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Blue_Inigo 04/17/22 10:01:31 PM #1:	Is it a bad game? No. Did I heavily enjoy it? Yes. Is it actually a remake of 7? No. It's being meta about being a remake unnecessarily so to me. It wants to be more than just FF7. It's the (assumed) last of the FF7 Compilation in reality. The balls on Square to do this are tremendous and crazy --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:964366887] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Is it a bad game? No. Did I heavily enjoy it? Yes. Is it actually a remake of 7? No. It's being meta about being a remake unnecessarily so to me. It wants to be more than just FF7. It's the (assumed) last of the FF7 Compilation in reality. The balls on Square to do this are tremendous and crazy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/17/22 10:01:54 PM #2:	Ok --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:964366893] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/17/22 10:03:54 PM #3:	I absolutely loved the game aside from the meta aspect. That shit was so dumb and pointless. --- Fire Walk With Me https://imgur.com/a/X14Jka4 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:964366928] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I absolutely loved the game aside from the meta aspect. That shit was so dumb and pointless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KYOJIROKAGENUMA 04/17/22 10:06:19 PM #4:	What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak <cite>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted [p:964366964] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/17/22 10:06:21 PM #5:	Zodd3224 posted... I absolutely loved the game aside from the meta aspect. That shit was so dumb and pointless. Nah I disagree. I'm excited for the implications regarding the ending because the ending of the original game was total dog shit and if the remake gives us an opportunity to have a real ending then I want to see it play out. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964366965] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>I absolutely loved the game aside from the meta aspect. That shit was so dumb and pointless.</quote>Nah I disagree. I'm excited for the implications regarding the ending because the ending of the original game was total dog shit and if the remake gives us an opportunity to have a real ending then I want to see it play out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/17/22 10:06:41 PM #6:	Loved the core game. The sidequests were such filler disappointment. You'd think with all the time, they'd make sidequests that had even an ounce of meaning for the characters we been waiting to see done in a bigger way. Not saying they didn't do any of that in the game in general. Just saying the sidequests were dogshit that felt like a hurdle to get items. Id rather have no sidequests at all. It brought down my enjoyment every tome they gave me a bullshit task that took me away from what I was there for and added absolutely nothing to the experience. I wanted whatever the items were since FF7 is important to me in a way. If it was a game I wasn't waiting forever for, Id just not do them and be fine with it. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964366970] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Loved the core game. The sidequests were such filler disappointment. You'd think with all the time, they'd make sidequests that had even an ounce of meaning for the characters we been waiting to see done in a bigger way. Not saying they didn't do any of that in the game in general. Just saying the sidequests were dogshit that felt like a hurdle to get items. Id rather have no sidequests at all. It brought down my enjoyment every tome they gave me a bullshit task that took me away from what I was there for and added absolutely nothing to the experience. I wanted whatever the items were since FF7 is important to me in a way. If it was a game I wasn't waiting forever for, Id just not do them and be fine with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/17/22 10:07:38 PM #7:	KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) These Spectre / phantom things show up any time you attempt to divert from the original story and smack you around until you're back on the story. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964366983] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... </cite> <quote>What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake)</quote> These Spectre / phantom things show up any time you attempt to divert from the original story and smack you around until you're back on the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 04/17/22 10:10:41 PM #9:	KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) ~~It's structured in a way that the fans already know the outcome of the original.~~ There's a new enemy in the plot called The Whispers. They're basically the spirits of fate or something. You beat them at the end, and cutscenes in the ending and DLC imply that they've deviated from the events of the original game --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:964367056] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... </cite> <quote>What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake)</quote>It's structured in a way that the fans already know the outcome of the original. There's a new enemy in the plot called The Whispers. They're basically the spirits of fate or something. You beat them at the end, and cutscenes in the ending and DLC imply that they've deviated from the events of the original game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 04/17/22 10:14:59 PM #10:	At first I was pissed because of the revelation that it's not actually gonna be a straight remake. Now I'm just curious where they're gonna go with this. I do still hope they keep most of the story beats intact, but it's a bit exciting to see what new elements they can throw in (and have it stick the landing, of course). And we'll end up actually getting a straight remake with that mobile game that will almost assuredly be ported to consoles later. So there's that. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:964367135] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>At first I was pissed because of the revelation that it's not actually gonna be a straight remake. Now I'm just curious where they're gonna go with this. I do still hope they keep most of the story beats intact, but it's a bit exciting to see what new elements they can throw in (and have it stick the landing, of course). And we'll end up actually getting a straight remake with that mobile game that will almost assuredly be ported to consoles later. So there's that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 04/17/22 10:15:47 PM #11:	Is awesome --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:964367148] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Is awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 04/17/22 10:18:34 PM #12:	BakonBitz posted... At first I was pissed because of the revelation that it's not actually gonna be a straight remake. Now I'm just curious where they're gonna go with this. I do still hope they keep most of the story beats intact, but it's a bit exciting to see what new elements they can throw in (and have it stick the landing, of course). And we'll end up actually getting a straight remake with that mobile game that will almost assuredly be ported to consoles later. So there's that. Yeah, I'm fine with it for now, but I'm reserving judgment depending on how it's going to go. I don't want it to follow the exact plot of the original, but I don't want any convoluted Kingdom Heartsness either --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:964367199] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite> <quote>At first I was pissed because of the revelation that it's not actually gonna be a straight remake. Now I'm just curious where they're gonna go with this. I do still hope they keep most of the story beats intact, but it's a bit exciting to see what new elements they can throw in (and have it stick the landing, of course). And we'll end up actually getting a straight remake with that mobile game that will almost assuredly be ported to consoles later. So there's that.</quote>Yeah, I'm fine with it for now, but I'm reserving judgment depending on how it's going to go. I don't want it to follow the exact plot of the original, but I don't want any convoluted Kingdom Heartsness either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 04/17/22 10:20:27 PM #13:	I liked when Cloud was getting his dress and Aerith was out in the crowd panting at the result. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:964367228] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I liked when Cloud was getting his dress and Aerith was out in the crowd panting at the result. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 04/17/22 10:20:52 PM #14:	Tyranthraxus posted... Nah I disagree. I'm excited for the implications regarding the ending because the ending of the original game was total dog shit and if the remake gives us an opportunity to have a real ending then I want to see it play out. They could have completely changed the ending (and anything else for that matter) without all the meta destiny ghost nonsense in this one. --- Fire Walk With Me https://imgur.com/a/X14Jka4 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:964367240] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Nah I disagree. I'm excited for the implications regarding the ending because the ending of the original game was total dog shit and if the remake gives us an opportunity to have a real ending then I want to see it play out.</quote> They could have completely changed the ending (and anything else for that matter) without all the meta destiny ghost nonsense in this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/17/22 10:21:23 PM #15:	game is a nightmare to replay because of the amount of scripting. original FF7 didn't have this problem. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:964367251] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>game is a nightmare to replay because of the amount of scripting. original FF7 didn't have this problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/17/22 10:22:29 PM #16:	Just realized how off topic I went. I don't mind Remakes with major changes. I think it's boring to keep everything the same. I can just play the original for that story again. Do something different --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964367278] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Just realized how off topic I went. I don't mind Remakes with major changes. I think it's boring to keep everything the same. I can just play the original for that story again. Do something different </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 04/17/22 10:23:35 PM #17:	CyricZ posted... I liked when Cloud was getting his dress and Aerith was out in the crowd panting at the result. People thought they were going to tone down or outright cut that part of the game. Instead they made it even more outrageous. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:964367299] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>I liked when Cloud was getting his dress and Aerith was out in the crowd panting at the result.</quote>People thought they were going to tone down or outright cut that part of the game. Instead they made it even more outrageous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/17/22 10:24:56 PM #18:	Hayame Zero posted... People thought they were going to tone down or outright cut that part of the game. Instead they made it even more outrageous. Everything about Wall Market was amazing tbh --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:964367328] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Hayame Zero posted... </cite> <quote>People thought they were going to tone down or outright cut that part of the game. Instead they made it even more outrageous.