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Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 7:00:33 PM #1:	It's so obvious at this point https://www.sie.com/en/blog/bungie-to-join-the-playstation-family/ Bungies successful track record in multi-format publishing and live game services will assist us in realizing our ambitions to take PlayStation beyond the console and increase our potential audience. They will remain independent and multi-platform, will enjoy creative freedom, and their track record in developing massively successful franchises in the sci-fi shooter genre will be highly complementary to SIEs own IP portfolio. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-01-31-playstation-bungie-will-considerably-accelerate-our-journey-with-multiplatform-live-service-games "I've been on record talking about increasing the size of the PlayStation community, and expanding beyond our historic console heartland. This can take many forms. And definitely one of the main ones is the ability for the wonderful games that we've been making over the past 25 years to be enjoyed in different places and played in different ways. We are starting to go multiplatform, you've seen that. We have an aggressive road map with live services. And the opportunity to work with, and particularly learn from, the brilliant and talented people from Bungie... that is going to considerably accelerate the journey we find ourselves on." Ryan adds: "The way people play games has changed a lot over the last few years. We have created some wonderful properties over the course of the last 25 years, with characters that people love and resonate the world over. Offering the opportunity to enjoy those experiences in a completely different way is something that we are very excited about. I can't go into details today, but we have a really amazing roadmap on how to do that. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-10-07-jim-ryan-i-would-love-a-world-where-hundreds-of-millions-will-enjoy-our-games "I would also like to see a world where the games that we make at PlayStation can be enjoyed by many tens of millions of people. Perhaps hundreds of millions of people. Right now success with the current console model, a really great PlayStation hit you're talking ten or 20 million people being able to play that game. "We're talking about games stacking up against music, we're talking about games stacking up against movies. Music and movies, they can be enjoyed by almost limitless audiences. And I think some of the art that our studios are making is some of the finest entertainment that has been made anywhere in the world. And to kind-of gate the audience for the wonderful art, wonderful entertainment that our studios are making... to gate the audience for that at 20 or 30 million frustrates me. I would love to see a world where hundreds of millions of people can enjoy those games." https://www.espn.com.au/esports/story/_/id/30286170/microsoft-phil-spencer-xbox-new-approach-gaming "I think our our pivot is really to build the best experience for players on the devices that they want to play on," Spencer told ESPN in an interview. "... I mean, so many of the things that we're doing now are available on different platforms. So for us in the gaming space, it's an approach to allow gamers to play the games that they want to play on the devices that they want to play on, and we think that's the best approach to growing Xbox." "If we're really going to be in the gaming space, shouldn't we be about all gamers?" Spencer said. "There are three billion people who play video games on the planet today, and there are about 200 million households that will buy a console. Console is an important consideration, but there are also a ton of people who play on PC. A ton of people play on the devices that they already own. I was really trying to expand our strategy to reach gamers on the devices that they want to play on, but also when we build a console to build absolutely the best console anyone could buy, and I think that's what the team is done." That might be easy to say, of course, given that Sony has outsold Microsoft in each generation, if you're strictly looking at console sales numbers. Spencer reiterates however that although console is definitely a piece of the pie, he doesn't consider it a major measure of success for the company. "We really think about the number of players that are playing on Xbox," Spencer said. "How many people are on the platform on the service playing games I know specially this holiday with PlayStation launching and Xbox launching. I think some of the traditional measures will still try to be used by certain people of 'how many Xbox are sold, how many PlayStations are sold.' Inside of our team, we goal ourselves on how many players play on Xbox. That is our goal. We say on Xbox, it could be a PC player that's a Game Pass subscriber who's playing our games on their platform. It could be somebody on the (Nintendo) Switch who's playing one of our first party games. Could be somebody who is on Android using xCloud to to play first party games there. It's really how do we reach as many players as possible and that is the top level goal that we have as an org." No idea how it will shape up but it's obvious both of these companies have plans we don't know about. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962252381] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>It's so obvious at this point https://www.sie.com/en/blog/bungie-to-join-the-playstation-family/ <quote>Bungies successful track record in multi-format publishing and live game services will assist us in realizing our ambitions to take PlayStation beyond the console and increase our potential audience. They will remain independent and multi-platform, will enjoy creative freedom, and their track record in developing massively successful franchises in the sci-fi shooter genre will be highly complementary to SIEs own IP portfolio.</quote> https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-01-31-playstation-bungie-will-considerably-accelerate-our-journey-with-multiplatform-live-service-games <quote>"I've been on record talking about increasing the size of the PlayStation community, and expanding beyond our historic console heartland. This can take many forms. And definitely one of the main ones is the ability for the wonderful games that we've been making over the past 25 years to be enjoyed in different places and played in different ways. We are starting to go multiplatform, you've seen that. We have an aggressive road map with live services. And the opportunity to work with, and particularly learn from, the brilliant and talented people from Bungie... that is going to considerably accelerate the journey we find ourselves on."</quote> <quote>Ryan adds: "The way people play games has changed a lot over the last few years. We have created some wonderful properties over the course of the last 25 years, with characters that people love and resonate the world over. Offering the opportunity to enjoy those experiences in a completely different way is something that we are very excited about. I can't go into details today, but we have a really amazing roadmap on how to do that.</quote> https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-10-07-jim-ryan-i-would-love-a-world-where-hundreds-of-millions-will-enjoy-our-games <quote>"I would also like to see a world where the games that we make at PlayStation can be enjoyed by many tens of millions of people. Perhaps hundreds of millions of people. Right now success with the current console model, a really great PlayStation hit you're talking ten or 20 million people being able to play that game. "We're talking about games stacking up against music, we're talking about games stacking up against movies. Music and movies, they can be enjoyed by almost limitless audiences. And I think some of the art that our studios are making is some of the finest entertainment that has been made anywhere in the world. And to kind-of gate the audience for the wonderful art, wonderful entertainment that our studios are making... to gate the audience for that at 20 or 30 million frustrates me. I would love to see a world where hundreds of millions of people can enjoy those games."</quote> https://www.espn.com.au/esports/story/_/id/30286170/microsoft-phil-spencer-xbox-new-approach-gaming <quote>"I think our our pivot is really to build the best experience for players on the devices that they want to play on," Spencer told ESPN in an interview. "... I mean, so many of the things that we're doing now are available on different platforms. So for us in the gaming space, it's an approach to allow gamers to play the games that they want to play on the devices that they want to play on, and we think that's the best approach to growing Xbox."</quote> <quote>"If we're really going to be in the gaming space, shouldn't we be about all gamers?" Spencer said. "There are three billion people who play video games on the planet today, and there are about 200 million households that will buy a console. Console is an important consideration, but there are also a ton of people who play on PC. A ton of people play on the devices that they already own. I was really trying to expand our strategy to reach gamers on the devices that they want to play on, but also when we build a console to build absolutely the best console anyone could buy, and I think that's what the team is done." That might be easy to say, of course, given that Sony has outsold Microsoft in each generation, if you're strictly looking at console sales numbers. Spencer reiterates however that although console is definitely a piece of the pie, he doesn't consider it a major measure of success for the company. "We really think about the number of players that are playing on Xbox," Spencer said. "How many people are on the platform on the service playing games I know specially this holiday with PlayStation launching and Xbox launching. I think some of the traditional measures will still try to be used by certain people of 'how many Xbox are sold, how many PlayStations are sold.' Inside of our team, we goal ourselves on how many players play on Xbox. That is our goal. We say on Xbox, it could be a PC player that's a Game Pass subscriber who's playing our games on their platform. It could be somebody on the (Nintendo) Switch who's playing one of our first party games. Could be somebody who is on Android using xCloud to to play first party games there. It's really how do we reach as many players as possible and that is the top level goal that we have as an org."</quote> No idea how it will shape up but it's obvious both of these companies have plans we don't know about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 01/31/22 7:02:39 PM #2:	MS already has it in motion with gamepass. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:962252430] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>MS already has it in motion with gamepass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 01/31/22 7:03:44 PM #3:	they're going to keep making PC games, which is great, but you're kidding yourself if you think either company is going to buy a publisher and let them sell games to their rival console maker. this is just console companies coming to the obvious conclusion that cutting out the PC market is pointless, its functionally free money. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:962252464] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>they're going to keep making PC games, which is great, but you're kidding yourself if you think either company is going to buy a publisher and let them sell games to their rival console maker. this is just console companies coming to the obvious conclusion that cutting out the PC market is pointless, its functionally free money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 01/31/22 7:05:09 PM #4:	As long as everything comes to PC I'm happy. Now if only we could get Nintendo on board too. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:962252507] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>As long as everything comes to PC I'm happy. Now if only we could get Nintendo on board too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 01/31/22 7:06:58 PM #5:	The platform is now the subscription service and no longer the console. Following PS5 and Series X/S we may just get very cheap streaming boxes in the future. If not the next ones, absolutely the ones after. Gamepass is going to come as an app in televisions within the next 4 years as well. Exclusive games will remain for a while to drive adoption. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:962252558] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>The platform is now the subscription service and no longer the console. Following PS5 and Series X/S we may just get very cheap streaming boxes in the future. If not the next ones, absolutely the ones after. Gamepass is going to come as an app in televisions within the next 4 years as well. Exclusive games will remain for a while to drive adoption. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 01/31/22 7:08:44 PM #6:	Lol what that woild defeat the purpose of having multiple consoles. Everyone would just buy xbox cause its more powerful. --- If you can see this message it's a wonder why it hasn't been modded yet by the snowflakes. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:962252609] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Lol what that woild defeat the purpose of having multiple consoles. Everyone would just buy xbox cause its more powerful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 7:11:24 PM #7:	Tbh the only thing stopping this right now is that both Microsoft and Sony need to be on the same page that content and services will make more money if they are platform agnostic. Sony is clearly starting to get there with their recent Bungie acquisition. Microsoft is already there. If Microsoft and Sony mutually agree that their subscriptions and games will make more money if they are on each others platforms instead of divided that will be it. If we're getting to the point that people can stream any game they want on a browser anyway it's hard to think of a logic that argues otherwise. The biggest hurdle is their 30% for third parties. But if they find that having each other basically dominate the premium console market together that's probably something that will work out on its own. SauI_Goodman posted... Lol what that woild defeat the purpose of having multiple consoles. Everyone would just buy xbox cause its more powerful. The consoles are already basically the same anyway. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962252696] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Tbh the only thing stopping this right now is that both Microsoft and Sony need to be on the same page that content and services will make more money if they are platform agnostic. Sony is clearly starting to get there with their recent Bungie acquisition. Microsoft is already there. If Microsoft and Sony mutually agree that their subscriptions and games will make more money if they are on each others platforms instead of divided that will be it. If we're getting to the point that people can stream any game they want on a browser anyway it's hard to think of a logic that argues otherwise. The biggest hurdle is their 30% for third parties. But if they find that having each other basically dominate the premium console market together that's probably something that will work out on its own. SauI_Goodman posted... </cite> <quote>Lol what that woild defeat the purpose of having multiple consoles. Everyone would just buy xbox cause its more powerful.</quote> The consoles are already basically the same anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 01/31/22 7:12:11 PM #8:	That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa. --- Currently Playing: Dead by Daylight,Friday the 13th and Forza Horizon 5 <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:962252721] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 01/31/22 7:13:06 PM #9:	Spider-Man games will never be on Xbox. --- FAM FOREVER. \| https://i.imgur.com/cGrHeeU.jpg <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:962252756] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Spider-Man games will never be on Xbox. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 7:17:32 PM #10:	Mr_Karate_II posted... That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa. That wouldn't be what would happen. It would mean someone with a Playstation or Xbox could subscribe both to Spartacus and Game Pass. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962252872] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II posted... </cite> <quote>That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa.</quote> That wouldn't be what would happen. It would mean someone with a Playstation or Xbox could subscribe both to Spartacus and Game Pass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 01/31/22 8:22:13 PM #11:	Mr_Karate_II posted... That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa. Eventually Gamepass will come to Sony's box and Sony's service will come to Xbox. The current buying spree is to drive adoption of services, as well as freeze out Amazon, Google, and other ABC corps. Amazon already bought a few studios and was a major player bidding for Zenimax. In 10 years you could buy a Smart TV that comes with Gamepass and PS whatever installed, sync a Bluetooth controller and sign in. That's the endgame. No R&D costs sunk into hardware, no losses on a box that cost $1000 but has to sell for $300 - $500. There's a mental as well as fiscal barrier to buying a console. Some people don't want them, many people can't afford them. In the future, you just need another app and another sub fee. Sony and MS can also merge with an actual service provider like Disney Plus to bundle up your entertainment. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:962254805] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II posted... </cite> <quote>That's not gonna happen, Sony isn't going to let their games go on gamepass or vice versa.</quote> Eventually Gamepass will come to Sony's box and Sony's service will come to Xbox. The current buying spree is to drive adoption of services, as well as freeze out Amazon, Google, and other ABC corps. Amazon already bought a few studios and was a major player bidding for Zenimax. In 10 years you could buy a Smart TV that comes with Gamepass and PS whatever installed, sync a Bluetooth controller and sign in. That's the endgame. No R&D costs sunk into hardware, no losses on a box that cost $1000 but has to sell for $300 - $500. There's a mental as well as fiscal barrier to buying a console. Some people don't want them, many people can't afford them. In the future, you just need another app and another sub fee. Sony and MS can also merge with an actual service provider like Disney Plus to bundle up your entertainment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 8:33:07 PM #12:	There's a lot of rumbling that Netflix and Playstation have some sort of strategic partnership we don't know about. The Ghost of Tsushima leak still hasn't been explained. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962255131] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>There's a lot of rumbling that Netflix and Playstation have some sort of strategic partnership we don't know about. The Ghost of Tsushima leak still hasn't been explained. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 01/31/22 8:37:18 PM #13:	Punished_Blinx posted... There's a lot of rumbling that Netflix and Playstation have some sort of strategic partnership we don't know about. The Ghost of Tsushima leak still hasn't been explained. Exactly. This is where the future is headed. Say MS buys platforms like Tubi(worth only 4 million) or buys a giant like AMC(8 billion easy money). --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:962255270] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>There's a lot of rumbling that Netflix and Playstation have some sort of strategic partnership we don't know about. The Ghost of Tsushima leak still hasn't been explained.</quote> Exactly. This is where the future is headed. Say MS buys platforms like Tubi(worth only 4 million) or buys a giant like AMC(8 billion easy money). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 01/31/22 8:49:08 PM #14:	Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:962255620] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 8:49:59 PM #15:	Slayer_22 posted... Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen. How many things have happened in the last 10 years have been things people have said will never happen? --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962255655] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen.</quote> How many things have happened in the last 10 years have been things people have said will never happen? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 02/01/22 3:28:36 AM #16:	Punished_Blinx posted... How many things have happened in the last 10 years have been things people have said will never happen? Legitimately trillions, likely an unknown quantity. It's likely that everything ever has been said to never happen and then that happened. You think you have a point, but you don't. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:962263581] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted...</cite> <quote> How many things have happened in the last 10 years have been things people have said will never happen? </quote> Legitimately trillions, likely an unknown quantity. It's likely that everything ever has been said to never happen and then that happened. You think you have a point, but you don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 3:58:06 AM #17:	Slayer_22 posted... Legitimately trillions, likely an unknown quantity. It's likely that everything ever has been said to never happen and then that happened. You think you have a point, but you don't. You should know I was specifically talking about video games and how much it has changed in 10 years but maybe you're just really dense. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962263886] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Legitimately trillions, likely an unknown quantity. It's likely that everything ever has been said to never happen and then that happened. You think you have a point, but you don't.</quote> You should know I was specifically talking about video games and how much it has changed in 10 years but maybe you're just really dense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/22 4:01:20 AM #18:	XS = no exclusives, at all. PS5 = six exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games NS = 95 exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:962263927] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>XS = no exclusives, at all. PS5 = six exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games NS = 95 exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 4:03:35 AM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... XS = no exclusives, at all. PS5 = six exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games NS = 95 exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games And yet people still don't believe me heh. I'm sure Steam/PC is just the endpoint. Just like all of the other endpoints people have made up over the years. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962263959] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>XS = no exclusives, at all. PS5 = six exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games NS = 95 exclusives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games</quote> And yet people still don't believe me heh. I'm sure Steam/PC is just the endpoint. Just like all of the other endpoints people have made up over the years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/01/22 4:08:34 AM #20:	Slayer_22 posted... Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen. You're not paying attention if you cant see that console companies want to ditch the consoles and switch to subscription services across multiple devices. Game Pass is a massive success of an experiment, and Sony is gonna follow suit. It's essentially a bring your own device system that takes the cost of manufacturing out of the equation --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:962264019] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Is this some joke I'm not getting or something? Because this will never happen.</quote>You're not paying attention if you cant see that console companies want to ditch the consoles and switch to subscription services across multiple devices. Game Pass is a massive success of an experiment, and Sony is gonna follow suit. It's essentially a bring your own device system that takes the cost of manufacturing out of the equation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/01/22 4:11:37 AM #21:	The ultimate end game is to get everyone on cloud gaming but that's a long term thing. Most people globally don't have the internet to handle it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:962264050] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>The ultimate end game is to get everyone on cloud gaming but that's a long term thing. Most people globally don't have the internet to handle it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 4:20:17 AM #22:	Tyranthraxus posted... The ultimate end game is to get everyone on cloud gaming but that's a long term thing. Most people globally don't have the internet to handle it. Yeah that's what it seems to be overall but it feels like there's a stop gap or alternative still missing in the equation. A lot of people will still prefer local gaming. It could be PC gaming becoming more streamlined but even then I'm not entirely sure how they would box that up and sell it. They'd also be giving up a lot to Valve potentially. That's why I'm thinking maybe they'll just follow something like Android and iOS. They'll release hardware models on their own and people will have preferences but the content isn't as walled up. Just seems to overall be a solution that works out best for everyone but it really depends on both Microsoft and Sony reaching a mutual conclusion which I don't think is as impossible as some people think. Especially with all of this recent news. Either way there's definitely a lot happening behind the scenes right now and it's not a coincidence that both companies are putting less of a focus on hardware. I think at the very least we'll see F2P and multiplayer focused stuff being platform agnostic. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962264131] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>The ultimate end game is to get everyone on cloud gaming but that's a long term thing. Most people globally don't have the internet to handle it.