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Duncanwii 12/30/21 2:13:25 PM #52:	ImAMarvel posted... And what happens if he just refuses to stand down? Then he's trespassing and he gets ejected from the military base. --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends Donkey Kong is my friend! Come back anytime DK, don't be a stranger! <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:961333143] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>ImAMarvel posted...</cite> <quote>And what happens if he just refuses to stand down?</quote> Then he's trespassing and he gets ejected from the military base.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/30/21 2:15:40 PM #53:	It wouldn't be a war it would just be the far right trying to kill people indiscriminately --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:961333205] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>It wouldn't be a war it would just be the far right trying to kill people indiscriminately </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 12/30/21 2:18:23 PM #55:	@ImAMarvel @Duncanwii I just wanna make sure that I'm following this. We're talking about a General in the National Guard, no? <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:961333261] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>@ImAMarvel @Duncanwii I just wanna make sure that I'm following this. We're talking about a General in the National Guard, no? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 12/30/21 2:19:03 PM #56:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AACE4xAACvkL.png --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence. <cite>rexcrk posted [p:961333283] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AACE4xAACvkL.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 12/30/21 2:20:10 PM #57:	Esrac posted... You don't know what you're talking about. It is one thing to attack people in another country to promote the interests of your own. It is another to expect them to be entirely okay with bombing their own people, without dissent. Just the fact that you would say they would "definitely" do it because it is "literally their job" demonstrates how out of touch you are. If you tell soldiers to attack their home states, the likely response you'll get is "Shit, no." I like how you're disagreeing with me but not the person I originally replied to, who basically said the same thing lol And if you tell soldiers to do that without provocation, sure. But if you tell soldiers to engage violent enemy combatants, who just happen to live in those states, they'd likely be fine with that. Nobody's talking about them indiscriminately dropping bombs on their home towns smh. That's a strawman you made up. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:961333309] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>You don't know what you're talking about. It is one thing to attack people in another country to promote the interests of your own. It is another to expect them to be entirely okay with bombing their own people, without dissent. Just the fact that you would say they would "definitely" do it because it is "literally their job" demonstrates how out of touch you are. If you tell soldiers to attack their home states, the likely response you'll get is "Shit, no."</quote>I like how you're disagreeing with me but not the person I originally replied to, who basically said the same thing lol And if you tell soldiers to do that without provocation, sure. But if you tell soldiers to engage violent enemy combatants, who just happen to live in those states, they'd likely be fine with that. Nobody's talking about them indiscriminately dropping bombs on their home towns smh. That's a strawman you made up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 12/30/21 2:20:43 PM #58:	Honestly I haven't the faintest clue what the NG's command structure for senior officers looks like. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:961333317] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Honestly I haven't the faintest clue what the NG's command structure for senior officers looks like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 12/30/21 2:27:46 PM #60:	In the sense of the states seceeding and geographical lines being drawn? No. There will likely be sectarian violence that will tacitly sanctioned by those in power though. This is in fact already happening to a degree. When you compare the charges and sentences against social or racial justice protestors against those recieved by people who were attempting a coup on Jan 6 you'll notice a staggering difference. Also look at the treatment by police that hard right organizations like patriot prayer, patriot front, and the proud boys recieve vs how the police respond BLM or other more left leaning groups. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:961333474] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>In the sense of the states seceeding and geographical lines being drawn? No. There will likely be sectarian violence that will tacitly sanctioned by those in power though. This is in fact already happening to a degree. When you compare the charges and sentences against social or racial justice protestors against those recieved by people who were attempting a coup on Jan 6 you'll notice a staggering difference. Also look at the treatment by police that hard right organizations like patriot prayer, patriot front, and the proud boys recieve vs how the police respond BLM or other more left leaning groups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/30/21 3:11:14 PM #61:	lolife67 posted... I like how you're disagreeing with me but not the person I