20:25 AM
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I was bracing myself for the inhumans of the mcu movies, but it certainly wasn't that (nothing is, not even DC's garbage)

But lol they put in an awkward sex scene with the ikaris and gemma chan? In a pg disney marvel movie? They haven't done sex scenes since 2008's Iron man when Marvel hadn't even been bought by Disney yet. Disney has been so afraid of showing any deeper act of physical intimacy that this is shocking, no wonder it has a rotten score on RT xp. How odd that they gave Chloe Zhao free reign while reeling in/firing others like edgar wright or james gunn for a time.

I love how their suits make them power rangers

I don't know why people dislike the movie or why it has such a low rating, it's not offensively bad or anything. It's definitely not the *shudder* Inhumans of the mcu movies. It does have the same problem of trying to introduce comic characters that "have been there all along" (difficult to translate characters at that) but still done at least better. Captain Marvel was able to get away with it by both setting it in the past but also putting her on a bus for a while and the fact that it's just 1 person compared to an entire power rangers team.

It's still a messy movie but eh.

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ZeroV2
04/23/22 10:21:42 AM
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It was just forgettable. Doubt these dudes will have any impact on mcu moving forward

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04/23/22 10:22:21 AM
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It gets hate because its not your traditional MCU movie and gets nit picked from comic book nerds. I thought it was a good movie overall and the sex scene was pretty cool of Disney to allow.

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SSJKirby
04/23/22 10:23:25 AM
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It's just boring as hell

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saspa
04/23/22 10:32:14 AM
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Phatso's suggestion to mind meld and become a unimind was funny. Besides contributing to the power rangers vibe, it reminded me of something from DC I once saw in Young Justice, the new gods all merged into each other power rangers style and transformed into 1 super new god with all their powers combined

And they even have their own evil superman who flies and shoots lasers just like whatever those DC movies are doing. Hell they even name dropped superman... So superman exists in that world. So much of this movie makes me think it was clearly DC inspired. The director they chose should be more suited to DC, not Marvel

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saspa
04/23/22 11:09:28 AM
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PrideOfLion posted...
It's not goofy enough for comic book movie fans to like and it's not deep enough for cinephiles to enjoy. It basically exists in this weird spot where it doesn't do anything amazing

I thought it was goofy, but the wrong kind of goofy. The aforementioned cringey sex scene between two wooden characters with no romantic chemistry felt like I was watching a different movie and was definitely goofy.

- The whole hilariously heavy handed "man look at these humans killing each other smh so much war" was another lol moment for all the wrong reasons.

- The pixie redhead stabbing gemma chan and them afterwards being like "ah what the heck I forgive you, now you get to be a real boy!"

And some other scenes here and there. It just comes across super goofy the way the movie was doing it.

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MixedRaceBaby
04/23/22 11:12:46 AM
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Gemma Chan for 2 hours?

10/10

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ssk9716757
04/23/22 11:13:14 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
Gemma Chan for 2 hours?

10/10

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saspa
04/23/22 3:25:06 PM
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Why wouldn't a celestial create an eternal that has all the powers instead of splitting them into seven robots with 1 or 2 powers each. It would be like an rpg being lame and forcing you to choose only one class instead of being all the classes all at once.

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lilORANG
04/23/22 3:42:14 PM
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Dat sex scene made me feel better about the sex I give. At least I know to move during sex.

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Guerrilla Soldier
04/23/22 3:55:50 PM
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i don't remember a single character in that movie. or what they looked like. or what their purpose was.

why was i supposed to care? i'm not sure. why would i care? still not really sure.

it was definitely a "this needs to exist to keep the plot rolling" instead of a "we want to make a good story and have things happen as a result of this!" like it was built backwards or something. too technical and blah.

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Tom_Joad
04/23/22 7:33:50 PM
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The world is literally ending in the movie, with a Celestial hatching... and nobody gave a D*** about it?

Dr. Strange... Sha, like what? You think I live on this planet?
The X-Men... meh, what's the big deal?
Thor... by Grepthar's hammer, you shall be avenged!
Hulk... no want smash now.

