Current Events > The whole Ukraine-Russia thing is just media fearmongering.

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 1:58:32 PM
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And it's purpose is to make people feel nationalistic, have them support the military industrial complex, and distract from domestic affairs.

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armandro
01/25/22 1:59:11 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about

I think you might be watching stuff on TV that really doesn't matter

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pogo_rabid
01/25/22 1:59:34 PM
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Are you willing to bet your account on that?

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CableZL
01/25/22 1:59:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure the "Ukraine-Russia thing" is the result of Russia amassing troops near the Ukraine border, which is making people think Putin is going to try to invade Ukraine.

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mustachedmystic
01/25/22 2:00:04 PM
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Are you saying that Russia hasnt massed a hundred thousand soldiers and 1500 tanks at the border?

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Underpants
01/25/22 2:00:34 PM
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It makes me think of Red Dawn. Then it reminds me of the terrible remake that somehow suckered Chris Hemsworth to star in it.
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Solar_Crimson
01/25/22 2:01:04 PM
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Next time, TC is going to tell us all that COVID-19 is just the flu.

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Heartomaton
01/25/22 2:01:07 PM
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I think the citizens of Ukraine would disagree.

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:01:37 PM
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CableZL posted...
I'm pretty sure the "Ukraine-Russia thing" is the result of Russia amassing troops near the Ukraine border, which is making people think Putin is going to try to invade Ukraine.

This happens every few months, and nothing ever comes out of it.

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HughFranzeffIII
01/25/22 2:02:34 PM
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This is a classic case of someone on the internet trying to sound smart but clearly isn't paying attention to anything.

Yeah the media put all those Russian forces at the border and has Putin threatening countries like Japan to not step in. Makes total sense.
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masterpug53
01/25/22 2:05:01 PM
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This whole topic is just message board fearmongering.

And it's purpose is to make TC feel smugly self-assured, have them support the notion that all news is just media scare tactics, and distract from international conflict.

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CableZL
01/25/22 2:05:23 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
This happens every few months, and nothing ever comes out of it.

Countries don't move troops to other countries because of "media fearmongering."

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MixedRaceBaby
01/25/22 2:05:45 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
This happens every few months, and nothing ever comes out of it.
whens the last time it happened?

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:06:58 PM
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The same thing with China and Taiwan. You might have noticed how a few months ago, the media was in a frenzy over China's supposed invasion of Taiwan, and nothing came out of that. Now the narrative has changed, and it's all about Russia and Ukraine, but in a few months ago, nothing will have happened, and the media will go back to fearmongering about China and Taiwan, and so on.

The media has us well-trained. They have people talking about whether we should intervene halfway across the world in hypothetical scenarios that will never happen, rather than questioning the veracity of their information.

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Sir_Gawain
01/25/22 2:07:10 PM
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Reminder that TC's main is LNSS, who gets put into purg once per month for defending China.

he's just shilling for Russia because he wishes it was the USSR again

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Sir_Gawain
01/25/22 2:07:27 PM
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TC remind us what you've said about the Uyghurs

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ChocoboMogALT
01/25/22 2:09:00 PM
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How's Crimea doing?

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:09:34 PM
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CableZL posted...
Countries don't move troops to other countries because of "media fearmongering."

Yeah, they do. For example, last year there was a huge NATO exercise in Eastern Europe, right at the Russian border.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/03/15/massive-army-led-nato-exercise-defender-europe-kicks-off/

This is something normal that countries do.

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CableZL
01/25/22 2:10:20 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Yeah, they do. For example, last year there was a huge NATO exercise in Eastern Europe, right at the Russian border.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/03/15/massive-army-led-nato-exercise-defender-europe-kicks-off/

This is something normal that countries do.

... And they didn't do that because of "media fearmongering."

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shironinja
01/25/22 2:10:23 PM
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It seems like a military training exercise and setting up bases for future operations.

When Russia really wants to take over another country they will just go ahead and do it; like they did when they annexed Crimea.

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:11:55 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
How's Crimea doing?

Point in case. When the Crimea thing happened, there wasn't a huge military build-up, it just happened and took everyone by surprise. When you're going to invade somewhere, you don't signal it for weeks beforehand.

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:12:56 PM
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CableZL posted...
... And they didn't do that because of "media fearmongering."

The Russian media and government was probably fearmongering to their people then.

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_HayleyWilliams
01/25/22 2:16:08 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Next time, TC is going to tell us all that COVID-19 is just the flu.
Some people legitimately think the pandemic is nothing but global mass hysteria and "media fearmongering".

And then they'll tell you they aren't a conspiracy theorist.

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CableZL
01/25/22 2:16:14 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
The Russian media and government was probably fearmongering to their people then.

And yet, they still didn't decide to move their troops because of media fear mongering, like you claim they do every few months. They certainly didn't do so because of their own fear mongering.

Your entire premise is ridiculous.

"Countries move troops because of media fear-mongering"
  • You supported this by posting a link to an event that didn't happen because of media fear-mongering
"The Russian media and government was probably fearmongering to their people then"
  • This suggests the Russian government decided to move troops because of... their own fear mongering?


You don't seem to be able to make a logical point here.