</quote> Yeah that's what it seems to be overall but it feels like there's a stop gap or alternative still missing in the equation. A lot of people will still prefer local gaming. It could be PC gaming becoming more streamlined but even then I'm not entirely sure how they would box that up and sell it. They'd also be giving up a lot to Valve potentially. That's why I'm thinking maybe they'll just follow something like Android and iOS. They'll release hardware models on their own and people will have preferences but the content isn't as walled up. Just seems to overall be a solution that works out best for everyone but it really depends on both Microsoft and Sony reaching a mutual conclusion which I don't think is as impossible as some people think. Especially with all of this recent news. Either way there's definitely a lot happening behind the scenes right now and it's not a coincidence that both companies are putting less of a focus on hardware. I think at the very least we'll see F2P and multiplayer focused stuff being platform agnostic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 02/01/22 4:23:49 AM #23:	Punished_Blinx posted... The Ghost of Tsushima leak What's this? --- teep does not dream of logical witch <cite>teep_ posted [p:962264163] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>The Ghost of Tsushima leak</quote>What's this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 4:27:54 AM #24:	teep_ posted... What's this? https://www.vg247.com/netflix-playstation-dualsense-ghost-of-tsushima-datamine PlayStation-related images of both a DualSense controller and Ghost of Tsushima have been discovered hidden within the Netflix app, a dataminer has revealed. I don't believe anything else has been said since. But Netflix did say the other week that they have big gaming plans and PlayStation are also about to revamp their subscription. Definitely seems like something is brewing back there and the data mine could potentially give a bit of a clue. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962264206] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>teep_ posted... </cite> <quote>What's this?</quote> https://www.vg247.com/netflix-playstation-dualsense-ghost-of-tsushima-datamine <quote>PlayStation-related images of both a DualSense controller and Ghost of Tsushima have been discovered hidden within the Netflix app, a dataminer has revealed.</quote> I don't believe anything else has been said since. But Netflix did say the other week that they have big gaming plans and PlayStation are also about to revamp their subscription. Definitely seems like something is brewing back there and the data mine could potentially give a bit of a clue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/22 4:31:38 AM #25:	Punished_Blinx posted... I'm sure Steam/PC is just the endpoint. Just like all of the other endpoints people have made up over the years. PC + "goddammit, Nintendo!" is the endpoint. Nintendo is sitting in the exact market void between "every 'big boy' game is on PC" and "mobile freemium shitpile". Nothing else is there. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:962264234] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sure Steam/PC is just the endpoint. Just like all of the other endpoints people have made up over the years.</quote>PC + "goddammit, Nintendo!" is the endpoint. Nintendo is sitting in the exact market void between "every 'big boy' game is on PC" and "mobile freemium shitpile". Nothing else is there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 02/01/22 4:43:58 AM #26:	Punished_Blinx posted... https://www.vg247.com/netflix-playstation-dualsense-ghost-of-tsushima-datamine I don't believe anything else has been said since. But Netflix did say the other week that they have big gaming plans and PlayStation are also about to revamp their subscription. Definitely seems like something is brewing back there and the data mine could potentially give a bit of a clue. Gotcha, thanks. Something definitely seems up --- teep does not dream of logical witch <cite>teep_ posted [p:962264338] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.vg247.com/netflix-playstation-dualsense-ghost-of-tsushima-datamine I don't believe anything else has been said since. But Netflix did say the other week that they have big gaming plans and PlayStation are also about to revamp their subscription. Definitely seems like something is brewing back there and the data mine could potentially give a bit of a clue.</quote>Gotcha, thanks. Something definitely seems up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 02/01/22 4:54:19 AM #27:	Its just not going to happen. Its too valuable for Sony to use AAA exclusives to get new customers into their ecosystem. --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:962264432] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Its just not going to happen. Its too valuable for Sony to use AAA exclusives to get new customers into their ecosystem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brotrrwinner 02/01/22 4:55:02 AM #28:	As a proud member of the PC master race, I am ok with this turn of events --- September 21st, 2008 Never forget <cite>brotrrwinner posted [p:962264441] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>As a proud member of the PC master race, I am ok with this turn of events </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 02/01/22 5:01:47 AM #29:	i mean, we're starting to see more games that were supposed to be PlayStation exclusives on PC... really the only one that will stay the same is Nintendo. Mario or Pokmon on other consoles?? no way in hell! lol <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:962264491] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>i mean, we're starting to see more games that were supposed to be PlayStation exclusives on PC... really the only one that will stay the same is Nintendo. Mario or Pokmon on other consoles?? no way in