Current Events > Huge turning point in Russia's War, International Court of Justice makes ruling.

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ncsonic 03/16/22 1:49:44 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1504120775749550081?s=21 --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>ncsonic posted [p:963497284] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1504120775749550081?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/16/22 1:50:32 PM #2:	The chance of Russia abiding by the ruling is probably about zero, but as a symbolic thing it's still nice to see the right decision was made, and hopefully this also allows for measures to be taken against other nations that refuse to condemn Russia. --- No added Trumbles or flavors. <cite>Trumble posted [p:963497308] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>The chance of Russia abiding by the ruling is probably about zero, but as a symbolic thing it's still nice to see the right decision was made, and hopefully this also allows for measures to be taken against other nations that refuse to condemn Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 03/16/22 1:51:43 PM #3:	Russia follow orders? Hahahahahahaha!!! --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 <cite>Strider102 posted [p:963497341] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Russia follow orders? Hahahahahahaha!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 03/16/22 1:53:23 PM #4:	The chance of Russia abiding by the ruling is probably about zero --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. https://tryimg.com/u/2020/08/11/1tZ1gcH.jpg <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:963497404] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote><quote>The chance of Russia abiding by the ruling is probably about zero</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 03/16/22 1:54:13 PM #5:	Huge turning point lmao The ICJ's letter will go into the trash right next to that scathing UN condemnation. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:963497430] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Huge turning point lmao The ICJ's letter will go into the trash right next to that scathing UN condemnation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 03/16/22 1:55:06 PM #6:	ncsonic posted... https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1504120775749550081?s=21 Further isolation hardly seems dramatic at this point. --- Sometimes it's necessary to make people miserable, even if that means making yourself miserable in the process. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:963497459] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>ncsonic posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1504120775749550081?s=21</quote> Further isolation hardly seems dramatic at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 03/16/22 1:55:12 PM #7:	I can't tell if title is meant to be sarcastic or not Either way this means nothing as far as Russia is concerned <cite>Axiom posted [p:963497462] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>I can't tell if title is meant to be sarcastic or not Either way this means nothing as far as Russia is concerned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Clark 03/16/22 1:55:19 PM #8:	Symbolically this is pretty big, but it's not gonna deter Putin in the slightest. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif <cite>Tom Clark posted [p:963497469] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Symbolically this is pretty big, but it's not gonna deter Putin in the slightest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 03/16/22 1:55:35 PM #9:	Yeah, Putin will likely just laugh at this ruling. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:963497474] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Putin will likely just laugh at this ruling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 03/16/22 1:56:17 PM #10:	The thing about laws is they only matter as far as you can enforce them. Theres no organization with actual power that exists above countries so international law only matters if other countries can force you to follow it. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:963497492] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>The thing about laws is they only matter as far as you can enforce them. Theres no organization with actual power that exists above countries so international law only matters if other countries can force you to follow it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 03/16/22 1:56:27 PM #11:	Can we arrest Putin if he was ever found in NATO territory yet? Have we crossed that threshold? --- Sometimes it's necessary to make people miserable, even if that means making yourself miserable in the process. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:963497498] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Can we arrest Putin if he was ever found in NATO territory yet? Have we crossed that threshold? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 03/16/22 1:57:18 PM #12:	"binding under international law" yeah ok <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:963497530] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>"binding under international law" yeah ok </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/16/22 1:57:19 PM #13:	So does this actually mean anything or is it basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework? --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:963497532] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>So does this actually mean anything or is it basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 03/16/22 1:57:58 PM #14:	DrizztLink posted... [It's] basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:963497549] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>[It's] basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 03/16/22 1:58:01 PM #15:	DrizztLink posted... So does this actually mean anything or is it basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework? Big frownie face --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:963497551] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite> <quote>So does this actually mean anything or is it basically a big frownie face sticker on Putin's subpar homework?</quote>Big frownie face </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 2:02:19 PM #16:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/1/AAEhCpAADCPl.jpg <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963497666] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/1/AAEhCpAADCPl.