I call shenanigans.

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Stalolin
04/23/22 7:39:27 PM
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I really liked it.

Tom_Joad posted...
The world is literally ending in the movie, with a Celestial hatching... and nobody gave a D*** about it?

Dr. Strange... Sha, like what? You think I live on this planet?
The X-Men... meh, what's the big deal?
Thor... by Grepthar's hammer, you shall be avenged!
Hulk... no want smash now.

I call shenanigans.

you have to accept that this is not their fight does a lot of heavy lifting in any kind of comic/superhero medium. You just have to lmao.


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Rharyx211
04/24/22 3:11:19 PM
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Yeah, people overhyped the hate. It's a good movie, just not as MCU-y as other MCU movies.

I liked it.

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 7:37:24 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
The world is literally ending in the movie, with a Celestial hatching... and nobody gave a D*** about it?
It's not like anyone else knew about it.

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NonDairyMiltank
04/24/22 7:55:26 PM
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barely anyone outside of comic geeks knew who the fuck the Eternals were or cared lol

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Unsuprised_Pika
04/24/22 8:03:26 PM
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Stalolin posted...
I really liked it.

you have to accept that this is not their fight does a lot of heavy lifting in any kind of comic/superhero medium. You just have to lmao.

To be fair the movie also can easily overlap with other heroes shit and Thor was off world
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A_Good_Boy
04/24/22 8:09:19 PM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
barely anyone outside of comic geeks knew who the fuck the Eternals were or cared lol
That's like almost every single MCU film.

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Tom_Joad
04/24/22 8:34:12 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
It's not like anyone else knew about it.

Nobody knew about it when it was breaking out of the earth's crust?!?

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 8:35:26 PM
#21:


Tom_Joad posted...
Nobody knew about it when it was breaking out of the earth's crust?!?
1) It was in the middle of nowhere.

2) They solved it immediately.

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A_Good_Boy
04/24/22 8:41:01 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
Nobody knew about it when it was breaking out of the earth's crust?!?
How much time would the Avengers even have to respond to that? They're off all over the world doing their own thing and the Eternals resolved the issue in all of 15 minutes.

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Tom_Joad
04/24/22 8:59:01 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
How much time would the Avengers even have to respond to that? They're off all over the world doing their own thing and the Eternals resolved the issue in all of 15 minutes.

Earthquake sensors would have been going off non-stop prior to the climax of the movie.

The problem is that the writers wrote a script climax which forced the heroes of the MCU to behave in a manner inconsistent with their previously shown behavior in prior movies.

Like the Chitauri invasion in the first Avengers movie, or Thanos. World-ending threats bring out the Avengers. Yet, in this movie, the writers just expected the audience to disregard that.

To say, "Sure, we've seen the Avengers come out to save the world in every Avengers movie that ever came out. But yeah, we *totally* understand that they'd wouldn't do so for this world-ending threat for... reasons."

Hell, this doesn't just apply to the heroes, but for all heads of state as well as SHIELD. You'd expect that if a Celestial is breaking out of the Earth itself, seismographs would be recording chart-busting earthquakes world-wide. So the reaction of heads of state would be similar to other 'end-of-the-world' movies like Armageddon or Deep Impact. Especially if SHIELD says, "The Avengers aren't here to save us right now."

Sure, there'd be nothing much they could do to stop it, but a few scenes of advisors saying "This time the end of the world really is nigh... and we can't stop it"... would have done wonders to keep the movie plot believable.

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 9:05:30 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
Earthquake sensors would have been going off non-stop prior to the climax of the movie.
And earthquake sensors are supposed to reveal that the planet is an egg for a giant alien god?

Tom_Joad posted...
Sure, there'd be nothing much they could do to stop it, but a few scenes of advisors saying "This time the end of the world really is nigh... and we can't stop it"... would have done wonders to keep the movie plot believable.
That probably happened, they just didn't show it because it's not relevant. This isn't something you should have to be spoonfed.