hell! lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 5:15:35 AM #30:	I remember back when Death Stranding was announced for PC and Cory Barlog stated that he'd love to put God of War on PC but he isn't Kojima. Apparently it came out recently that it was the developers who wanted to put their games on PC. Now we have a PlayStation owned developer who has full autonomy over what they're doing along with the choice of multiplat. Just all sounds so similar. Stalolin posted... Its just not going to happen. Its too valuable for Sony to use AAA exclusives to get new customers into their ecosystem. The question is are there going to be new customers with the same model again? PlayStation/Xbox combined sell around 180ish million regardless. PlayStation games tend to top out at around 20 million. If Xbox Series S/X sell more than last gen and eat up more of that pie PlayStation are potentially looking at a lower ceiling for their big budget games which isn't good for them. That's the answer they're currently looking to solve. It's why they're porting games to PC. It's why Spartacus is a thing. But who knows how far this logic will go. The big turning point is how can they maintain their 30% cut selling third party content and subscription revenue. That's the big sticking point and the stalemate between Microsoft and Sony. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962264600] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>I remember back when Death Stranding was announced for PC and Cory Barlog stated that he'd love to put God of War on PC but he isn't Kojima. Apparently it came out recently that it was the developers who wanted to put their games on PC. Now we have a PlayStation owned developer who has full autonomy over what they're doing along with the choice of multiplat. Just all sounds so similar. Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>Its just not going to happen. Its too valuable for Sony to use AAA exclusives to get new customers into their ecosystem.</quote> The question is are there going to be new customers with the same model again? PlayStation/Xbox combined sell around 180ish million regardless. PlayStation games tend to top out at around 20 million. If Xbox Series S/X sell more than last gen and eat up more of that pie PlayStation are potentially looking at a lower ceiling for their big budget games which isn't good for them. That's the answer they're currently looking to solve. It's why they're porting games to PC. It's why Spartacus is a thing. But who knows how far this logic will go. The big turning point is how can they maintain their 30% cut selling third party content and subscription revenue. That's the big sticking point and the stalemate between Microsoft and Sony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 02/01/22 5:46:54 AM #31:	ZevLoveDOOM posted... i mean, we're starting to see more games that were supposed to be PlayStation exclusives on PC... only when theres an upcoming sequel. --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:962264918] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>ZevLoveDOOM posted... </cite> <quote>i mean, we're starting to see more games that were supposed to be PlayStation exclusives on PC... </quote> only when theres an upcoming sequel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/01/22 6:03:38 AM #32:	Stalolin posted... only when theres an upcoming sequel. Days Gone Death Stranding Uncharted was literally earlier this week --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962265096] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>only when theres an upcoming sequel.</quote> Days Gone Death Stranding Uncharted was literally earlier this week </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 02/01/22 6:50:31 AM #33:	Punished_Blinx posted... Days Gone Death Stranding Uncharted was literally earlier this week fair enough. All last gen and came out a while ago though. Its a calculated move. I still dont think the days is exclusives are anywhere near over. --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:962265577] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>Days Gone Death Stranding Uncharted was literally earlier this week</quote> fair enough. All last gen and came out a while ago though. Its a calculated move. I still dont think the days is exclusives are anywhere near over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 02/01/22 7:30:11 AM #34:	Fony posted... The platform is now the subscription service and no longer the console. Following PS5 and Series X/S we may just get very cheap streaming boxes in the future. If not the next ones, absolutely the ones after. Gamepass is going to come as an app in televisions within the next 4 years as well. Exclusive games will remain for a while to drive adoption. Sega Channel about to make a comeback. --- IDD <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:962266050] in The days o... [t:79878521]...</cite> <quote>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>The platform is now the subscription service and no longer the console. Following PS5 and Series X/S we may just get very cheap streaming boxes in the future. If not the next ones, absolutely the ones after. Gamepass is going to come as an app in televisions within the next 4 years as well. Exclusive games will remain for a while to drive adoption. </quote> Sega Channel about to make a comeback.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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