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UnfairRepresent 02/09/22 7:06:56 AM #1:	A Las Vegas bartender has filed a lawsuit against his employers for allegedly being forced to pay back money that was robbed from the business at gunpoint. Edward Parker, 42, was finishing his shift at Lodge Hualapai on 4 December 2020 when a gunman entered the bar and pointed his weapon at him. Mr Parker was forced to kneel on the ground with his hands on his head while the gunman took all the cash available at the counter, the lawsuit said. The intruder allegedly made off with nearly $4,000 (around 3,000). Edward was terrified during the ordeal and feared for his life, the lawsuit said. However, hours later, his employers told him it was his job to pay the money back. They offered him a repayment contract and forced him to work in unfavourable conditions, the lawsuit said. It added that Mr Parker was worried about losing his job and therefore signed it. Over the next few months, an amount of $300 was reportedly deducted from each paycheck until it equalled the amount stolen by the gunman. The lawsuit also said that this harassment by his employers led him to major anxiety and panic attacks. However, he had no option but to continue working, he said in the lawsuit. His ordeal did not end with the repayment. He was later demoted to extra board status, which meant that he would be called in for work only when the bar required it, instead of having a regular job. For months, he did not get any work and now lives outside the state. Two people were arrested in connection with the robbery. The lawsuit stated that no evidence was found by the police of Mr Parkers involvement in the incident. There is no evidence whatsoever that Edward knew these individuals or had anything to do with their actions, the complaint said. This isnt the first time The Lodge, which is made up of several restaurant locations across the Las Vegas Valley, has faced a lawsuit. In 2016, the company was sued by past employees who alleged that they were paid below the minimum wage. Full Article: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/barman-money-stolen-boss-gunpoint-b2010912.html https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/5/AAZiH8AAC58P.jpg Republican wet dream --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:962489261] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>A Las Vegas bartender has filed a lawsuit against his employers for allegedly being forced to pay back money that was robbed from the business at gunpoint. Edward Parker, 42, was finishing his shift at Lodge Hualapai on 4 December 2020 when a gunman entered the bar and pointed his weapon at him. Mr Parker was forced to kneel on the ground with his hands on his head while the gunman took all the cash available at the counter, the lawsuit said. The intruder allegedly made off with nearly $4,000 (around 3,000). Edward was terrified during the ordeal and feared for his life, the lawsuit said. However, hours later, his employers told him it was his job to pay the money back. They offered him a repayment contract and forced him to work in unfavourable conditions, the lawsuit said. It added that Mr Parker was worried about losing his job and therefore signed it. Over the next few months, an amount of $300 was reportedly deducted from each paycheck until it equalled the amount stolen by the gunman. The lawsuit also said that this harassment by his employers led him to major anxiety and panic attacks. However, he had no option but to continue working, he said in the lawsuit. His ordeal did not end with the repayment. He was later demoted to extra board status, which meant that he would be called in for work only when the bar required it, instead of having a regular job. For months, he did not get any work and now lives outside the state. Two people were arrested in connection with the robbery. The lawsuit stated that no evidence was found by the police of Mr Parkers involvement in the incident. There is no evidence whatsoever that Edward knew these individuals or had anything to do with their actions, the complaint said. This isnt the first time The Lodge, which is made up of several restaurant locations across the Las Vegas Valley, has faced a lawsuit. In 2016, the company was sued by past employees who alleged that they were paid below the minimum wage. Full Article: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/barman-money-stolen-boss-gunpoint-b2010912.html https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/5/AAZiH8AAC58P.jpg Republican wet dream </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 7:09:16 AM #2:	fucking lol, owners of the bar need to be put in prison and the bartender deserves a big payday --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962489286] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>fucking lol, owners of the bar need to be put in prison and the bartender deserves a big payday </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 02/09/22 7:12:06 AM #3:	Pfft, typical Ed. Getting robbed and giving kompany money away. Where do they fing guys like these? --- https://i.imgur.com/PpxZDof.png \| https://i.imgur.com/xMGLcGE.png https://i.imgur.com/nsBw6Sy.png \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:962489317] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Pfft, typical Ed. Getting robbed and giving kompany money away. Where do they fing guys like these? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:12:50 AM #4:	UnfairRepresent posted... Republican wet dream I think the Republican wet dream would have been shooting the robber if I'm not mistaken. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489323] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Republican wet dream</quote>I think the Republican wet dream would have been shooting the robber if I'm not mistaken. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 02/09/22 7:13:47 AM #5:	That's fucked. Most businesses policy is to give em what they want. I remember a bank teller who got fired cause he shot a would be bank robber. The one time I agreed and found it hilarious a armed robbery of a store got the man shot was when a dude walked into the wrong store to rob. Meant to go into a jewelry store but walked into the gun store next door. Everyone unloaded on him --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:962489331] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>That's fucked. Most businesses policy is to give em what they want. I remember a bank teller who got fired cause he shot a would be bank robber. The one time I agreed and found it hilarious a armed robbery of a store got the man shot was when a dude walked into the wrong store to rob. Meant to go into a jewelry store but walked into the gun store next door. Everyone unloaded on him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtremeLuchador 02/09/22 7:14:13 AM #6:	A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:962489335] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:15:44 AM #7:	ExtremeLuchador posted... A lot of businesses do this. I've never heard of anything like this. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489348] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of businesses do this.</quote>I've never heard of anything like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/09/22 7:17:25 AM #8:	And they say workers are entitled. This employer wanted their worker to risk their life, and maybe even sacrifice it, for those precious dollars. Them there's paying people less than minimum wage. Seems like a bunch of scumbags there. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:962489361] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>And they say workers are entitled. This employer wanted their worker to risk their life, and maybe even sacrifice it, for those precious dollars. Them there's paying people less than minimum wage. Seems like a bunch of scumbags there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 02/09/22 7:19:06 AM #9:	They offered him a repayment contract That's not going to work out well for him, having agreed to the whole thing, but no one would want to mention that. --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. http://i.imgur.com/jo511lG.jpg <cite>deupd_u posted [p:962489377] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>They offered him a repayment contract That's not going to work out well for him, having agreed to the whole thing, but no one would want to mention that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 02/09/22 7:20:24 AM #10:	ExtremeLuchador posted... A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state. Than, not then. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:962489403] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state.</quote>Than, not then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 7:22:37 AM #11:	deupd_u posted... They offered him a repayment contract That's not going to work out well for him, having agreed to the whole thing, but no one would want to mention that. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/7/AAeEQXAAC58R.jpg It was mentioned in the OP. --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962489433] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>deupd_u posted... </cite> <quote>They offered him a repayment contract That's not going to work out well for him, having agreed to the whole thing, but no one would want to mention that.</quote> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/7/AAeEQXAAC58R.jpg It was mentioned in the OP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Clark 02/09/22 7:22:59 AM #12:	Kegran posted... I've never heard of anything like this. Me either. Hell, some of the bar jobs I had when I was younger explicitly had "hand over the money if someone tries to rob you" as a part of the training. --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif <cite>Tom Clark posted [p:962489438] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>I've never heard of anything like this.</quote> Me either. Hell, some of the bar jobs I had when I was younger explicitly had "hand over the money if someone tries to rob you" as a part of the training. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/09/22 7:23:50 AM #13:	Your first mistake was replying to him --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:962489447] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Your first mistake was replying to him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 7:25:32 AM #14:	Tom Clark posted... Me either. Hell, some of the bar jobs I had when I was younger explicitly had "hand over the money if someone tries to rob you" as a part of the training. Yeah, literally every job Ive had with a till bartending or otherwise had this as a rule. UnfairRepresent posted... Your first mistake was replying to him True --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962489465] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Tom Clark posted... </cite> <quote>Me either. Hell, some of the bar jobs I had when I was younger explicitly had "hand over the money if someone tries to rob you" as a part of the training.</quote> Yeah, literally every job Ive had with a till bartending or otherwise had this as a rule. UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Your first mistake was replying to him</quote> True </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 7:25:40 AM #15:	ExtremeLuchador posted... A lot of businesses do this. "A lot" of businesses do not do this. Because it's illegal. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489466] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of businesses do this.</quote> "A lot" of businesses do not do this. Because it's illegal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtremeLuchador 02/09/22 7:26:22 AM #17:	You'll occasionally hear a gas station owner claim "well you handed over the money too quickly on the camera so you must've been involved." --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:962489474] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>You'll occasionally hear a gas station owner claim "well you handed over the money too quickly on the camera so you must've been involved." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/09/22 7:29:04 AM #18:	Kegran posted... I think the Republican wet dream would have been shooting the robber if I'm not mistaken. True, but forcing an employee into bondage is a close second for them. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:962489509] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>I think the Republican wet dream would have been shooting the robber if I'm not mistaken.</quote>True, but forcing an employee into bondage is a close second for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 02/09/22 7:29:52 AM #19:	ExtremeLuchador posted... You'll occasionally hear a gas station owner claim "well you handed over the money too quickly on the camera so you must've been involved." My mom knew a guy who got arrested for being involved. He apparently had a habit of coming to work in the middle of the night (he was a manager) and sleeping there so if he overslept the employees knocking on the door would wake him up. Well they found him tied up in the stock room one morning and the place robbed. They just assumed cause he was there when he shouldn't have been he was an inside guy --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:962489522] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>You'll occasionally hear a gas station owner claim "well you handed over the money too quickly on the camera so you must've been involved."</quote> My mom knew a guy who got arrested for being involved. He apparently had a habit of coming to work in the middle of the night (he was a manager) and sleeping there so if he overslept the employees knocking on the door would wake him up. Well they found him tied up in the stock room one morning and the place robbed. They just assumed cause he was there when he shouldn't have been he was an inside guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:29:55 AM #20:	TheOtherMike posted... "A lot" of businesses do not do this. Because it's illegal. It's actually not illegal if he signed an agreement, but it's scummy. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489523] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>"A lot" of businesses do not do this. Because it's illegal.</quote>It's actually not illegal if he signed an agreement, but it's scummy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/09/22 7:31:08 AM #21:	The_Korey posted... Pfft, typical Ed. Getting robbed and giving kompany money away. Where do they fing guys like these? The economy is fucked and people are desperate. The minority with money are aware of this and take full advantage. The bartender could have been replaced overnight so he has to follow orders or risk his own security and health. Workers are cogs. Welcome to Capitalism. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:962489542] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>The_Korey posted... </cite> <quote>Pfft, typical Ed. Getting robbed and giving kompany money away. Where do they fing guys like these?</quote>The economy is fucked and people are desperate. The minority with money are aware of this and take full advantage. The bartender could have been replaced overnight so he has to follow orders or risk his own security and health. Workers are cogs. Welcome to Capitalism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 7:31:33 AM #22:	Kegran posted... It's actually not illegal if he signed an agreement, but it's scummy. False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489549] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>It's actually not illegal if he signed an agreement, but it's scummy.</quote> False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 02/09/22 7:37:18 AM #23:	TheOtherMike posted... False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law. what is illegal about him agreeing to pay back the money? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:962489623] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law.</quote> what is illegal about him agreeing to pay back the money? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:40:27 AM #24:	TheOtherMike posted... False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law. You're going to need to do a google search like I did before saying "false". Though, it certainly sounds like something that should be illegal. Edit: Also you must live in the US for this to be true, so there's that as well. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489658] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>False. You can't enforce a contract that violates the law.</quote>You're going to need to do a google search like I did before saying "false". Though, it certainly sounds like something that should be illegal. Edit: Also you must live in the US for this to be true, so there's that as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 7:44:11 AM #25:	Fam_Fam posted... what is illegal about him agreeing to pay back the money? There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed. Kegran posted... You're going to need to do a google search like I did before saying "false". I did, but I already knew it was illegal before this story because I've managed restaurants. Kegran posted... Also you must live in the US for this to be true, so there's that as well. I do, as do the bartender and bar in this story. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489698] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>what is illegal about him agreeing to pay back the money?</quote> There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>You're going to need to do a google search like I did before saying "false".</quote> I did, but I already knew it was illegal before this story because I've managed restaurants. Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>Also you must live in the US for this to be true, so there's that as well.