Current Events > Am I the only one thats against college players getting paid?

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I'm completely against them getting any form of payment for playing or selling merchandise.

I just don't see why they should have that right.

Compare them to let's say a student researcher volunteering in a lab that brings in hundreds of thousands if not millions in research grants.

student researchers should also be paid for their work

They should absolutely get paid, but they also shouldn't get preferential treatment in admissions, first pick of classes, "help" maintaining the minimum GPA to be allowed to play, and free tuition in exchange.

They are already getting scholarships.

Why is sports a university thing anyway? Have real universities and sportsball institutes separated

I think it's weird that college sports is broadcasted and hyped at a nation wide level. After they graduate they either move onto a career or move into the pro level which if the later is when they should become famous and get paid. Since it's on a nationwide level then they definitely should be paid for at least merch sales of their likeness in clothing and video game sales.

They already get a pretty lucrative life while playing, but they are robbed at the same time. I personally don't think it should be broadcasted, but Merican's gotta have their sports.

they should live lavish lifestyles.

If the school can make money by selling jerseys with the researchers name on them he should get paid too.

DanHaren2022 posted...

I just don't see why they should have that right.

The fact that you call it a right is telling, imo

Why shouldnt people be able to sell their NIL for money.

Nothing is stopping researchers from doing it.

DanHaren2022 posted...

I'm completely against them getting any form of payment for playing or selling merchandise.

I just don't see why they should have that right.

Compare them to let's say a student researcher volunteering in a lab that brings in hundreds of thousands if not millions in research grants.

DanHaren2022 posted...

I'm completely against them getting any form of payment for playing or selling merchandise.

I just don't see why they should have that right.

Because the schools are pocketing tons off money off of themyes its a choice but when you consider the risk of injury and the ludicrous cash these colleges make off their sports teams it just doesnt seem right.

They have idiotic rules. I remember one player had like no money and wasnt even allowed to have somebody else treat him to dinnerits dumb as shit.

whitelytning posted...

If the school can make money by selling jerseys with the researchers name on them he should get paid too.

Lmao. You don't have a good understanding of how research works at universities, do you?

COVxy posted...

Lmao. You don't have a good understanding of how research works at universities, do you?

Its a response to a dumb argument in the OP. Its supposed to be a ridiculous statement.

They should get their living circumstances and food supplemented at the very least. They should be put up somewhere nice with $500 a month on a food card, at the very very least.

whitelytning posted...

Its a response to a dumb argument in the OP. Its supposed to be a ridiculous statement.

The thing is that when researchers get grants, the university pilfers like 50% of it. So researchers quite literally make the university a bunch of money.

I don't think the players should be paid to play, but I also don't think that the schools should be making the huge amounts of money that they make on them either.

College sports should not be nationally televised super events in massive stadiums with huge marketing campaigns and billion dollar corporate sponsorships behind them and it continues to baffle me that that's what they are in the US.

COVxy posted...

The thing is that when researchers get grants, the university pilfers like 50% of it. So researchers quite literally make the university a bunch of money.

It's definitely frustrating when you're being told that $200k/yr will roughly pay for like 2 grad students and some light professor oversight and you know those students aren't getting paid shit.

It'd be cool if you were the only one.

I'm not a big fan of people making money off the success of others while they get a pittance.

If you're an NCAA athlete, you'd be better off having an academic scholarship or financial aid.

Whether you're the next Michael Jordan or someone that just wants to play a few more years of competitive volleyball, you have to deal with the NCAA's bullshit.

People against this generally think of the few percent of student-athletes that will have a professional sports career and not all the other ones who won't.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

They should get their living circumstances and food supplemented at the very least. They should be put up somewhere nice with $500 a month on a food card, at the very very least.

Wasn't it UConn or something where the basketball team couldn't even afford food every day because of bullshit NCAA rules?

They also don't want to pay kids, and then prevent them from making money in any way. Someone on an academic scholarship could become a millionaire YouTuber on the side, but a college golfer can't accept a free dinner or wash their car with university water because "tHeY'rE aMaTeUrS"

The only reason I'm not on board with it is because you know the colleges will then raise tuition significantly higher on everyone else to now make up for the money they are losing by having to pay the athletes.

It's cute when people act like the top college players weren't getting paid before.

It's a good change to legitimize it.

Gamerguymass posted...

The only reason I'm not on board with it is because you know the colleges will then raise tuition significantly higher on everyone else to now make up for the money they are losing by having to pay the athletes.

You mean the money that is in no way actually funding the university?

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Umbreon posted...

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His main was banned I think lol

I think there was a college football player that couldn't even make youtube videos about his football career and monetize it because of the stupid rule from the NCAA.

