Board 8 > Final Fantasy 14 Mafia - Day 5: Close in the Distance

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In the night...

Mzero has been killed! He was...Y'shtola, TOWN Flavor Cop
Your ability is to use Aethersense! Err, I think thats what its calleddont google that at work. Each night, you can select one person to scan. By reading their Aether, you will learn who they are, and be given their flavor! (Flavor is their character name. Example: Yshtola)

Additionally, you have the ability to Catnap! Once in the game, if you are feeling super unsafe, you can elect to exit the game. (You can use your aethersense ability on the same night you choose to do this) The next morning you will leave the game as a potentially dead player, but your flavor and alignment will not be revealed. You will not be allowed to post this entire day you are absent. The next night you will be untargetable since you are not in the game, but you can still use your aethersense ability. The next morning , you will then be introduced back into the game.

THE LIVING
1.Red
2.Crescent
3.Isquen
4.Tidus
5.Plum

THE DEAD
1. [LD1]Shonen - Haurchefant, TOWN Bodyguard
2. [KN1]Death - Quin69, TOWN Vanilla
3.[LD2]Ulti - The Warrior of Light, TOWN Bulletproof
4. [KN2]Banana - Alphinaud and Alisaie, TOWN Twins
5. [LD3]Scare - Lahabrea, MAFIA Possessor
6.[KN3]Chris - Thancred, TOWN Motion Detector
7.[LD4]Mike - Zenos, THIRD PARTY Combat-sexual
8.[KN4]Mzero - Y'shtola, TOWN

WITH 5 ALIVE, IT TAKES 3 VOTES TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS SATURDAY AT 8PM EST

....You're nearing the end now. Hang in there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xYa2_qNNT8

I'm not particularly thrilled in this situation, but we did learn one thing from that lynch. It is possible for plum to be scum and to have been targeted by Tavish.

This is why you never leash third parties.

I guess I'll have dinner while I wait for someone to show up.

Because unless I'm mistaken, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Tavish did not disclose any targeting prior.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/2/AABEJEAAC6XO.jpg

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Crescent-Moon posted...

This is why you never leash third parties.

I guess I'll have dinner while I wait for someone to show up.

I mean, the time to kill him would have been the gladiate. I'm still not a fan of that lynch because we lost mzeros shield.

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not particularly thrilled in this situation, but we did learn one thing from that lynch. It is possible for plum to be scum and to have been targeted by Tavish.

We learned he faked the "aether scan" on Isquen, because he thought Isquen was scum and was trying to protect him.

Crescent-Moon posted...

We learned he faked the "aether scan" on Isquen, because he thought Isquen was scum and was trying to protect him.

I think we got around to it, but we were going to take his scans with a grain of salt today anyway.

Crescent-Moon posted...

We learned he faked the "aether scan" on Isquen, because he thought Isquen was scum and was trying to protect him.

Good point

Isquen and red are my top susness right now, plum is also pretty sus

TidusOfTheX posted...

Good point

Isquen and red are my top susness right now, plum is also pretty sus

If you think Mother Porxie is scum i will hate you forever.

Hard confirmation > Grain of Salt

Crescent-Moon posted...

Hard confirmation > Grain of Salt

Yes. Just give me that it could have been worse for us if bens fuckery is different.

Leafeon13N posted...

Yes. Just give me that it could have been worse for us if bens fuckery is different.

I get where you were coming from.

I just think certainty was the best play.

Also going to point out Tavish was initially going for the town win condition with town down one.

To be honest, if I got his role and I wanted the town win con, i claim it immediately to open the game, confirm the WoL, and then die.

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Leafeon13N posted...

Also going to point out Tavish was initially going for the town win condition with town down one.

And it was sure convenient for him to fall back on this repeatedly.

Anyway. Having gotten to sit on it and how just atrociously antitown some of his posts have been, plum is probably just scum.

It felt like he was trying to claim vig but with the flips we've seen i dont think i buy it.

But I'm curious to hear what hes going say hes hiding.

One thing to point out, with the random target and potential town win con of Zenos, I would wager that scum was likely ignorant to the roles existence.

Leafeon13N posted...

Anyway. Having gotten to sit on it and how just atrociously antitown some of his posts have been, plum is probably just scum.

It felt like he was trying to claim vig but with the flips we've seen i dont think i buy it.

But I'm curious to hear what hes going say hes hiding.

An issue: Plum is the only one in the entire game to claim being RBed, but I don't think I've ever seen a scumteam not have a roleblocker.

So where did the roleblocks go if he's scum?

Similarly tempted to claim plum due to lack of anything role related, and if you think I'm being scum when I literally tried to put myself into jeopardy over Tidus to prove Crescent's power last night (while simultaneously being bad at math) you're sorely mistaken.

Mostly I'm concerned with someone claiming healer and NOT getting instantly murdered. Red, who'd you target last night?

Also on the forefront of my thoughts: I can actually buy Tidus being villager now if we go by the "presuming three villager" rule because that's... literally what I am, but worse. Not that anyone believes me at this point (scum keeping me alive as a stool pigeon still, WHY AM I STILL IN THIS FARCE.)

Plum, also, what'd you do last night? Good to answer, since I safely presume mislynching wins the game for scum.

Crescent-Moon posted...

So where did the roleblocks go if he's scum?

What roleblocks?

Isquen posted...