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A_Good_Boy
04/24/22 9:11:37 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
Like the Chitauri invasion in the first Avengers movie, or Thanos. World-ending threats bring out the Avengers. Yet, in this movie, the writers just expected the audience to disregard that.

To say, "Sure, we've seen the Avengers come out to save the world in every Avengers movie that ever came out. But yeah, we *totally* understand that they'd wouldn't do so for this world-ending threat for... reasons."
When Thanos' boys attacked the planet in Infinity War the Avengers only managed to send 3 people after them up until they decided to go big and invade Wakanda. That seems to be about the best they can do at a moments notice, and that's with the attack happening in the Avenger's own backyard.

With the Eternal's thing, all they'd have to go off of is seismographs going crazy and I don't think the Avenger's just leap out of their seats whenever there's a seemingly ecological event happening. The Eternals resolved that event before anyone could figure out what was even happening.

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Rharyx211
04/24/22 9:14:20 PM
#26:


Tom_Joad posted...
Like the Chitauri invasion in the first Avengers movie, or Thanos. World-ending threats bring out the Avengers. Yet, in this movie, the writers just expected the audience to disregard that.
Because the Eternals resolved it in less than an hour. Even if they were trying to mobilize the Avengers off-screen (which would've included, what, Falcon and Ant-Man??) it wasn't an issue anymore by the time they would've gotten to it.

The movie is better by them treating it like as much of its own thing as they could, not mentioning the Avengers or things like that. In fact, the worst part of the movie is when they casually mention Thor or whoever randomly over dinner.

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Tom_Joad
04/24/22 9:38:23 PM
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The point is that you can't make a movie in the MCU that involves the end of the world. Not without a really good explanation as to why nobody else is getting involved.

Dr. Strange, for example, did face an end-of-the-world enemy. And the script-writers were smart enough to shift the battle *OUTSIDE* of our reality (for the most part). Which was a really well-done way to communicate to the audience that the rest of the MCU wouldn't know about danger. Further, with the timestone, Dr. Strange reversed time to remove all the damage caused from his battle with Dormammu.

That's how you write a story with world-shattering stakes that doesn't involve the rest of the MCU.

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Hell, with the earth's crust split at the end of the movie and with the infant Celestial's hand literally sticking out of the earth's atmosphere, a large portion of the earth's population should be dead in the MCU. Either from the earthquakes, from the shattered crust engulfing entire cities, or from the worldwide tsunamis destroying coastal cities for large parts of the globe.

The movie literally end human civilization on Earth as we know it... and it's treated as a "Eh, no biggie."

For Pete's sake, the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs didn't do as much damage to the earth as what was show in that movie.

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 10:00:12 PM
#28:


Tom_Joad posted...
The point is that you can't make a movie in the MCU that involves the end of the world. Not without a really good explanation as to why nobody else is getting involved.
The fact that the "end of the world" started and was prevented in about fifteen minutes is the really good explanation. The fact you don't want to accept it doesn't change that.

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A_Good_Boy
04/24/22 10:04:25 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The fact that the "end of the world" started and was prevented in about fifteen minutes is the really good explanation. The fact you don't want to accept it doesn't change that.
Even if you ignore the whole time aspect of this issue being a factor there's still no guarantee the Avengers would even get involved. Wanda took a whole town hostage for like 2 weeks and the rest of the Avengers were nowhere to be found.

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saspa
04/25/22 2:46:01 PM
#30:


It's also the first time I thought "damn that cgi is pretty glaringly obvious" in a marvel movie with the speedster fighting ikaris, no wonder they killed off the speedster previously in the mcu. Looked a little like the smith fight scene from matrix reloaded a whopping 20 years ago. They ever so slightly dropped the ball there effects wise but no biggie

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Makeveli_lives
04/25/22 2:49:51 PM
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Visuals and action were both great but there was too much going on to give a damn about any of it. Should've been 6 people max with the others introduced in the various shows that came after. One in Loki as a variant, one as a traveller in egypt for moon knight, etc.