</quote>Everything about Wall Market was amazing tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 04/17/22 10:39:49 PM #19:	I had a lot of fun with that game and honestly if it doesn't complete in my lifetime, I'll be okay. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:964367697] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I had a lot of fun with that game and honestly if it doesn't complete in my lifetime, I'll be okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 04/17/22 11:27:29 PM #20:	KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) ~~FF7R is actually a sequel.~~ --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:964368647] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... </cite> <quote>What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake)</quote>FF7R is actually a sequel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FelineCyborg 04/17/22 11:37:56 PM #21:	I didnt like the game, but i might try to pick it up completely ignoring sidequests Complete pointless padding --- "well, yeah, and a lot of minorities go to see minstrel shows, too." - PyroSpoon <cite>FelineCyborg posted [p:964368795] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I didnt like the game, but i might try to pick it up completely ignoring sidequests Complete pointless padding </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 04/18/22 1:37:01 AM #22:	On one hand it's kind of dumb On the other hand it gives some mystery and unknown to a story everyone and their mother has known for like 25 years. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:964370439] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>On one hand it's kind of dumb On the other hand it gives some mystery and unknown to a story everyone and their mother has known for like 25 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 04/18/22 1:41:25 AM #23:	WHAT THE HELLS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!! puts hand up to ear like macho man randy savage CAN'T YOU HEAR THE PLANET IS CRYIN OUT IN PAIN!! OH YEEEAAAAHHHH <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:964370500] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>WHAT THE HELLS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!! puts hand up to ear like macho man randy savage CAN'T YOU HEAR THE PLANET IS CRYIN OUT IN PAIN!! OH YEEEAAAAHHHH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 04/18/22 1:43:30 AM #24:	it is a dumb game. there's also so much of it that's completely pointless. and tedious. a lot of it doesn't need to exist. actually, most of it didn't really need to exist. it didn't add anything and certainly didn't make anything better. the best it probably did was introduce the characters to a new generation of people that are too afraid to play the og game. but that's pretty much all it did...? it alienated, changed, altered, or completely shat on everything else though, so... --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:964370521] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>it is a dumb game. there's also so much of it that's completely pointless. and tedious. a lot of it doesn't need to exist. actually, most of it didn't really need to exist. it didn't add anything and certainly didn't make anything better. the best it probably did was introduce the characters to a new generation of people that are too afraid to play the og game. but that's pretty much all it did...? it alienated, changed, altered, or completely shat on everything else though, so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 04/18/22 1:44:16 AM #25:	The gameplay was phenomenal, but knowing Nomura the story is probably going to go to shits. I just hope it isn't Kingdom Hearts bad. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:964370529] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>The gameplay was phenomenal, but knowing Nomura the story is probably going to go to shits. I just hope it isn't Kingdom Hearts bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 1:46:39 AM #26:	Guerrilla Soldier posted... it didn't add anything and certainly didn't make anything better. It made Jessie, Wedge & Biggs way better. Because you actually got to know them with some depth. We got to know Jessie is a horndog and is a more interesting character than Anime Tifa. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370547] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Guerrilla Soldier posted... </cite> <quote>it didn't add anything and certainly didn't make anything better.</quote> It made Jessie, Wedge & Biggs way better. Because you actually got to know them with some depth. We got to know Jessie is a horndog and is a more interesting character than Anime Tifa. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 04/18/22 1:50:08 AM #27:	Great game, but I also had literally 0 interest in a straight remake of FF7. Learning it wasn't one was why I got interested in the first place. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:964370584] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Great game, but I also had literally 0 interest in a straight remake of FF7. Learning it wasn't one was why I got interested in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 1:53:36 AM #28:	Jabodie posted... Great game, but I also had literally 0 interest in a straight remake of FF7. Learning it wasn't one was why I got interested in the first place. Same. If they didn't change the gameplay especially. That would of been a flop. Or at least, you get less people interested in caring to continue after. It just doesn't translate to such modern graphics. I can't imagine doing all that work just for the characters to stand there and bob back and fourth until you press one button and wait for them to attack lol. That gameplay works much better with a less bombastic style. Plus, it would of fell completely flat with a new audience. It would of only satisfied people with nostalgia that dont like stuff to change. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370621] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>Great game, but I also had literally 0 interest in a straight remake of FF7. Learning it wasn't one was why I got interested in the first place.</quote> Same. If they didn't change the gameplay especially. That would of been a flop. Or at least, you get less people interested in caring to continue after. It just doesn't translate to such modern graphics. I can't imagine doing all that work just for the characters to stand there and bob back and fourth until you press one button and wait for them to attack lol. That gameplay works much better with a less bombastic style. Plus, it would of fell completely flat with a new audience. It would of only satisfied people with nostalgia that dont like stuff to change. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tainted_emerald 04/18/22 1:55:55 AM #29:	Zodd3224 posted... They could have completely changed the ending (and anything else for that matter) without all the meta destiny ghost nonsense in this one. It's Nomura. We'll be lucky if the main characters aren't sidelined by OCs of his own making by the time the story is over. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose, and you will have altered its nature." - Gerald Tarrant <cite>tainted_emerald posted [p:964370648] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted... </cite> <quote>They could have completely changed the ending (and anything else for that matter) without all the meta destiny ghost nonsense in this one.</quote>It's Nomura. We'll be lucky if the main characters aren't sidelined by OCs of his own making by the time the story is over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 04/18/22 1:57:24 AM #30:	game was fun. ~~we were all expecting a remake and got something semi-new~~ I was meh about it playing it on normal difficulty but going through it again on hard was a whole 'nother story when I couldnt just mash x to win almost every battle --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:964370664] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>game was fun. we were all expecting a remake and got something semi-new I was meh about it playing it on normal difficulty but going through it again on hard was a whole 'nother story when I couldnt just mash x to win almost every battle </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 2:00:43 AM #31:	AbstraktProfSC2 posted... just mash x to win almost every battle Is this dramatized take still happening? It just makes the person saying it look like they never played the game and don't realize they have to control all their parties abilities. Or maybe they played the game and couldn't tell the difference between credits and a gameover screen --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370703] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>AbstraktProfSC2 posted... </cite> <quote>just mash x to win almost every battle</quote> Is this dramatized take still happening? It just makes the person saying it look like they never played the game and don't realize they have to control all their parties abilities. Or maybe they played the game and couldn't tell the difference between credits and a gameover screen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 04/18/22 2:07:13 AM #32:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Is this dramatized take still happening? It just makes the person saying it look like they never played the game and don't realize they have to control all their parties abilities. Or maybe they played the game and couldn't tell the difference between credits and a gameover screen i beat it on hard. you barely need to switch character or materia on normal lol not my fault youre just bad like 1 or 2 trophies away from getting the plat but i got tired of the game at that point https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AANWCOAADJSF.jpg --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:964370774] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Is this dramatized take still happening? It just makes the person saying it look like they never played the game and don't realize they have to control all their parties abilities. Or maybe they played the game and couldn't tell the difference between credits and a gameover screen</quote> i beat it on hard. you barely need to switch character or materia on normal lol not my fault youre just bad like 1 or 2 trophies away from getting the plat but i got tired of the game at that point https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AANWCOAADJSF.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 2:13:48 AM #33:	AbstraktProfSC2 posted... i beat it on hard. you barely need to switch character or materia on normal lol not my fault youre just bad ....you have zero insight on what I played. >_>. .....wait a minute....I know who you are.... you're the guy that inspired that other topic! I found him! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79989103 You're the guy who pissed off this guy! I never thought I'd meet you in person. This is exciting --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370826] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>AbstraktProfSC2 posted... </cite> <quote>i beat it on hard. you barely need to switch character or materia on normal lol not my fault youre just bad</quote> ....you have zero insight on what I played. >_>. .....wait a minute....I know who you are.... you're the guy that inspired that other topic! I found him! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79989103 You're the guy who pissed off this guy! I never thought I'd meet you in person. This is exciting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 2:17:45 AM #34:	Btw. I like how you're all cocky as shit and didn't even platinum the game. You're being cocky and aren't even on the top of the foodchain XD. You completely left it open for someone with the platinum to easily come check you. What a rookie move. Guess you didn't platinum life either :3 --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370861] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Btw. I like how you're all cocky as shit and didn't even platinum the game. You're being cocky and aren't even on the top of the foodchain XD. You completely left it open for someone with the platinum to easily come check you. What a rookie move. Guess you didn't platinum life either :3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 04/18/22 2:19:08 AM #35:	im looking for what that topic has to do with me you drunk bruv? i personally didnt like FF7R on normal as much as hard. I enjoyed hard because it actually required strategy that normal didnt....thats the entire point of a tougher difficulty. why does that make you angry --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:964370875] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>im looking for what that topic has to do with me you drunk bruv? i personally didnt like FF7R on normal as much as hard. I enjoyed hard because it actually required strategy that normal didnt....thats the entire point of a tougher difficulty. why does that make you angry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 04/18/22 2:20:34 AM #36:	im guessing youre a gimmick account --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:964370884] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>im guessing youre a gimmick account </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 2:22:32 AM #37:	AbstraktProfSC2 posted... im guessing youre a gimmick account You also didn't platinum CE apparently. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370902] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>AbstraktProfSC2 posted... </cite> <quote>im guessing youre a gimmick account</quote> You also didn't platinum CE apparently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 04/18/22 2:25:30 AM #38:	Lost_All_Senses posted... You also didn't platinum CE apparently. nah. dont care to. are you supposed to be somebody --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:964370935] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>You also didn't platinum CE apparently.</quote>nah. dont care to. are you supposed to be somebody </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 04/18/22 2:28:14 AM #39:	It was fine but the filler was very obvious and I cant stand JRPG voice acting/dialog or generic anime writing. Also they leaned too hard into the ACfication of Cloud and hes really hard to watch/listen to sometimes. Fucking love the combat though. Its not KH McBleach Seven Paths Sage Ultra Instinct mode like AC, and is significantly more grounded than I expected it to be. And thank fuck for that, because impact>coat hangar swishing with giant weapons and teleportation shit. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:964370960] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>It was fine but the filler was very obvious and I cant stand JRPG voice acting/dialog or generic anime writing. Also they leaned too hard into the ACfication of Cloud and hes really hard to watch/listen to sometimes. Fucking love the combat though. Its not KH McBleach Seven Paths Sage Ultra Instinct mode like AC, and is significantly more grounded than I expected it to be. And thank fuck for that, because impact>coat hangar swishing with giant weapons and teleportation shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 04/18/22 2:29:16 AM #40:	AbstraktProfSC2 posted... nah. dont care to. are you supposed to be somebody Neh. I just only have one account and been fuckin around here far too long lol. So, enough people know the minimum of me sticking to this one account. Im just giving you a hard time tho cause you said Im bad at games lol. I completely understand the want for deeper strategy in games that revolve around strategy. I agree it was a lot more tense on Hard and it made it more interesting. Hard to jump back into after long breaks tho. And I have a habit of taking long breaks. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:964370975] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>AbstraktProfSC2 posted... </cite> <quote>nah. dont care to. are you supposed to be somebody</quote> Neh. I just only have one account and been fuckin around here far too long lol. So, enough people know the minimum of me sticking to this one account. Im just giving you a hard time tho cause you said Im bad at games lol. I completely understand the want for deeper strategy in games that revolve around strategy. I agree it was a lot more tense on Hard and it made it more interesting. Hard to jump back into after long breaks tho. And I have a habit of taking long breaks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 04/18/22 2:42:57 AM #41:	KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake) Just for a more complete answer than what others have given. For maybe 80-90% of the game, it's more-or-less a straight remake. Cloud has visions of Sephiroth that he didn't have in the original and it does things like flesh out minor characters and give them more detailed backstories, but it's nothing that crazy or unexpected for a AAA 2020 remake of a 1997 game. But throughout the game, these dementor-like spirits show up and just fuck with things. ~~You first see a few of them messing with Aerith when she and Cloud first meet and she gives them the flower.~~ ~~A horde of them show up in Sector 7 the morning Tifa, Barret, and Jessie are supposed to go blow up a mako reactor, only disappearing when Jessie is injured.~~ ~~When Cloud meets Aerith again in the church, they stop Cloud from killing Reno and push Aerith back up on a balcony when she nearly falls off.~~ ~~They attack Cloud, Aerith, and Tifa when they're trying to get back to Sector 7 to stop the plate from falling.