Current Events > Do you think Cal was justified in some of his behavior in Titanic (1997)?

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TULPAMANCER
04/20/22 11:37:54 PM
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The movie depicts him as a typical arrogant overbearing husband, but I mean come on, his fiancee was flaunting her infidelity in his face. It'd be hard not to get as violently angry as he did.




Eh?
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FelineCyborg
04/20/22 11:41:55 PM
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Rose was a bitch. Possibly a narcissist. Her final scene in the movie proves that. also there was enough space for both her and jack. shes the real villain.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/20/22 11:43:18 PM
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FelineCyborg posted...
Rose was a bitch. Possibly a narcissist. Her final scene in the movie proves that. also there was enough space for both her and jack. shes the real villain.
This, she was a selfish child who refused to even save the supposed love of her life when it really mattered.

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FelineCyborg
04/20/22 11:47:45 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
This, she was a selfish child who refused to even save the supposed love of her life when it really mattered.

She let jack die because it was more romantic, and she was probably over it at that point. "What use are you to me freezing in the water like that, all dying like some beta bitch?"

Fucking psycho.

She also did a thing called triangulation, common narc tactic pitting jack and cal against each other

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The Popo
04/20/22 11:50:54 PM
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He was justified in his anger, but not justified in going on a murder-intent shooting spree on the ship

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HairyQueen
04/20/22 11:58:12 PM
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I dont really remember the details throughout the film, but I dont blame him at all for getting into the lifeboat by lying. Anyone painting him as a coward for that (like the tone of that scene implies) can fuck off and go down with the ship themselves.

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obsolete
04/20/22 11:58:40 PM
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Well he went shooting.
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FelineCyborg
04/21/22 12:05:50 AM
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obsolete posted...
Well he went shooting.

As was the fashion for the time

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Gobstoppers12
04/21/22 12:09:26 AM
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Disregarding the topic question...y'all still talking about this door like they didn't both try to get on it at first, which caused it to sink and flip over because it couldn't support both of them.

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keepmywifesname
04/21/22 12:11:37 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Disregarding the topic question...y'all still talking about this door like they didn't both try to get on it at first, which caused it to sink and flip over because it couldn't support both of them.

they couldve swapped every 5-10 minutes fam.

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SomeLikeItHoth
04/21/22 12:13:17 AM
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He was fairly level headed until he started shooting.

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SomeLikeItHoth
04/21/22 12:13:52 AM
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keepmywifesname posted...
they couldve swapped every 5-10 minutes fam.
In real life theyd be dead in less than a minute.

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Gobstoppers12
04/21/22 12:18:59 AM
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keepmywifesname posted...
they couldve swapped every 5-10 minutes fam.
That was the plan, wasn't it? But he never made her switch, because he knew she'd die in the cold.

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DeadBankerDream
04/21/22 12:20:20 AM
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keepmywifesname posted...
they couldve swapped every 5-10 minutes fam.
Is this a real suggestion or are you saying something silly for the sake of it?

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Zikten
04/21/22 12:20:53 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
Rose was a bitch. Possibly a narcissist. Her final scene in the movie proves that. also there was enough space for both her and jack. shes the real villain.

Yep. Think of all the people she could have helped if she sold that jewel
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keepmywifesname
04/21/22 12:23:02 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Is this a real suggestion or are you saying something silly for the sake of it?

how can I make a real suggestion for a fake scene? Obviously Im just messing around

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TULPAMANCER
04/21/22 12:49:43 AM
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The problem with the door is that they both tried climbing on from the same side. Jack should've tried climbing on from the other side in order to keep it balanced. And they could've taken off their life vests and shoved them underneath the door to make it more buoyant and keep them out of the water.
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yusiko
04/21/22 12:55:00 AM
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there is a deleted scene that shows jack trying to climb onto the board with rose and it starting to capsize so he keeps another man off who tries to get on with rose threatening to drown him if he tries again

and no cal was not justified
he treated rose like a piece of property right from the start belittling her interests and opinions and controlling her choices down to what she ate.


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Mr_Karate_II
04/21/22 12:58:05 AM
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yusiko posted...
there is a deleted scene that shows jack trying to climb onto the board with rose and it starting to capsize so he keeps another man off who tries to get on with rose threatening to drown him if he tries again

and no cal was not justified
he treated rose like a piece of property right from the start belittling her interests and opinions and controlling her choices down to what she ate.
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TinglesDingle
04/21/22 1:12:19 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
As was the fashion for the time
Cracked up

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Blade_Trinity
04/21/22 2:19:41 AM
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Calm down people. It's only a movie.