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Sir_Gawain
01/25/22 2:18:42 PM
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Sir_Gawain posted...
Reminder that TC's main is LNSS, who gets put into purg once per month for defending China.

he's just shilling for Russia because he wishes it was the USSR again


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uwnim
01/25/22 2:21:45 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
The same thing with China and Taiwan. You might have noticed how a few months ago, the media was in a frenzy over China's supposed invasion of Taiwan, and nothing came out of that. Now the narrative has changed, and it's all about Russia and Ukraine, but in a few months ago, nothing will have happened, and the media will go back to fearmongering about China and Taiwan, and so on.

The media has us well-trained. They have people talking about whether we should intervene halfway across the world in hypothetical scenarios that will never happen, rather than questioning the veracity of their information.
The stuff I was reading wasnt making it sound like China was going to invade and mentioned that China does that stuff from time to time. They were clear that if anything did happen it would be the result of a mistake and not a deliberate action.

For the current situation, I was getting a mix of possible actual invasion and the buildup is just to get NATO to negotiate and agree to not ever let Ukraine in or use Ukraine for military purposes.

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 2:22:44 PM
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CableZL posted...
And yet, they still didn't decide to move their troops because of media fear mongering, like you claim they do every few months. They certainly didn't do so because of their own fear mongering.

Your entire premise is ridiculous.

"Countries move troops because of media fear-mongering"
* You supported this by posting a link to an event that didn't happen because of media fear-mongering
"The Russian media and government was probably fearmongering to their people then"
* This suggests the Russian government decided to move troops because of... their own fear mongering?

You don't seem to be able to make a logical point here.

It goes like this:

  1. Countries move troops near their borders
  2. This is something normal that Countries and alliances do
  3. Media, however, misinforms and tells people that Country is about to invade or cause WW3
  4. This leads to heightened nationalism and support for war/military industrial complex
  5. Country stops moving troops around
  6. Media finds to other countries to fearmonger about.

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CableZL
01/25/22 2:27:22 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
It goes like this:

Countries move troops near their borders
This is something normal that Countries and alliances do
Media, however, misinforms and tells people that Country is about to invade or cause WW3
This leads to heightened nationalism and support for war/military industrial complex
Country stops moving troops around
Media finds to other countries to fearmonger about.

So now you've changed your point entirely. First you said countries move troops because of media fear-mongering. Now you're saying countries move troops and then the media fear-mongers about it, which still means the countries didn't move troops because of fear-mongering. If the fear-mongering comes after the countries move troops, then the countries didn't make the decision to move troops because of the fear-mongering that happened afterward.

Your premise is still ridiculous.

In this Ukraine-Russia issue, the US has sent weapons to Ukraine and we've ordered our citizens out of our embassy in Ukraine. That doesn't happen because of media fear-mongering.

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Underpants
01/25/22 2:28:55 PM
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He was already Thor, so how did they get him in Red Dawn?
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pick4six
01/25/22 2:59:47 PM
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some ppl r just extremely uneducated thats all I gotta say about this thread

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 4:16:49 PM
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Point:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/25/europe/ukraine-nato-russia-coverage-tv-media-cmd-intl/index.html

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MixedRaceBaby
01/25/22 4:26:23 PM
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undefined posted...
This happens every few months, and nothing ever comes out of it.
whens the last time it happened?

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Funkydog
01/25/22 4:26:36 PM
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I'm sure glad Russia hasn't forcibly taken over several other countries in recent years, including parts of Ukraine.

We're all just getting worried over nothing! Those troops on the border? Actually just dog walkers.

get a grip folks!

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David1988
01/25/22 4:53:47 PM
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TC is being foolish, there isnt one iota of fear mongering on how the media reports news

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ThyCorndog
01/25/22 4:55:28 PM
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TC are you a Russian bot

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Sir_Gawain
01/25/22 5:02:50 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
TC are you a Russian bot
He shills for any formerly communist government

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BlackOmnimon
01/25/22 5:17:15 PM
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David1988 posted...
TC is being foolish, there isnt one iota of fear mongering on how the media reports news

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YellowSUV
01/25/22 7:40:02 PM
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onedarksoul
01/25/22 8:14:53 PM
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The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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ScazarMeltex
01/25/22 8:19:21 PM
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486081413631913985
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486083060177195014
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486112777534164993
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486120508282347520
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486128138895646720
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1486139945752449029

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SergeantGander
01/25/22 8:19:36 PM
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Guys remember how bad WW3 was? It was all we heard about the beginning of 2020, pre-Covid.

Please don't put us through another horrendous time like that!!!!!!!!!!!

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BlackOmnimon
01/26/22 12:24:17 PM
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Gonna bump this thread to rub it in CE's face when nothing happens.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/26/22 12:26:13 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Gonna bump this thread to rub it in CE's face when nothing happens.
Pretty much

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Sir_Gawain
01/26/22 12:31:12 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Gonna bump this thread to rub it in CE's face when nothing happens.
You realize we all *want* nothing to happen, yes? Stfu

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deanshow
01/26/22 12:34:10 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
Gonna bump this thread to rub it in CE's face when nothing happens.
We don't want anything to happen you ghoul

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CableZL
01/26/22 12:46:55 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty clear that TC has trouble making a logical point. We don't want anything to happen, and any notion that someone on CE wants war to happen is, to put it bluntly, stupid.

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JimmyFraska
01/26/22 12:48:23 PM
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It's a fake war for sure. Not fake as in people not dying (they are), but fake like the US invading the middle east in the 2000s. Unnecessary and only being done to move pieces, and not for whatever reasons the media says. If Americans fall for it and join in, we deserve to be slaves.
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