~~ ~~In the SHINRA building, Hojo nearly tells Cloud his full backstory, but the phantoms grab him and carry him away.~~ ~~Near the end of the game, Sephiroth fatally stabs Barret. The phantoms heal the wound and save Barret's life.~~ You might notice a pattern. The phantoms show up whenever something seems like it's going to deviate from the original FF7's story. They harass Aerith because Cloud took a longer route, thus ensuring the two of them meet. They attack Sector 7 because Jessie was going to go on the mako bombing mission instead of Cloud. They save Reno and Aerith in the church. They delay the main trio from getting to Sector 7 so they don't stop the plate from falling. And so on. Red XIII explains what they are to the party. The phantoms are creatures of the planet called Whispers who enforce destiny. It's heavily implied that the Sephiroth seen in the remake is the same man from the original game and Advent Children. It's ~~also~~ heavily implied that Aerith somehow remembers the events of the original game, though she says that she "loses a bit of herself" whenever a Whisper touches her, so it's unclear just how much she knows. Both Sephiroth and Aerith are trying to alter the course of destiny. Sephiroth for obvious reasons, but why is Aerith doing it? Because the remake all but outright states that the original FF7 is the bad ending. The post-credits scene of Red XIII running through a canyon and seeing Midgar in ruins implies that humanity dies out. The planet keeps trucking, so it's fine with that outcome and sends the Whispers to keep it on track, but Aerith is not. Sephiroth is aiming to pull off his original plan, Aerith is aiming to more effectively prevent it this time. The game's penultimate boss is against a giant Whisper called the Arbiter of Fate. The party defeat it and then have a little showdown with Sephiroth because Square Enix loves money. The ending is then a fucking trip for anyone who played the original because things are different. Briggs survived the plate falling and it's suggested Jessie did too, but the big one is that Zack survived his final stand. I personally love the idea of it, but I played FF7 solely to play the remake, so I don't have the hardcore nostalgia for it that most people do. It also botched the execution of it quite a bit (~~that final boss is honestly pretty goofy and dumb~~), but I'm pretty excited to see where they go with it. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:964371100] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... </cite> <quote>What do the people in the topic mean about it being "meta"? (I have not played the remake)</quote>Just for a more complete answer than what others have given. For maybe 80-90% of the game, it's more-or-less a straight remake. Cloud has visions of Sephiroth that he didn't have in the original and it does things like flesh out minor characters and give them more detailed backstories, but it's nothing that crazy or unexpected for a AAA 2020 remake of a 1997 game. But throughout the game, these dementor-like spirits show up and just fuck with things. You first see a few of them messing with Aerith when she and Cloud first meet and she gives them the flower. A horde of them show up in Sector 7 the morning Tifa, Barret, and Jessie are supposed to go blow up a mako reactor, only disappearing when Jessie is injured. When Cloud meets Aerith again in the church, they stop Cloud from killing Reno and push Aerith back up on a balcony when she nearly falls off. They attack Cloud, Aerith, and Tifa when they're trying to get back to Sector 7 to stop the plate from falling.In the SHINRA building, Hojo nearly tells Cloud his full backstory, but the phantoms grab him and carry him away.Near the end of the game, Sephiroth fatally stabs Barret. The phantoms heal the wound and save Barret's life.You might notice a pattern. The phantoms show up whenever something seems like it's going to deviate from the original FF7's story. They harass Aerith because Cloud took a longer route, thus ensuring the two of them meet. They attack Sector 7 because Jessie was going to go on the mako bombing mission instead of Cloud. They save Reno and Aerith in the church. They delay the main trio from getting to Sector 7 so they don't stop the plate from falling. And so on. Red XIII explains what they are to the party. The phantoms are creatures of the planet called Whispers who enforce destiny. It's heavily implied that the Sephiroth seen in the remake is the same man from the original game and Advent Children. It's also heavily implied that Aerith somehow remembers the events of the original game, though she says that she "loses a bit of herself" whenever a Whisper touches her, so it's unclear just how much she knows. Both Sephiroth and Aerith are trying to alter the course of destiny. Sephiroth for obvious reasons, but why is Aerith doing it? Because the remake all but outright states that the original FF7 is the bad ending. The post-credits scene of Red XIII running through a canyon and seeing Midgar in ruins implies that humanity dies out. The planet keeps trucking, so it's fine with that outcome and sends the Whispers to keep it on track, but Aerith is not. Sephiroth is aiming to pull off his original plan, Aerith is aiming to more effectively prevent it this time. The game's penultimate boss is against a giant Whisper called the Arbiter of Fate. The party defeat it and then have a little showdown with Sephiroth because Square Enix loves money. The ending is then a fucking trip for anyone who played the original because things are different. Briggs survived the plate falling and it's suggested Jessie did too, but the big one is that Zack survived his final stand. I personally love the idea of it, but I played FF7 solely to play the remake, so I don't have the hardcore nostalgia for it that most people do. It also botched the execution of it quite a bit (that final boss is honestly pretty goofy and dumb), but I'm pretty excited to see where they go with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/18/22 2:52:45 AM #42:	pegusus123456 posted... Some points of contention: ~~Aerith doesn't "remember" anything about the original game. She's receiving visions from her future self in the Lifestream.