</quote> I do, as do the bartender and bar in this story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:45:23 AM #26:	TheOtherMike posted... There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed. Unless an agreement is signed. I'm not even pushing the issue any further. Bye. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489712] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed.</quote>Unless an agreement is signed. I'm not even pushing the issue any further. Bye. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pick4six 02/09/22 7:47:20 AM #27:	ExtremeLuchador posted... A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state. No they dont, stop trying normalize evil and illegal shit --- Bitcoin! <cite>pick4six posted [p:962489735] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of businesses do this. People would rather pay it back then be fired in an at-will state.</quote>No they dont, stop trying normalize evil and illegal shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 7:47:59 AM #28:	Kegran posted... Unless an agreement is signed. You have no idea what you're talking about. You cannot legally "agree" to something illegal. The "agreement" is automatically null if it involves violating the law, and it is illegal to require employees to replace robbed money. You are wrong @Kegran. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489739] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>Unless an agreement is signed.</quote> You have no idea what you're talking about. You cannot legally "agree" to something illegal. The "agreement" is automatically null if it involves violating the law, and it is illegal to require employees to replace robbed money. You are wrong @Kegran. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 02/09/22 7:50:12 AM #29:	TheOtherMike posted... There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed. I did, but I already knew it was illegal before this story because I've managed restaurants. I do, as do the bartender and bar in this story. he wasn't forced, they asked him to repay it, and he said yes. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:962489765] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>There are laws that prohibit an employer from forcing employees to repay money that was robbed. I did, but I already knew it was illegal before this story because I've managed restaurants. I do, as do the bartender and bar in this story.</quote> he wasn't forced, they asked him to repay it, and he said yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 7:52:11 AM #30:	Fam_Fam posted... he wasn't forced, they asked him to repay it, and he said yes. False. Also irrelevant. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489786] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>he wasn't forced, they asked him to repay it, and he said yes.</quote> False. Also irrelevant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 7:59:04 AM #31:	Contracts that lead to illegal activities are null, how is this not common knowledge? --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962489876] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Contracts that lead to illegal activities are null, how is this not common knowledge? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 7:59:51 AM #32:	TheOtherMike posted... You have no idea what you're talking about. You cannot legally "agree" to something illegal. The "agreement" is automatically null if it involves violating the law, and it is illegal to require employees to replace robbed money. You are wrong @Kegran. https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com /employment-and-labor-laws/states/arizona/wage-payment/#deductions-from-wages Not wrong. Remove space. Thanks. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962489886] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>You have no idea what you're talking about. You cannot legally "agree" to something illegal. The "agreement" is automatically null if it involves violating the law, and it is illegal to require employees to replace robbed money. You are wrong @Kegran.</quote>https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com /employment-and-labor-laws/states/arizona/wage-payment/#deductions-from-wages Not wrong. Remove space. Thanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 8:02:08 AM #33:	https://www.rocketlawyer.com/business-and-contracts/service-contracts/business-service-contracts/legal-guide/signing-under-duress- can-you-be-forced-to-sign-a-contract `shortened link`: https://bit.ly/3B6VPcS --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962489910] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>https://www.rocketlawyer.com/business-and-contracts/service-contracts/business-service-contracts/legal-guide/signing-under-duress- can-you-be-forced-to-sign-a-contract shortened link: https://bit.ly/3B6VPcS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 8:05:56 AM #35:	Kegran posted... https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com /employment-and-labor-laws/states/arizona/wage-payment/#deductions-from-wages Not wrong. Remove space. Thanks. Edit: It was Las Vegas. Why'd I think it was AZ? Any way, still not wrong and not wrong in most states: https://www.nevadaemployers.org/making-payroll-deductions-in-nevada/ This doesnt say what you think it says. You're still wrong, about both states. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962489959] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com /employment-and-labor-laws/states/arizona/wage-payment/#deductions-from-wages Not wrong. Remove space. Thanks. Edit: It was Las Vegas. Why'd I think it was AZ? Any way, still not wrong and not wrong in most states: https://www.nevadaemployers.org/making-payroll-deductions-in-nevada/</quote> This doesnt say what you think it says. You're still wrong, about both states. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 8:11:12 AM #36:	https://www.upcounsel.com/illegal-contract An illegal contract is an agreement that violates the law because its fulfillment requires the parties to engage in illegal activity. Such a contract is void and unenforceable from the get-go. Thus, if the contract is breached, neither party will be entitled to any compensation or held liable. This right here is why "signing an agreement" means fuck all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with. If the law already says that employees can't be required to repay robbed money, no "agreement" that anyone signs can circumvent that. The "agreement" is legally void. @Kegran @Fam_Fam <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962490038] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>https://www.upcounsel.com/illegal-contract <quote>An illegal contract is an agreement that violates the law because its fulfillment requires the parties to engage in illegal activity. Such a contract is void and unenforceable from the get-go. Thus, if the contract is breached, neither party will be entitled to any compensation or held liable.</quote> This right here is why "signing an agreement" means fuck all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with. If the law already says that employees can't be required to repay robbed money, no "agreement" that anyone signs can circumvent that. The "agreement" is legally void. @Kegran @Fam_Fam </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/09/22 8:30:55 AM #37:	Should have made this a poll. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:962490324] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Should have made this a poll. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 8:32:13 AM #38:	TheOtherMike posted... This right here is why "signing an agreement" means f* all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with. I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws. The guy who cited duress as an issue has a point though. Who in their right mind would sign such a contract unless it was under duress. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962490338] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>This right here is why "signing an agreement" means f* all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with.</quote>I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws. The guy who cited duress as an issue has a point though. Who in their right mind would sign such a contract unless it was under duress. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 8:39:09 AM #39:	Kegran posted... I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws. Oh, you're trolling. Tagging appropriately, thanks for letting me know. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962490417] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws.</quote> Oh, you're trolling. Tagging appropriately, thanks for letting me know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 02/09/22 8:46:19 AM #40:	TheOtherMike posted... https://www.upcounsel.com/illegal-contract This right here is why "signing an agreement" means fuck all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with. If the law already says that employees can't be required to repay robbed money, no "agreement" that anyone signs can circumvent that. The "agreement" is legally void. @Kegran @Fam_Fam where is your evidence that he was required to repay it? from what I can tell, he was asked to repay it, and he said yes, I agree, and will sign an agreement that indicates that. you saying it is illegal is contingent on the premise that he was forced to agree to it. did they threaten him? did they say they would fire him if he did not sign it? if that was the case, then you'd have an argument. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:962490516] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.upcounsel.com/illegal-contract This right here is why "signing an agreement" means fuck all when the agreement isn't legal to begin with. If the law already says that employees can't be required to repay robbed money, no "agreement" that anyone signs can circumvent that. The "agreement" is legally void. @Kegran @Fam_Fam</quote> where is your evidence that he was required to repay it? from what I can tell, he was asked to repay it, and he said yes, I agree, and will sign an agreement that indicates that. you saying it is illegal is contingent on the premise that he was forced to agree to it. did they threaten him? did they say they would fire him if he did not sign it? if that was the case, then you'd have an argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 8:52:09 AM #41:	Fam_Fam posted... where is your evidence that he was required to repay it? Dude, if you didnt read the article I can't help you. Fam_Fam posted... you saying it is illegal is contingent on the premise that he was forced to agree to it ...no. My saying it's illegal is contingent on laws that exist that forbid employers from requiring employees to repay robbery losses. So you didnt read the article or my posts? <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962490617] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>where is your evidence that he was required to repay it?</quote> Dude, if you didnt read the article I can't help you. Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>you saying it is illegal is contingent on the premise that he was forced to agree to it</quote> ...no. My saying it's illegal is contingent on laws that exist that forbid employers from requiring employees to repay robbery losses. So you didnt read the article or my posts? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BroodRyu 02/09/22 8:53:12 AM #42:	Why would any employee ever agree to repay stolen money???? <cite>BroodRyu posted [p:962490635] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Why would any employee ever agree to repay stolen money???? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 02/09/22 8:53:43 AM #43:	BroodRyu posted... Why would any employee ever agree to repay stolen money???? To keep the job --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:962490641] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>BroodRyu posted... </cite> <quote>Why would any employee ever agree to repay stolen money????