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aressar 03/16/22 2:05:28 PM #17:	No way to actually enforce this ruling. The court could present the case to the UN Security Council, but the fact that Russia has a veto vote on that council makes the whole thing a moo point. So yeah, the only thing NATO and/or UN could do at this point is write Russia a letter, telling them how angry the UN are at Russia. --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. <cite>Aressar posted [p:963497769] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>No way to actually enforce this ruling. The court could present the case to the UN Security Council, but the fact that Russia has a veto vote on that council makes the whole thing a moo point. So yeah, the only thing NATO and/or UN could do at this point is write Russia a letter, telling them how angry the UN are at Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 2:05:57 PM #18:	Hes officially a war criminal now. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963497787] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Hes officially a war criminal now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 03/16/22 2:09:38 PM #19:	I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:963497910] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 03/16/22 2:14:35 PM #20:	Thompson posted... I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers. And how quickly Russia went from "iffy but not really causing significant trouble" to, well, this, is in general a reminder of why veto powers existing at all is kinda bad. --- No added Trumbles or flavors. <cite>Trumble posted [p:963498031] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite> <quote>I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers.</quote>And how quickly Russia went from "iffy but not really causing significant trouble" to, well, this, is in general a reminder of why veto powers existing at all is kinda bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 2:17:00 PM #21:	Thompson posted... I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers. The UN is a relic of the "war reparations" mindset, which is why the permanent security council is the nations who won against Germany and Japan WW2, and France. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963498114] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite> <quote>I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers.</quote>The UN is a relic of the "war reparations" mindset, which is why the permanent security council is the nations who won against Germany and Japan WW2, and France. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aressar 03/16/22 2:19:07 PM #22:	Thompson posted... I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers. I find it troubling that anyone on such a council has veto powers. Regulations like that basically prevent any kind of progress from happening. --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. <cite>Aressar posted [p:963498161] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite> <quote>I find it extremely troubling that a country that's fast tracking itself into becoming a more insane version of North Korea has veto powers.</quote> I find it troubling that anyone on such a council has veto powers. Regulations like that basically prevent any kind of progress from happening. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 03/16/22 2:19:22 PM #23:	Trumble posted... And how quickly Russia went from "iffy but not really causing significant trouble" to, well, this, is in general a reminder of why veto powers existing at all is kinda bad. For some reason I'm glad I'm not the only person who sees it that way. Russia always seemed like they were unimposing but you never knew what their real goals were. At least as far as their populace goes I always thought of them as a decent place. --- Sometimes it's necessary to make people miserable, even if that means making yourself miserable in the process. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:963498169] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite> <quote>And how quickly Russia went from "iffy but not really causing significant trouble" to, well, this, is in general a reminder of why veto powers existing at all is kinda bad.</quote> For some reason I'm glad I'm not the only person who sees it that way. Russia always seemed like they were unimposing but you never knew what their real goals were. At least as far as their populace goes I always thought of them as a decent place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 03/16/22 2:19:51 PM #24:	Aressar posted... No way to actually enforce this ruling. The court could present the case to the UN Security Council, but the fact that Russia has a veto vote on that council makes the whole thing a moo point. They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots. There's no reason for any other country involved to show any respect to Russia. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:963498186] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Aressar posted... </cite> <quote>No way to actually enforce this ruling. The court could present the case to the UN Security Council, but the fact that Russia has a veto vote on that council makes the whole thing a moo point.</quote>They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots. There's no reason for any other country involved to show any respect to Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aressar 03/16/22 2:21:40 PM #25:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots. There's no reason for any other country involved to show any respect to Russia. Couldn't Russia (or any country unwilling to give up its veto) simply veto-block such a change? Kinda like why the U.S. never gets rid of things like the electoral system, winner-takes-all and gerrymandering - because those systems helped putting whoever is in power, in power. --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. <cite>Aressar posted [p:963498230] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots. There's no reason for any other country involved to show any respect to Russia.</quote> Couldn't Russia (or any country unwilling to give up its veto) simply veto-block such a change? Kinda like why the U.S. never gets rid of things like the electoral system, winner-takes-all and gerrymandering - because those systems helped putting whoever is in power, in power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 03/16/22 2:22:04 PM #26:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots. That's not how it works, though --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:963498242] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>They could just change the rules to remove the veto and not be idiots.