In Clemson at least student athletes got free food pretty much everywhere downtown.

I think how closely those rules are followed might vary a great deal.

https://youtu.be/fFdRk2DYolMq

College athletes are prohibited from the following things:
Accepting gifts, including food.
Working an outside job.
Selling their image.
Profiting off playing.

A poor student who manages to make the team can easily be stuck in a situation where their only meals are the ones provided by the team under NAACP rules. They can go a couple days without eating, and they are not even allowed to apply for food stamps or they lose their spot on the team...

Prestoff posted...

I think there was a college football player that couldn't even make youtube videos about his football career and monetize it because of the stupid rule from the NCAA.

And he was just a fucking kicker who knew he didn't have an NFL career waiting in the wings

QassTank posted...

https://youtu.be/fFdRk2DYolMq

College athletes are prohibited from the following things:
Accepting gifts, including food.
Working an outside job.
Selling their image.
Profiting off playing.

A poor student who manages to make the team can easily be stuck in a situation where their only meals are the ones provided by the team under NAACP rules. They can go a couple days without eating, and they are not even allowed to apply for food stamps or they lose their spot on the team...

Okay then don't play. Simple as that.

whitelytning posted...

If the school can make money by selling jerseys with the researchers name on them he should get paid too.

Thats a touchy subject. The school actually cant use the players name on the jersey. Its the number and thats it. Now if someone wants to go and get the name embroidered afterwards they cant stop that.

Same reason why when ncaa football was a game it was the number and not the name.

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He's trying to cut off one of the very few lanes that black people dominate in. People who have been notoriously left behind by their own country and are at a way higher chance of already needing to forgo their dreams to stay home and provide for their family. Rather it's his intention or not. Probably isn't, probably is just ignorant. But none the less, those are the people he's saying "Fuck you, Imma support laws that make it that much harder for you to be able to follow your dreams without potentially putting your families at an even bigger disadvantage" to. Good to see this ignorance thriving in our people.

"Just shut the hell up and make white people more money"

....hmmm. seems very familiar

COVxy posted...

The thing is that when researchers get grants, the university pilfers like 50% of it. So researchers quite literally make the university a bunch of money.

And when TV contracts get signed to show collegiate sports, schools get money. So collegiate players quite literally make the university a bunch of money.

I dont agree with them getting a salary but I believe they should be able to make money off their name i.e. autographs, public appearances, etc

Gamerguymass posted...

The only reason I'm not on board with it is because you know the colleges will then raise tuition significantly higher on everyone else to now make up for the money they are losing by having to pay the athletes.

Something tells me you have no idea how the NIL deals work and how it generally has nothing to do with university money and everything to do with boosters and outside money going to student athletes.

Which had been happening for decades in basketball and football but it's just legal according to NCAA bylaws now.

No they shouldn't get paid. For a sport or not, they go to college to learn just like everyone else. Some will go on to make millions. The rest have a college education to fall back on. Them getting paid during college doesn't make much sense to me.

using college kids to make billions and don't give them shit for it. nice.

MabusIncarnate posted...

No they shouldn't get paid. For a sport or not, they go to college to learn just like everyone else. Some will go on to make millions. The rest have a college education to fall back on. Them getting paid during college doesn't make much sense to me.

Because you think this:

MabusIncarnate posted...

they go to college to learn just like everyone else.

I think everyone bringing in money to the college via sports or research should be getting paid. But only if they're exempt from scholorships as well. Can't be double dipping and all that.

Honestly. Why are shop workers paid? They get the privilege of being in a warm and well lit place, and often with plenty of social interaction - something they wouldn't get otherwise!

End paid work if you really care about the modern world.

whitelytning posted...

Because you think this:

Are they not learning to get better at their respective sport? Is college not a huge part of an athletes development? Maintaining academic grades also can be the difference of staying on a team or not. They get to be around high class coaching that helps teach them along the way also.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Are they not learning to get better at their respective sport? Is college not a huge part of an athletes development? Maintaining academic grades also can be the difference of staying on a team or not. They get to be around high class coaching that helps teach them along the way also.

But like, other people are making money off someone while they can't take any of it for themselves. If anything, the vast majority who don't have a bright future in sports after college are the ones that most deserve payment for their labor. That includes most of the players in major televised sports that rake in the dough. If money is to be made, it should go to all involved. Or there shouldn't be money. Why do television networks and board members/coaching staff deserve all the money? Are there not human beings actually on the field actually doing the athletics that generate the revenue?

You're essentially arguing that employees should only get paid anything at all if their employers choose to do so.

You're also ignoring that college athletes aren't even allowed the freedom of any other students, including others with scholarships. They can't get jobs. They can't make any money outside the school. They can't accept anything free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWoP81YO3V4