Current Events > Obi-Wan is such a good character

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Unironically the best character in Star Wars. I guess it helps that all of his actors were crazy good.

He's OK.

The absolute best.

Is he?

Hans Olo is the best!

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lol nice.

Anyway he is certainly a virtuous character, and he does stuff, but I always felt like he wasn't much more than a support for whoever the main character was. I really don't think that, despite the amount of screen time, that there was any kind of real exploration of his character.

OT: Guides Luke around, dies, continues to guide Luke.
EP1: Follows Quan Chi around, and then once his master dies, Obi-Wan follows his wishes.
EP2: When he's not off doing the Kamino/Geonosis mission, he's picking on Anakin.
EP3: Hangs out with Anakin in the beginning, mostly involving complaining, then goes off to Utapau to swan about with Grievous, then the big showdown.

What does Obi-Wan want? What are his feelings on the Jedi as a whole? Why does he keep going? These things are never explored. I can't even recall them being explored in TCW. The best we can say is that he's a really good Jedi who is basically unshakeable until the end of ROTS.

There's plenty of stuff he does in the movies and shows, but I feel that makes him more of a blank video game protagonist than anything else.

Like it's fine if that's all he is, but I don't think it makes him a "good character".

Prefer the cantina band

CyricZ posted...

lol nice.

Anyway he is certainly a virtuous character, and he does stuff, but I always felt like he wasn't much more than a support for whoever the main character was. I really don't think that, despite the amount of screen time, that there was any kind of real exploration of his character.

OT: Guides Luke around, dies, continues to guide Luke.
EP1: Follows Quan Chi around, and then once his master dies, Obi-Wan follows his wishes.
EP2: When he's not off doing the Kamino/Geonosis mission, he's picking on Anakin.
EP3: Hangs out with Anakin in the beginning, mostly involving complaining, then goes off to Utapau to swan about with Grievous, then the big showdown.

What does Obi-Wan want? What are his feelings on the Jedi as a whole? Why does he keep going? These things are never explored. I can't even recall them being explored in TCW. The best we can say is that he's a really good Jedi who is basically unshakeable until the end of ROTS.

There's plenty of stuff he does in the movies and shows, but I feel that makes him more of a blank video game protagonist than anything else.

Like it's fine if that's all he is, but I don't think it makes him a "good character".

He's the pure embodiment of what a Jedi "should be". Noble and wise, humble, and willing to take action if necessary. Dude shoulders the burden of the entire Jedi council for the most part, because they're too lazy to do things. Gets thrust into the position of raising Anakin after his master dies and takes it on as best he can, coming to love Anakin like a brother, but despite his best efforts he isn't good enough.

He takes L after L in service of the force and never stops trusting in it; his belief is unshakeable and thus he rises above his hardships. He's so sure of himself, the Force, and his place within the galaxy that he willingly steps into the path of a lightsaber blade.

He's far more than a list of accomplishments.

I agree, but until they retcon the sequel trilogy I question whats the point of continuing his or any of the prior trilogy MCs story.

When we already know they amount to nothing in the end. I heard Obi Wan may train a new padawan also. But they weren't be involved around by the sequel trilogy. So wtf is the point?

marthsheretoo posted...

He's the pure embodiment of what a Jedi "should be". Noble and wise, humble, and willing to take action if necessary.

Yeah.

That's kinda boring.

CyricZ posted...

There's plenty of stuff he does in the movies and shows, but I feel that makes him more of a blank video game protagonist than anything else.

Like it's fine if that's all he is, but I don't think it makes him a "good character".

I feel like this describes a significant portion of Star Wars characters, who do you consider to be a good character?

I wouldnt go that far, but he was the saving grace of the prequels.

Ving_Rhames posted...

I feel like this describes a significant portion of Star Wars characters

Yeah I know.

He's a fine character but there's nothing particularly outstanding about him IMO>

CyricZ posted...

Yeah.

That's kinda boring.

It's not, when placed into the context of the prequel trilogy being about the flaws of the Jedi Order, and how they fell short.

And it's not as if those traits are effortless by him. You can see him struggle with them. Obi-Wan is the way he is because he works hard at it.

I dunno, I find his nuance fascinating.

marthsheretoo posted...

It's not

I don't think you get to decide what I find boring or not.

CyricZ posted...

I don't think you get to decide what I find boring or not.

Ah, see, when you said "that's boring", I took that to mean that we were speaking in objective terms about our subjective feelings.

My apologies. I should have been more clear.

He's up there