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saspa
04/25/22 2:52:39 PM
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Also I thought they were going to reveal Jon Snow's family history as him being Hydra or something... but instead it's some kinda sword? I don't even know

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masterpug53
04/25/22 2:56:25 PM
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It was okay; good enough to keep my interest to the end, but pretty forgettable afterwards. was pretty hilarious that the best character in the movie and his pet human (arguably the 2nd-best character in the movie) just nope'd out of the final conflict.

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saspa
04/25/22 3:14:53 PM
#34:


I already knew Angelina Jolie was in this but I was surprised to see Salma Hayek in it too. This is the movie where they really went for it. I mean Harry Styles as some brother of Thanos? This movie really shows they're going full comic book in the MCU or trying to, for better or worse.

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04/25/22 3:24:02 PM
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It's a mediocre melodrama with no plot coherence to any of the five plots they tried to stitch together.

Not one thing objectively good about it, most things elicit no reaction or viewer investment. If this were an early Marvel movie it would damage the brand unless it were released in close proximity to two better ones.

Even by Marvel standards, the story, action, acting and characters were all below par.

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saspa
04/25/22 3:29:25 PM
#36:


masterpug53 posted...
It was okay; good enough to keep my interest to the end, but pretty forgettable afterwards. was pretty hilarious that the best character in the movie and his pet human (arguably the 2nd-best character in the movie) just nope'd out of the final conflict.

Lol pet human that's a morbid way of thinking.

Honestly yeah I really liked kumail. I've seen a little of the guy here and there and liked his movie the big sick with zoe kazan. And he definitely won me over in this movie pretty quickly.

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The Eko
04/25/22 4:02:31 PM
#37:


saspa posted...
Lol pet human that's a morbid way of thinking.

Honestly yeah I really liked kumail. I've seen a little of the guy here and there and liked his movie the big sick with zoe kazan. And he definitely won me over in this movie pretty quickly.
If you like Kumail Nanjiani then I would recommend STUBER, starring him and Dave Bautista. I checked it out since I like both of them and I found it surprisingly funny and enjoyable

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masterpug53
04/26/22 8:53:42 AM
#38:


saspa posted...
Lol pet human that's a morbid way of thinking.

Honestly yeah I really liked kumail. I've seen a little of the guy here and there and liked his movie the big sick with zoe kazan. And he definitely won me over in this movie pretty quickly.

Funnily enough, The Big Sick is the only movie prior to Eternals I saw Kumail in, and I quite liked it as well. But I'd also seen some of his standup before and really liked that. I think it's fair to say that Kumail was the biggest motivator to get me to watch Eternals, and he didn't disappoint (except for, y'know, nope'ing out of the final battle).

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Kim_Seong-a
04/26/22 9:16:58 AM
#39:


Tom_Joad posted...
Nobody knew about it when it was breaking out of the earth's crust?!?

Imagine being a superhero. You're punching some smalltime crook on the noggin when you notice that the world is literally breaking into pieces, and then everything is fine 30 minutes later.

"Well I guess somebody else took care of it lol"

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masterpug53
04/26/22 9:22:52 AM
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Yeah, I do agree that one of the big issues hamstringing the MCU going forward is that it's getting less and less plausible to have these standalone cataclysmic events without other superheroes getting involved. Some throwaway one-liner about 'here's why we can't call the Avengers for help' may have cut it in Phase 2, but after Civil War, Infinity War / Endgame, No Way Home, and various other lesser instances of crossover, it's much harder to make excuses for keeping other big names out of a crisis on the scale of Tiamut bursting out of the Earth's crust.

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Tom_Joad
04/26/22 11:04:24 AM
#41:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Imagine being a superhero. You're punching some smalltime crook on the noggin when you notice that the world is literally breaking into pieces, and then everything is fine 30 minutes later.

"Well I guess somebody else took care of it lol"

No, if I was an Avengers-level superhero and saw/heard about this... I'd be contacting SHIELD the first moment I could.

Meaning the small-town crook would get lucky.

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When Superman gets wind of a planetary crisis, he doesn't assume 'someone else will get to it.'

Nor does he stick a thumb up his butt and wait, hoping the crisis passes.