</quote> To keep the job </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceAttorneyist 02/09/22 8:55:19 AM #44:	Kegran posted... I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws. The guy who cited duress as an issue has a point though. Who in their right mind would sign such a contract unless it was under duress. What law did he make up though lmao. Illegal contract laws exist, are you saying they do not? --- (... D-Do I really inspire this sort of frothing desire from the female masses?) <cite>AceAttorneyist posted [p:962490668] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not a fan of people who make up their own random laws. The guy who cited duress as an issue has a point though. Who in their right mind would sign such a contract unless it was under duress.</quote> What law did he make up though lmao. Illegal contract laws exist, are you saying they do not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BroodRyu 02/09/22 8:56:43 AM #45:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... To keep the job Why would you be required to pay your employer for money that was stolen to keep your job? I cannot wrap my head around what kind of a backwards world we live in where that is acceptable. <cite>BroodRyu posted [p:962490681] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>To keep the job</quote>Why would you be required to pay your employer for money that was stolen to keep your job? I cannot wrap my head around what kind of a backwards world we live in where that is acceptable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 9:00:34 AM #46:	BroodRyu posted... Why would you be required to pay your employer for money that was stolen to keep your job? I cannot wrap my head around what kind of a backwards world we live in where that is acceptable. You can't be required to repay that. It's illegal. This bartender's going to get paid. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962490749] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>BroodRyu posted... </cite> <quote>Why would you be required to pay your employer for money that was stolen to keep your job? I cannot wrap my head around what kind of a backwards world we live in where that is acceptable.</quote> You can't be required to repay that. It's illegal. This bartender's going to get paid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 9:02:56 AM #47:	AceAttorneyist posted... Illegal contract laws exist, are you saying they do not? I actually posted the evidence this can be legal. I'm not disputing illegal contract laws don't exist. Thanks. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962490785] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>AceAttorneyist posted... </cite> <quote>Illegal contract laws exist, are you saying they do not?</quote>I actually posted the evidence this can be legal. I'm not disputing illegal contract laws don't exist. Thanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 02/09/22 9:07:55 AM #48:	Kegran posted... I actually posted the evidence this can be legal. No you didn't. You think you did, but you didn't. You keep deliberately ignoring the fact that the literal law trumps any "agreement" that anyone signs, voluntarily or otherwise. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:962490849] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Kegran posted... </cite> <quote>I actually posted the evidence this can be legal.</quote> No you didn't. You think you did, but you didn't. You keep deliberately ignoring the fact that the literal law trumps any "agreement" that anyone signs, voluntarily or otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 02/09/22 9:14:47 AM #49:	UnfairRepresent posted... [Quote of Article] Republican wet dream Can't say I know a single Republican that would agree with what happened here, tbh. --- "With half my brain tied behind my back - just to make it fair." <cite>Caution999 posted [p:962490975] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>[Quote of Article] Republican wet dream</quote> Can't say I know a single Republican that would agree with what happened here, tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kegran 02/09/22 9:18:10 AM #50:	TheOtherMike posted... You keep deliberately ignoring the fact that the literal law trumps any "agreement" that anyone signs, voluntarily or otherwise. He was never compelled to perform an illegal activity though. I don't think what you posted says what you think it says. Anyway, this is no longer worth my time. Also of note: my time is worthless. <cite>Kegran posted [p:962491046] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>You keep deliberately ignoring the fact that the literal law trumps any "agreement" that anyone signs, voluntarily or otherwise.</quote>He was never compelled to perform an illegal activity though. I don't think what you posted says what you think it says. Anyway, this is no longer worth my time. Also of note: my time is worthless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/09/22 9:19:07 AM #51:	Caution999 posted... Can't say I know a single Republican that would agree with what happened here, tbh. Scott Walker --- "if i was a woman i would mail kyle rittenhouse my panties." ~ledbowman "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:962491070] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Caution999 posted... </cite> <quote>Can't say I know a single Republican that would agree with what happened here, tbh.</quote> Scott Walker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/09/22 9:19:15 AM #52:	Restaurant management sounds like a bunch of goons and the employee sounds like a total idiot --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:962491073] in Bartender ... [t:79890790]...</cite> <quote>Restaurant management sounds like a bunch of goons and the employee sounds like a total idiot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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