~~ Zack doesn't truly survive the last stand. The very end of the game Sephiroth affords Cloud an opportunity to change as much about the past as he wants for seven seconds. Cloud uses this time to rescue Zack, Biggs, Jessie, and most likely wedge as well & potentially others. This is the first real deviation from the plot of the original which was made possible by defeating the whispers. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964371168] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> Some points of contention: Aerith doesn't "remember" anything about the original game. She's receiving visions from her future self in the Lifestream. Zack doesn't truly survive the last stand. The very end of the game Sephiroth affords Cloud an opportunity to change as much about the past as he wants for seven seconds. Cloud uses this time to rescue Zack, Biggs, Jessie, and most likely wedge as well & potentially others. This is the first real deviation from the plot of the original which was made possible by defeating the whispers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkJake816 04/18/22 2:55:09 AM #43:	I think the games a hot mess through and through, with clunky combat, awful pacing, wack sidequests, and a premise straight out of a bad fanfic. Im also surprised to see that people like that the story could change a lot, considering its a remake. It sounds like you wouldve preferred a new game instead --- Big nerd <cite>DarkJake816 posted [p:964371184] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I think the games a hot mess through and through, with clunky combat, awful pacing, wack sidequests, and a premise straight out of a bad fanfic. Im also surprised to see that people like that the story could change a lot, considering its a remake. It sounds like you wouldve preferred a new game instead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 04/18/22 3:05:28 AM #44:	Tyranthraxus posted... Some points of contention: Yeah, the ending's kind of a mess, so I've not been super clear on that lol. DarkJake816 posted... I think the games a hot mess through and through, with clunky combat, awful pacing, wack sidequests, and a premise straight out of a bad fanfic. Im also surprised to see that people like that the story could change a lot, considering its a remake. It sounds like you wouldve preferred a new game instead The game keeps the vast majority of the same story, so it's not like you're really missing what a normal remake would have done. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:964371266] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Some points of contention:</quote>Yeah, the ending's kind of a mess, so I've not been super clear on that lol. DarkJake816 posted... </cite> <quote>I think the games a hot mess through and through, with clunky combat, awful pacing, wack sidequests, and a premise straight out of a bad fanfic. Im also surprised to see that people like that the story could change a lot, considering its a remake. It sounds like you wouldve preferred a new game instead</quote>The game keeps the vast majority of the same story, so it's not like you're really missing what a normal remake would have done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 04/18/22 4:00:15 AM #45:	trappedunderice posted... WHAT THE HELLS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!! puts hand up to ear like macho man randy savage CAN'T YOU HEAR THE PLANET IS CRYIN OUT IN PAIN!! OH YEEEAAAAHHHH https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/6/AABhrNAADJSc.jpg --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:964371683] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>trappedunderice posted... </cite> <quote>WHAT THE HELLS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!! puts hand up to ear like macho man randy savage CAN'T YOU HEAR THE PLANET IS CRYIN OUT IN PAIN!! OH YEEEAAAAHHHH</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/6/AABhrNAADJSc.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 04/18/22 5:22:53 AM #46:	Shotgunnova posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/6/AABhrNAADJSc.jpg THE MACHO MAN BARRET WALLACE OH YEAHHHHHH!!! SNAP INTO A SHINRA! --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:964372187] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/6/AABhrNAADJSc.jpg</quote> THE MACHO MAN BARRET WALLACE OH YEAHHHHHH!!! SNAP INTO A SHINRA! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scarecrow17 04/18/22 7:02:56 AM #47:	Prestoff posted... The gameplay was phenomenal, but knowing Nomura the story is probably going to go to shits. I just hope it isn't Kingdom Hearts bad. Nomura did not write the story for this game. It was Nojima who was the lead writer. I dont know why people want to blame Nomura for so many things at Square Enix. In reality, Nomura wanted to keep the remake as faithful to the original game as possible but it was Kitase, the director of the original FF7, who said Do something totally new with the story. --- His foundation lie in the holy mountain. Selah. <cite>Scarecrow17 posted [p:964372945] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite> <quote>The gameplay was phenomenal, but knowing Nomura the story is probably going to go to shits. I just hope it isn't Kingdom Hearts bad.</quote> Nomura did not write the story for this game. It was Nojima who was the lead writer. I dont know why people want to blame Nomura for so many things at Square Enix. In reality, Nomura wanted to keep the remake as faithful to the original game as possible but it was Kitase, the director of the original FF7, who said Do something totally new with the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Clark 04/18/22 7:06:45 AM #48:	The combat is excellent, and I like the story (even the changes), but the sidequests are shit, and the padding is exhausting - like, they look up at a tower and say they need to get to the top and you just know you have a two hour chapter ahead of you to get there - just the thought of it becomes wearying. They didn't really expand on the Midgar section so much as they just... made it take much longer. Overall I still rate the game, because the core gameplay is mostly brilliant, but it definitely has flaws. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif <cite>Tom Clark posted [p:964372970] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>The combat is excellent, and I like the story (even the changes), but the sidequests are shit, and the padding is exhausting - like, they look up at a tower and say they need to get to the top and you just know you have a two hour chapter ahead of you to get there - just the thought of it becomes wearying. They didn't really expand on the Midgar section so much as they just... made it take much longer. Overall I still rate the game, because the core gameplay is mostly brilliant, but it definitely has flaws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 04/18/22 9:31:08 AM #49:	Tyranthraxus posted... Some points of contention: 1. ~~Aerith doesn't "remember" anything about the original game. She's receiving visions from her future self in the Lifestream.~~ 2. Zack doesn't truly survive the last stand. The very end of the game Sephiroth affords Cloud an opportunity to change as much about the past as he wants for seven seconds. Cloud uses this time to rescue Zack, Biggs, Jessie, and most likely wedge as well & potentially others. This is the first real deviation from the plot of the original which was made possible by defeating the whispers. I was under the impression with point 2 that Cloud's decision in that seven seconds was supposed to be in the future. Possibly when Sephiroth summons Meteor. It also seems to be implied that perhaps the surviving characters are in an alternate timeline now. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:964374725] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Some points of contention: 1. Aerith doesn't "remember" anything about the original game. She's receiving visions from her future self in the Lifestream. 2. Zack doesn't truly survive the last stand. The very end of the game Sephiroth affords Cloud an opportunity to change as much about the past as he wants for seven seconds. Cloud uses this time to rescue Zack, Biggs, Jessie, and most likely wedge as well & potentially others. This is the first real deviation from the plot of the original which was made possible by defeating the whispers.</quote>I was under the impression with point 2 that Cloud's decision in that seven seconds was supposed to be in the future. Possibly when Sephiroth summons Meteor. It also seems to be implied that perhaps the surviving characters are in an alternate timeline now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/18/22 9:54:10 AM #50:	BakonBitz posted... I was under the impression with point 2 that Cloud's decision in that seven seconds was supposed to be in the future. Possibly when Sephiroth summons Meteor. It also seems to be implied that perhaps the surviving characters are in an alternate timeline now. I think it's unlikely cloud changed anything about the future. He doesn't know what's coming. Plus with the whispers gone, the future is open to be changed by actions taken at any point from now on. Essentially future deviations of plot are going to be the consequences of their actions. Cloud was just editing a formerly deterministic history. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:964375073] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite> <quote>I was under the impression with point 2 that Cloud's decision in that seven seconds was supposed to be in the future. Possibly when Sephiroth summons Meteor. It also seems to be implied that perhaps the surviving characters are in an alternate timeline now.</quote> I think it's unlikely cloud changed anything about the future. He doesn't know what's coming. Plus with the whispers gone, the future is open to be changed by actions taken at any point from now on. Essentially future deviations of plot are going to be the consequences of their actions. Cloud was just editing a formerly deterministic history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkinsanity1 04/18/22 10:01:37 AM #51:	I'm also a little conflicted. While I enjoyed it, I don't really find myself really wanting to do a replay, at least not for the gameplay which while fun just doesn't quite draw me in like other games. But as a fan of the original FFVII, it's still really cool to play this game. How ridiculously good it looks, the music and character interactions and I actually think it's interesting that things won't necessarily be the exact same as the original. It adds an element of mystery which is of course what they were going for because of all the people who already know what happens in the original. --- Every time you read this, squirrels randomly burst into flames. Think of the squirrels. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Darkinsanity-1468/hero/1924799 <cite>Darkinsanity1 posted [p:964375170] in I feel so ... [t:79989138]...</cite> <quote>I'm also a little conflicted. While I enjoyed it, I don't really find myself really wanting to do a replay, at least not for the gameplay which while fun just doesn't quite draw me in like other games. But as a fan of the original FFVII, it's still really cool to play this game. How ridiculously good it looks, the music and character interactions and I actually think it's interesting that things won't necessarily be the exact same as the original. It adds an element of mystery which is of course what they were going for because of all the people who already know what happens in the original. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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