</quote>That's not how it works, though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kelemvor 03/16/22 2:22:57 PM #27:	The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason. <cite>kelemvor posted [p:963498276] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 03/16/22 2:23:10 PM #28:	Aressar posted... Couldn't Russia (or any country unwilling to give up its veto) simply veto-block such a change? yeah thats kind of the problem of such a stupid rule <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:963498285] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Aressar posted... </cite> <quote>Couldn't Russia (or any country unwilling to give up its veto) simply veto-block such a change?</quote> yeah thats kind of the problem of such a stupid rule </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 03/16/22 2:25:40 PM #29:	Russia can't be allowed to walk back this incursion. We know what they want, but they aren't strong enough to get it yet. Don't give them concessions go away, because they'll just come back stronger next time. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:963498364] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Russia can't be allowed to walk back this incursion. We know what they want, but they aren't strong enough to get it yet. Don't give them concessions go away, because they'll just come back stronger next time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 03/16/22 2:26:12 PM #30:	I guess putin will stop now ~~lol~~ --- Italian, French, German. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:963498381] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>I guess putin will stop now lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 03/16/22 2:28:15 PM #31:	so next up, i'm guessing Putin is gonna call the court a "cabal of Russophobic nazi conspirators" --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:963498445] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>so next up, i'm guessing Putin is gonna call the court a "cabal of Russophobic nazi conspirators" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 2:32:16 PM #32:	Aressar posted... Kinda like why the U.S. never gets rid of things like the electoral system, winner-takes-all and gerrymandering - because those systems helped putting whoever is in power, in power. You can't just "edict" those things away. Ditching the electoral system would require an amendment. First-past-the-post would require the political will to undo, as well as explaining why we should. Gerrymandering is already nominally illegal, except when it's mandatory via the Voting Rights Act, and is constantly challenged when it happens. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963498571] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Aressar posted... </cite> <quote>Kinda like why the U.S. never gets rid of things like the electoral system, winner-takes-all and gerrymandering - because those systems helped putting whoever is in power, in power.</quote>You can't just "edict" those things away. Ditching the electoral system would require an amendment. First-past-the-post would require the political will to undo, as well as explaining why we should. Gerrymandering is already nominally illegal, except when it's mandatory via the Voting Rights Act, and is constantly challenged when it happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 03/16/22 2:34:54 PM #33:	Alucard188 posted... Russia can't be allowed to walk back this incursion. We know what they want, but they aren't strong enough to get it yet. Don't give them concessions go away, because they'll just come back stronger next time. Well, okay, but how can Russia as a society make amends? Overthrow Putin and install a new government? I don't think their people want to be isolated if everything is Putin's doing. --- Sometimes it's necessary to make people miserable, even if that means making yourself miserable in the process. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:963498650] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>Russia can't be allowed to walk back this incursion. We know what they want, but they aren't strong enough to get it yet. Don't give them concessions go away, because they'll just come back stronger next time.</quote> Well, okay, but how can Russia as a society make amends? Overthrow Putin and install a new government? I don't think their people want to be isolated if everything is Putin's doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 03/16/22 2:38:17 PM #34:	well, the last Revolution started cause of a war, it could happen again in theory --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:963498752] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>well, the last Revolution started cause of a war, it could happen again in theory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsuprised_Pika 03/16/22 2:40:12 PM #35:	ROBANN_88 posted... so next up, i'm guessing Putin is gonna call the court a "cabal of Russophobic nazi conspirators" Also considering Russia launched a completely unprovoked war on another nation with complete indifference to civilian casualties(many documented cases of deliberate targeting even beyond mere loose cannon soldiers but from the top down ordered) , is making nuclear threats and their leader seems to be in declining mental health...being afraid of Russia is quite logical. <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:963498804] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite> <quote>so next up, i'm guessing Putin is gonna call the court a "cabal of Russophobic nazi conspirators"</quote> Also considering Russia launched a completely unprovoked war on another nation with complete indifference to civilian casualties(many documented cases of deliberate targeting even beyond mere loose cannon soldiers but from the top down ordered) , is making nuclear threats and their leader seems to be in declining mental health...being afraid of Russia is quite logical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/16/22 2:50:44 PM #36:	This might mean a little more than a strongly worded letter from the UN. Russia is an interpol member so technically they have the authority to go in and start arresting people and sending them to the Hague. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:963499095] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>This might mean a little more than a strongly worded letter from the UN. Russia is an interpol member so technically they have the authority to go in and start arresting people and sending them to the Hague. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 03/16/22 2:52:05 PM #37:	Tyranthraxus posted... This might mean a little more than a strongly worded letter from the UN. Russia is an interpol member so technically they have the authority to go in and start arresting people and sending them to the Hague. That might be interesting if so. Maybe Putin forgot whom he had ties with before he started this campaign. --- Sometimes it's necessary to make people miserable, even if that means making yourself miserable in the process. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:963499134] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>This might mean a little more than a strongly worded letter from the UN. Russia is an interpol member so technically they have the authority to go in and start arresting people and sending them to the Hague.</quote> That might be interesting if so. Maybe Putin forgot whom he had ties with before he started this campaign. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 03/16/22 2:57:02 PM #38:	kelemvor posted... The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason. WTF?!? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:963499260] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>kelemvor posted... </cite> <quote>The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason.</quote> WTF?!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 2:58:01 PM #39:	Ruvan22 posted... WTF?!? Modern war is just terrorism with flags. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963499295] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>WTF?!?</quote>Modern war is just terrorism with flags. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 03/16/22 3:00:28 PM #40:	ICJ is the court that Russia actually recognizes, right? Not that it will change anything, but it's just worth noting at least that this carries more weight than an International Criminal Court (ICC) ruling. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:963499361] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>ICJ is the court that Russia actually recognizes, right? Not that it will change anything, but it's just worth noting at least that this carries more weight than an International Criminal Court (ICC) ruling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 3:01:36 PM #41:	The way this ends will be Puting having a "brain hemorrhage" like Stalin did, when everyone else at the top is sick of his shit. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963499386] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>The way this ends will be Puting having a "brain hemorrhage" like Stalin did, when everyone else at the top is sick of his shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zeppelin4ever42 03/16/22 3:18:47 PM #42:	Solid Sonic posted... Further isolation hardly seems dramatic at this point. The Ruble is worth less than a quarter as much as it was before Russia invaded Crimea. The Russian economy has been shit for years. For perspective, Russia has about 40% of the population of the US, but about 7% of the GDP. The massive corruption as well as the funneling of money to oligarchs instead of reinvestment in the economy/people is why they're so far behind economically. The "fast track to North Korea" should be verbally repeated. Nominal GDP per capita in Russia is 40k Rubles, which is less than $400 per year (US dollar). Russia will have oil, steel, food and lumber, but not much else. They're long term ability to wage war will be even worse as they do not make computer chips at all. As it is their corruption is so bad that troops were trading diesel for liquor and their tires have dry rotted from trucks not being moved or replaced. This isn't even touching upon troops not being briefed on what they're entering into, or perhaps worse, being told they'll be greeted as liberators when even grandmothers are telling them they are unwanted invaders. Given the population of Ukraine rejecting these people as invaders, and the historical relations of the two, this would be motivationally equivalent to the US trying to "free" Canada from the grip of an invader, only to find out that the US was the one trying to exert an iron grip on our northern neighbor. The court ruling itself is not the important part. The important part is this legally makes Russia the equivalent (maybe even more so) of N Korea so that continued sanctions do not violate the WTO (World Trade Organization) and such. kelemvor posted... The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason. Don't forget the tank that drove over an old man in a car, amongst many other war crimes caught on tape. It is a miracle he survived. Questionmarktarius posted... Gerrymandering is already nominally illegal, except when it's mandatory via the Voting Rights Act, and is constantly challenged when it happens. Gerrymandering is only illegal in certain states. --- Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me Father forgive them for they know not what they do <cite>zeppelin4ever42 posted [p:963499948] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted... </cite> <quote>Further isolation hardly seems dramatic at this point.</quote>The Ruble is worth less than a quarter as much as it was before Russia invaded Crimea. The Russian economy has been shit for years. For perspective, Russia has about 40% of the population of the US, but about 7% of the GDP. The massive corruption as well as the funneling of money to oligarchs instead of reinvestment in the economy/people is why they're so far behind economically. The "fast track to North Korea" should be verbally repeated. Nominal GDP per capita in Russia is 40k Rubles, which is less than $400 per year (US dollar). Russia will have oil, steel, food and lumber, but not much else. They're long term ability to wage war will be even worse as they do not make computer chips at all. As it is their corruption is so bad that troops were trading diesel for liquor and their tires have dry rotted from trucks not being moved or replaced. This isn't even touching upon troops not being briefed on what they're entering into, or perhaps worse, being told they'll be greeted as liberators when even grandmothers are telling them they are unwanted invaders. Given the population of Ukraine rejecting these people as invaders, and the historical relations of the two, this would be motivationally equivalent to the US trying to "free" Canada from the grip of an invader, only to find out that the US was the one trying to exert an iron grip on our northern neighbor. The court ruling itself is not the important part. The important part is this legally makes Russia the equivalent (maybe even more so) of N Korea so that continued sanctions do not violate the WTO (World Trade Organization) and such. kelemvor posted... </cite> <quote>The Idiots in Russia are waging a war like it's 1922 and not 2022. They are forgetting that cameras and drones are everywhere, documenting everything for the World to see. Did you see the drone that got footage of the Russian troops stopping a car? The Dad gets out with his hands up. They shoot him, then take his terrified Wife and kid into the woods... Never to be seen again. That's not "Ukrainian Proppoganda" or disinformation... It was caught on camera. Also I heard a dozen or so civilians were waiting in a bread line today and some Russians mowed them all down for no reason.