Similarly tempted to claim plum due to lack of anything role related, and if you think I'm being scum when I literally tried to put myself into jeopardy over Tidus to prove Crescent's power last night (while simultaneously being bad at math) you're sorely mistaken.

Scum would know my power is legitimate. Town wouldn't. Scum in that situation has nothing to fear about my power not going off.

We dont exactly have a powerhouse town necessitating blocking. The only real power role is flavor scanner and we already had one scum role that would be ambiguous to them.

Leafeon13N posted...

What roleblocks?

I've never seen a scumteam not have a roleblocker. Plum claimed roleblocked both night 1 and night 3.

Chris cant confirm for certain anyone, and we dont even know that I'm not just a vanilla that can target things at this point.

Something that also might have been missed: Ulti would have gained nothing by winning the duel.

Leafeon13N posted...

Something that also might have been missed: Ulti would have gained nothing by winning the duel.

I'm not sure this is particularly relevant?

Crescent-Moon posted...

I'm not sure this is particularly relevant?

If you might have been thinking town was stronger than it is.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Scum would know my power is legitimate. Town wouldn't. Scum in that situation has nothing to fear about my power not going off.

Exactly. I didn't know, hence why I tried to put myself in jeopardy to prove it (only to find out self-votes don't count.)

Current sidecar on the train of thought - Mzero confirmed Mother Porxie (after the fact) but MP might have additional flavor at the end, like "but the Ascians are murderous, tempering will not be their goal, so this role does nothing."

Also, Mike, well played, you bastard.

Leafeon13N posted...

Something that also might have been missed: Ulti would have gained nothing by winning the duel.

Also, if I read flavor correctly, even by being targeted he would have lost his Bulletproof.

Isquen posted...

Exactly. I didn't know, hence why I tried to put myself in jeopardy to prove it (only to find out self-votes don't count.)

Or you just wanted to give the impression.

It's WIFOM.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Or you just wanted to give the impression.

It's WIFOM.

Can I invoke the sacred rite of "trust me, bro"?

It says "If Zenos finds you and targets you", which does suggest it could be either from the scan or the challenge.

Dumbest role of all time.

I was going to post that regardless of if I died or not. What a stupid role. I could go on all day about how stupid it is.

Anyways, I think we kill isquen as mike was trying to protect him. Unsure about tidus vs red.

I was blocked again, and I suppose I might as well claim at this point as it isn't getting better.

Hildebrand Manderville! TOWN Motion Detector

I target someone and see if they move or not

N1 Death
N2 Scare
N3 Red
N4 Tidus

N2 being the only one that I got off, I actually bread crumbed it and said something like I was moved to vote scare or something. I would have to find it

I'm going back to the CK3 Expansion. I wasn't motivated, then I kinda got into this game, and now I'm out again.

Jesters are banned for a reason, and Mikes role fooled me because it was a literal Jester. He was actually fine dying because it literally didn't matter at that point

That's the exact same role as what Chris claimed with a different claimed power.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hm.

Well no one has stepped forward so it is probably the case that somehow plum is town who indeed got targeted by scum. Curious. Sadly I am just a motion detector. Plum n1 and red n2. No one bothered with red n2

DoomTheGyarados posted...
Really thought plum was scum guess he just forgot how to play mafia. I mean fair enough

[KN3]Chris - Thancred, TOWN Motion Detector

Like, what?

Its possible they essentially tried to triple claim that at this point.

And all the fucking suspicion thrown on me, too when I claimed something similar despite admitting I was bullshitting.

I forget, did Chris's motion detector power pick up just someone *visiting* or someone *leaving*? Because I've heard no other claims of getting role blocked so far have occurred, and I wonder if Chris picked up someone leaving to go murder. Or plum themself roleblocking... themself. I've seen stranger things in other style games.

Isquen posted...

And all the fucking suspicion thrown on me, too when I claimed something similar despite admitting I was bullshitting.

I forget, did Chris's motion detector power pick up just someone *visiting* or someone *leaving*? Because I've heard no other claims of getting role blocked so far have occurred, and I wonder if Chris picked up someone leaving to go murder. Or plum themself roleblocking... themself. I've seen stranger things in other style games.

Chris claimed the exact opposite of what Plum is claiming. Chris catching Plum getting targeted by someone has kept him going.

Actually thanks for the reminder Isquen.

Why make that claim in the first place?

I wanted to feel important ;_;

Isquen posted...

I wanted to feel important ;_;

Everybody does

Leafeon13N posted...

Its possible they essentially tried to triple claim that at this point.

Plum's attitude is strikingly different from yesterday.. Following what was effectively a scum lynch that broke the pseudo-confirmation Chris provided him.

The moral of the story is: Lynch third parties.

I detect if the target moved. I believe chris targeted if someone targeted the target

I guess we have the same name? Funny. Probably a meta trap. Hilariously the two people who got it are probably the two players least likely to fall into that

Are identically named roles with different powers even allowed in a setup?

Crescent-Moon posted...

The moral of the story is: Lynch third parties.

I always say this, but because he was genuinely suicidal I assumed we could trust him.

Nope. Jester role. Literally. Suppose we had killed 3 scum in a row before he targeted Ulti. He would be a literal jester. If he dies then he wins on the spot

Crescent-Moon posted...

Are identically named roles with different powers even allowed in a setup?

No, that would be a terrible thing to do that I would never let a host do if I was refusing a setup.

So of course

Mike's role was ill-conceived at best, I don't think anyone is denying that.