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haloiscoolisbak
04/21/22 2:24:27 AM
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Pulling the gun out was a bit much

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DD Divine
04/21/22 2:33:27 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
As was the fashion for the time

beat me to it

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itachi15243
04/21/22 2:36:03 AM
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TULPAMANCER posted...
The problem with the door is that they both tried climbing on from the same side. Jack should've tried climbing on from the other side in order to keep it balanced. And they could've taken off their life vests and shoved them underneath the door to make it more buoyant and keep them out of the water.

I doubt they were of sound mind to try that considering Jack was already half dead and both were too hypothermic to think straight

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ForsakenHermit
04/21/22 2:39:44 AM
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Cal was a spoiled brat who thought he could buy his way out of anything. Rose was right to leave him, even if she went about it the wrong way, like leaving that bitchy note in the safe.

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SuperShake666
04/21/22 2:42:06 AM
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He was an asshole but didn't deserve to die until he pulled out the gun. All bets are off when you start shooting during an ongoing catastrophic disaster.

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Strider102
04/21/22 3:02:30 AM
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Not really.

You have to keep in mind Cal saw Rose as nothing more than property. He never actually cared for her, and he knew she never really cared for him which is why he tried to buy her affection.

Not to mention, as per the movie's lore, Rose was 16, forced into this marriage by her mother for money.

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Kajagogo
04/21/22 3:05:58 AM
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"You gonna cut her meat for her too, Cal?"

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Lorenzo_2003
04/21/22 3:15:39 AM
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yusiko posted...
and no cal was not justified
he treated rose like a piece of property right from the start belittling her interests and opinions and controlling her choices down to what she ate.

Roses mother was basically selling her to Cal, in hopes of getting his riches because they were broke.

So, yeah, she was being traded for money, just like we do with property. Rose deciding she did not want to complete their transaction was perfectly fine. It was her life, of course.

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FelineCyborg
04/21/22 7:14:37 AM
#30:


SuperShake666 posted...
He was an asshole but didn't deserve to die until he pulled out the gun. All bets are off when you start shooting during an ongoing catastrophic disaster.

Imo thats the best time to start shooting

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DD Divine
04/21/22 9:16:56 AM
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Also it wasnt a door she was floating on. It was a wooden panel from the decor

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
04/21/22 11:51:37 AM
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Myth busters did an episode showing if they put the life jacket under the wood panel both of them would have lived. They also showed that multiple tries were needed to balance it right but once you got it balanced you would be fine for a long time.

Jack could have survived and Rose proved to just be a selfish child who did not actually love Jack as if she really loved him she would have fought to make sure they found a way to both live.

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TULPAMANCER
04/21/22 12:10:57 PM
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Rose is a total hypocrite, too. At the beginning she scoffs at the majesty and scale of Titanic ("I don't see what all the fuss is about; it doesn't look any bigger than the Mauritania") yet later she mocks Mr. Ismay for his "preoccupation with size." Um, what?
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TinglesDingle
04/21/22 12:15:34 PM
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TULPAMANCER posted...
Rose is a total hypocrite, too. At the beginning she scoffs at the majesty and scale of Titanic ("I don't see what all the fuss is about; it doesn't look any bigger than the Mauritania") yet later she mocks Mr. Ismay for his "preoccupation with size." Um, what?
Um, seems pretty consistent

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TULPAMANCER
04/21/22 12:17:02 PM
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In addition, after Rose scoffs at Titanic (and by extension shows a complete lack of gratitude toward Cal for getting them first class tickets on the grandest ship the world had ever seen), Cal responds with "You can be blase about some things, Rose, but not about Titanic. She's over a hundred feet longer than the Mauritania. And far more luxurious."

This suggests that Rose has a habit of insulting or dismissing everything Cal does for her or buys her. He even remarks to his future mother in law "your daughter is far too difficult to impress, Ruth." One can only imagine how far this would go. What if Rose was a size queen? She would no doubt make emasculating comments about Cal's manhood if he was packing anything short of a Mandingo.
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TULPAMANCER
04/21/22 12:22:08 PM
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TinglesDingle posted...
Um, seems pretty consistent

How? Rose was unimpressed by Titanic because it wasn't big enough. Yet as soon as Mr. Ismay speaks of the scale of the ship, Rose has to make a petulant comment about Freud.
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angeleyes94
04/21/22 12:22:33 PM
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All dat money doe, what a hoe. I coulda paid my baby mama's maintenance payments.

Fo real doe what an absolute bitch throwing dat jewel just cause, disgustan

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