So if Captain Marvel is around, she goes. If she isn't, the movie better say why. Same for superheroes like Dr. Strange or Thor.

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EvalAngell
04/26/22 11:06:51 AM
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Tom_Joad posted...
So if Captain Marvel is around, she goes. If she isn't, the movie better say so. Same for superheroes like Dr. Strange or Thor.

This is my biggest gripe with the MCU. When shit goes down, I want to know why other heroes aren't there and can't answer the call.

masterpug53 posted...
Yeah, I do agree that one of the big issues hamstringing the MCU going forward is that it's getting less and less plausible to have these standalone cataclysmic events without other superheroes getting involved. Some throwaway one-liner about 'here's why we can't call the Avengers for help' may have cut it in Phase 2, but after Civil War, Infinity War / Endgame, No Way Home, and various other lesser instances of crossover, it's much harder to make excuses for keeping other big names out of a crisis on the scale of Tiamut bursting out of the Earth's crust.

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pegusus123456
04/26/22 5:28:18 PM
#44:


EvalAngell posted...
This is my biggest gripe with the MCU. When shit goes down, I want to know why other heroes aren't there and can't answer the call.

pegusus123456 posted...
The fact that the "end of the world" started and was prevented in about fifteen minutes is the really good explanation. The fact you don't want to accept it doesn't change that.


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Tom_Joad
04/26/22 5:49:00 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...

The fact that the "end of the world" started and was prevented in about fifteen minutes is the really good explanation. The fact you don't want to accept it doesn't change that.

So... what you're saying is that, to you... when superheroes see world-ending threats appear, they are supposed to kick-back and relax for at least 15 minutes to see if the threat is resolved without them?

They aren't actually supposed to go and deal with it.


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pegusus123456
04/26/22 5:56:26 PM
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What I'm saying is that realizing the earthquake isn't natural, locating the epicenter of it, coordinating with one another, and getting to the middle of bumfuck nowhere isn't something that can be done in the timespan of an average CEman shit.

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A_Good_Boy
04/26/22 6:05:36 PM
#47:


Tom_Joad posted...
So... what you're saying is that, to you... when superheroes see world-ending threats appear, they are supposed to kick-back and relax for at least 15 minutes to see if the threat is resolved without them?

They aren't actually supposed to go and deal with it.
So the Avengers are supposed to do what, assemble and ride out every single time the earth shakes just in case the one time it does it's a celestial about to break out of the earth's crust?

And that fight was over in all of 30 minutes. Do you think they all just live suited up in their airplane ready for action? Cause even with advanced warning they could only manage to snag 3 dudes to fight Ebony Maw and that fight happened right outside of Strange's bedroom.

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Tom_Joad
04/26/22 6:10:25 PM
#48:


A_Good_Boy posted...
So the Avengers are supposed to do what, assemble and ride out every single time the earth shakes just in case the one time it does it's a celestial about to break out of the earth's crust?

And that fight was over in all of 30 minutes. Do you think they all just live suited up in their airplane ready for action? Cause even with advanced warning they could only manage to snag 3 dudes to fight Ebony Maw and that fight happened right outside of Strange's bedroom.

Ah, so you're saying that when the earth's crust is cracking open and a Celestial emerging... it's 'just' the earth shaking. Like any other earthquake.

That there's no way to tell. At all.

Yeah... no.

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And yes, if Dr. Strange, Wong (the new Sorcerer Supreme), Captain Marvel, or Thor is on earth... then yeah, they are supposed to go wherever there is a world-destroying event. Because if they don't, they won't have an earth to live on.

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It's just amazing how passive your view is. Even Arthur Dent (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)... a *NOBODY* acted more proactively than what you're expressing here. I mean, when he saw a bulldozer coming to tear down his house, he ran outside and laid down in front of it. He didn't wait. He didn't expect someone else to do something about it.

A literal *nobody*.


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pegusus123456
04/26/22 7:18:54 PM
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So what this topic has confirmed is that Tom_Joad doesn't understand the concept of linear time.

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Xethuminra
04/26/22 7:24:59 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
Do you think they all just live suited up in their airplane ready for action?
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