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Around 35 people left, money is all the way to 16th. Just gotta double up once and play defense and I might make something

Aaaaand I lose. Last hand king queen suited loses to pocket tens.

30th place out of 182.

Girlfriend said I could have a constellation prework bj so I got that goin for me

Its alright, I was happy with how I played. There is only one hand on the day I regret not playing, but it would have put me all in with pocket 8s and I was too scared. Should have pulled the trigger Id still be there right now.

but you live and you learn

I had a decent stack and was on the button, early position raised all in (about half my stack) and then the guy before me reraised all in which had me covered. So I knew I was against two monsters. I made the decision to fold because I thought I was behind. And I was kinda right.

first raiser had pocket nines, second raiser had pocket 3s. Id have won the side pot, and the eight came on the river, Id have won the whole thing with the river. But I played defense and folded.

Fun fact

You're impossible to read if you don't remember what you have, but you know you have *something*

Use: Situational

Xethuminra posted...

Fun fact

You're impossible to read if you don't remember what you have, but you know you have *something*

Use: Situational

Wouldnt work for me. I remember every hand.

like, probably not every hand, but pretty much every hand.

MICHALECOLE posted...

I had a decent stack and was on the button, early position raised all in (about half my stack) and then the guy before me reraised all in which had me covered. So I knew I was against two monsters. I made the decision to fold because I thought I was behind. And I was kinda right.

first raiser had pocket nines, second raiser had pocket 3s. Id have won the side pot, and the eight came on the river, Id have won the whole thing with the river. But I played defense and folded.

You made the right play though. It should be a fold there. If you cant include light squeezes in the 3 betters range 8s is a fold all day. I think the only time it wouldnt be is if the 3b can be made light and you are deep enough to 4b.

I hate tournaments because so much of the play is dictated by stack size.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Wouldnt work for me. I remember every hand.

like, probably not every hand, but pretty much every hand.

That's the benefit.

Similar principal to going all-in preflop. Pocket aces can get smashed by 2 pair lol

3s & 4s lol

Who knows

MICHALECOLE posted...

Saturday is the big money day. Hella people here. Im alternate #5 and it hasnt even started yet

not a good start

If you're playing live, tournaments are -EV. They take around 20-25% of the prize pool which is far too much. The exceptions are if you're in higher stakes tournaments. If you're paying $150 for a live tournament you're losing money. Online they only take 10% I believe which allows you to make a profit.

ChainedChained posted...

If you're playing live, tournaments are -EV. They take around 20-25% of the prize pool which is far too much. The exceptions are if you're in higher stakes tournaments. If you're paying $150 for a live tournament you're losing money. Online they only take 10% I believe which allows you to make a profit.

But thats not nearly as fun as playing in person. And I like to see peoples faces and socialize and stuff. Its really not just about the money for me, I like playing poker with people. And the tournaments limit my losses because I know going in if I lose Im only going to lose however much it cost to enter.

Xethuminra posted...

That's the benefit.

Similar principal to going all-in preflop. Pocket aces can get smashed by 2 pair lol

3s & 4s lol

Who knows

Yeah, thats the gambling part of poker. But statistically pocket aces is going to win most of the time.

whitelytning posted...

You made the right play though. It should be a fold there. If you cant include light squeezes in the 3 betters range 8s is a fold all day. I think the only time it wouldnt be is if the 3b can be made light and you are deep enough to 4b.

I hate tournaments because so much of the play is dictated by stack size.

The play is always dictated by stack size, whether its tournament stacks or the stacks in your wallet.

YWS-is-King posted...

If someone is going all in preflop with 34 then you are playing against an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHTyOK5ACo

This guy went all-in preflop with 53 for $750,000. 53 can't be that much different from 43.

YWS-is-King posted...

If someone is going all in preflop with 34 then you are playing against an idiot.

Not necessarily

Depends on how the deck is being shuffled and how many players are left and tbh what the hands have been looking like. Also depends on whether they got a peek at someone else's cards. For example, if I see that my 4 opponents all drew Ace, King. Same hand, all four of them, then actually, haha.... My 3,4 is looking pretty hot. Idk about all-in tho. If they hit a straight or kick with high card, I'm toast.

Inb4 you say that's astronomically unlikely

Xethuminra posted...