</quote>Don't forget the tank that drove over an old man in a car, amongst many other war crimes caught on tape. It is a miracle he survived. Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Gerrymandering is already nominally illegal, except when it's mandatory via the Voting Rights Act, and is constantly challenged when it happens.</quote>Gerrymandering is only illegal in certain states. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/16/22 3:52:04 PM #43:	zeppelin4ever42 posted... Given the population of Ukraine rejecting these people as invaders, and the historical relations of the two, this would be motivationally equivalent to the US trying to "free" Canada from the grip of an invader, only to find out that the US was the one trying to exert an iron grip on our northern neighbor. The historical relationship between Russia and Ukraine is just about as worse as it can possibly get for two countries. It's even worse than China / Taiwan or Tibet. You'd have to go pretty far back into history to find a conflict with this much blood up on the stakes. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:963500900] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>zeppelin4ever42 posted... </cite> <quote>Given the population of Ukraine rejecting these people as invaders, and the historical relations of the two, this would be motivationally equivalent to the US trying to "free" Canada from the grip of an invader, only to find out that the US was the one trying to exert an iron grip on our northern neighbor.</quote> The historical relationship between Russia and Ukraine is just about as worse as it can possibly get for two countries. It's even worse than China / Taiwan or Tibet. You'd have to go pretty far back into history to find a conflict with this much blood up on the stakes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zeppelin4ever42 03/16/22 4:06:18 PM #44:	Tyranthraxus posted... The historical relationship between Russia and Ukraine is just about as worse as it can possibly get for two countries. It's even worse than China / Taiwan or Tibet. You'd have to go pretty far back into history to find a conflict with this much blood up on the stakes. Yeah, there really is no good comparison for the US really, at least not in the modern era. There is so much blood. --- Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me Father forgive them for they know not what they do <cite>zeppelin4ever42 posted [p:963501354] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>The historical relationship between Russia and Ukraine is just about as worse as it can possibly get for two countries. It's even worse than China / Taiwan or Tibet. You'd have to go pretty far back into history to find a conflict with this much blood up on the stakes.</quote>Yeah, there really is no good comparison for the US really, at least not in the modern era. There is so much blood. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/16/22 4:09:21 PM #45:	zeppelin4ever42 posted... Yeah, there really is no good comparison for the US really, at least not in the modern era. Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963501465] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>zeppelin4ever42 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, there really is no good comparison for the US really, at least not in the modern era. </quote>Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 03/16/22 4:12:36 PM #46:	Questionmarktarius posted... Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada. I think it's more analagous to the US invading Mexico. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:963501575] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada.</quote>I think it's more analagous to the US invading Mexico. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/16/22 4:16:35 PM #47:	Questionmarktarius posted... Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada. Maybe from a strictly military might perspective. Politically this is more like The Vietnam war. Except imagine that before the Vietnam war started Americans salted the earth around Vietnam and isolated them from all their neighbors, killing them by the millions indiscriminately and actively blocked any help from arriving into the country. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:963501678] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Russia invading Ukraine is effectively the US invading Canada.</quote> Maybe from a strictly military might perspective. Politically this is more like The Vietnam war. Except imagine that before the Vietnam war started Americans salted the earth around Vietnam and isolated them from all their neighbors, killing them by the millions indiscriminately and actively blocked any help from arriving into the country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kelemvor 03/16/22 11:30:06 PM #48:	Ruvan22 posted... WTF?!? I won't put a direct link to the poor father getting shot because it's kind of graphic, but you can easily find it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-troops-ukraine-kill-10-cherihiv-bread-line-us-embassy-says/ <cite>kelemvor posted [p:963513417] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>WTF?!?</quote> I won't put a direct link to the poor father getting shot because it's kind of graphic, but you can easily find it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-troops-ukraine-kill-10-cherihiv-bread-line-us-embassy-says/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 03/17/22 10:24:22 AM #49:	KamenRiderBlade posted... I think it's more analagous to the US invading Mexico. I think Canada was used because Americans are likely to think Canadians are basically the same as us, which is like how Russians thought Ukrainians were basically the same as them. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:963523064] in Huge turni... [t:79945431]...</cite> <quote>KamenRiderBlade posted... </cite> <quote>I think it's more analagous to the US invading Mexico.</quote>I think Canada was used because Americans are likely to think Canadians are basically the same as us, which is like how Russians thought Ukrainians were basically the same as them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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