Not necessarily

Depends on how the deck is being shuffled and how many players are left and tbh what the hands have been looking like. Also depends on whether they got a peek at someone else's cards. For example, if I see that my 4 opponents all drew Ace, King. Same hand, all four of them, then actually, haha.... My 3,4 is looking pretty hot. Idk about all-in tho. If they hit a straight or kick with high card, I'm toast.

Inb4 you say that's astronomically unlikely

This is a pretty stupid post. Geez.

Xethuminra posted...

Not necessarily

Depends on how the deck is being shuffled and how many players are left and tbh what the hands have been looking like. Also depends on whether they got a peek at someone else's cards. For example, if I see that my 4 opponents all drew Ace, King. Same hand, all four of them, then actually, haha.... My 3,4 is looking pretty hot. Idk about all-in tho. If they hit a straight or kick with high card, I'm toast.

Inb4 you say that's astronomically unlikely

this post

play poker with me please

YWS-is-King posted...

LOL what the fuck?

No, it doesnt depend on that at all 34 is an insta-fold whether there is 9 players or heads up.

LOL what the fuck?

Oh but it does

A magician can make a career on being able to follow the cards or rig a shuffle.

You've never seen someone's hand on accident?

3,4 is pretty bad and that's why I used it as an example.

But geez. All-in pre flop is just not really a great strategy no matter what. That's just playing Russian roulette

Are my 3,4 suited? Flush!!

Xethuminra posted...

Oh but it does

A magician can make a career on being able to follow the cards or rig a shuffle.

You've never seen someone's hand on accident?

3,4 is pretty bad and that's why I used it as an example.

But geez. All-in pre flop is just not really a great strategy no matter what. That's just playing Russian roulette

Are my 3,4 suited? Flush!!

All in preflop is never good? You must suck at poker.

ChainedChained posted...

All in preflop is never good? You must suck at poker.

I didn't say never.

There's tons of factors. It's a great way to push people around in heads up, actually.

>All-in pre flop is just not really a great strategy no matter what
> It's a great way to push people around in heads up, actually.

Must be a troll.

What are the blinds? Etc. What's your stack look like vs the other player/s.

It's all good.

If you like to lose money, not my business

Xethuminra posted...

What are the blinds? Etc. What's your stack look like vs the other player/s.

It's all good.

If you like to lose money, not my business

You just said it's never a good strategy "no matter what". Very next post you said it's a great strategy heads-up to push people around.

Either you suck at poker, or you suck at language.

Suited connectors are a good hand, but not a good hand to go all in on. And 3 4 is the second worst suited connector you can have

ChainedChained posted...

You just said it's never a good strategy "no matter what". Very next post you said it's a great strategy heads-up to push people around.

Either you suck at poker, or you suck at language.

Or, both lol

You could explain to the rest of the class the benefits of all-in preflop.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Suited connectors are a good hand, but not a good hand to go all in on. And 3 4 is the second worst suited connector you can have

Anything below 45 is not really a suited connector. Suited connectors are called this way because they can make flushes but also because they have the maximum amount of straight possibilities. Anything below 45 does not have the maximum amount. Once you get down to 23 you only have 2 straights possible using both your hands as opposed to 4 in a traditional suited connector like 67.

Xethuminra posted...

Or, both lol

You could explain to the rest of the class the benefits of all-in preflop.

Ok. If you have AA preflop, you are a 80% favorite. Let's say you go all-in for $1000 vs. one player (to make it simple). That's a $2000 pot. That means your share of the pot is $1600 in the long-term. That means every time you get it all in with AA (or any pocket pair that is above their cards) you win $600 in that situation. And 80%+ of the time you will win.

AA wins 80% of the time?

Xethuminra posted...

AA wins 80% of the time?

It wins 82% of the time vs. a smaller pocket pair like KK, 22. The worst match-up is against true suited connectors like 76 which it is only a 75-76% favorite. On average, it is an 80% favorite yes.

ChainedChained posted...

Anything below 45 is not really a suited connector. Suited connectors are called this way because they can make flushes but also because they have the maximum amount of straight possibilities. Anything below 45 does not have the maximum amount. Once you get down to 23 you only have 2 straights possible using both your hands as opposed to 4 in a traditional suited connector like 67.

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