originally replied to, who basically said the same thing lol And if you tell soldiers to do that without provocation, sure. But if you tell soldiers to engage violent enemy combatants, who just happen to live in those states, they'd likely be fine with that. Nobody's talking about them indiscriminately dropping bombs on their home towns smh. That's a strawman you made up. Question that was asked "do you think soldiers from southern states would drop bombs on their own people?" Your answer: "If they're a threat to the US. Definitely. That is literally their job." The proposed scenario is apparently a violent civil war between the North vs South, not just small, independent groups of terrorists. If there were a Civil War declared between factions of the states, there would be a schism in the military. Trusting that the military would be totally loyal to the federal government in that situation is naive, at best. Military personnel wouldn't be any more immune to divide loyalties in that situation than anyone. In a factionist civil war, for the troops who come from the southern states to side with the northern government, or vice versa, then that would necessitate they be willing to attack the citizens of their home states. Because it is those people who would make up whatever local armed forces, industries, and civilian leadership in the secessionist states. And I'm telling you that isnt something you can reasonably expect from them. Now, if your position is not that troops from secessionist states, presumably the south, wouldn't have a problem attacking their home states, by all means correct my understanding of your point. <cite>Esrac posted [p:961334583] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>I like how you're disagreeing with me but not the person I originally replied to, who basically said the same thing lol And if you tell soldiers to do that without provocation, sure. But if you tell soldiers to engage violent enemy combatants, who just happen to live in those states, they'd likely be fine with that. Nobody's talking about them indiscriminately dropping bombs on their home towns smh. That's a strawman you made up.</quote> Question that was asked "do you think soldiers from southern states would drop bombs on their own people?" Your answer: "If they're a threat to the US. Definitely. That is literally their job." The proposed scenario is apparently a violent civil war between the North vs South, not just small, independent groups of terrorists. If there were a Civil War declared between factions of the states, there would be a schism in the military. Trusting that the military would be totally loyal to the federal government in that situation is naive, at best. Military personnel wouldn't be any more immune to divide loyalties in that situation than anyone. In a factionist civil war, for the troops who come from the southern states to side with the northern government, or vice versa, then that would necessitate they be willing to attack the citizens of their home states. Because it is those people who would make up whatever local armed forces, industries, and civilian leadership in the secessionist states. And I'm telling you that isnt something you can reasonably expect from them. Now, if your position is not that troops from secessionist states, presumably the south, wouldn't have a problem attacking their home states, by all means correct my understanding of your point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 12/30/21 3:17:42 PM #62:	Esrac posted... Question that was asked "do you think soldiers from southern states would drop bombs on their own people?" Your answer: "If they're a threat to the US. Definitely. That is literally their job." The proposed scenario is apparently a violent civil war between the North vs South, not just small, independent groups of terrorists. If there were a Civil War declared between factions of the states, there would be a schism in the military. Trusting that the military would be totally loyal to the federal government in that situation is naive, at best. Military personnel wouldn't be any more immune to divide loyalties in that situation than anyone. In a factionist civil war, for the troops who come from the southern states to side with the northern government, or vice versa, then that would necessitate they be willing to attack the citizens of their home states. Because it is those people who would make up whatever local armed forces, industries, and civilian leadership in the secessionist states. And I'm telling you that isnt something you can reasonably expect from them. Now, if your position is not that troops from secessionist states, presumably the south, wouldn't have a problem attacking their home states, by all means correct my understanding of your point. But here's the thing... The chain of command will eventually get to a spot where everyone is on the same side, and could/would easily shut down whatever attempt the "defectors" make. You'll then basically have men with guns fighting men with guns, tanks, planes, and full control of most tactical weaponry. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:961334750] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Question that was asked "do you think soldiers from southern states would drop bombs on their own people?" Your answer: "If they're a threat to the US. Definitely. That is literally their job." The proposed scenario is apparently a violent civil war between the North vs South, not just small, independent groups of terrorists. If there were a Civil War declared between factions of the states, there would be a schism in the military. Trusting that the military would be totally loyal to the federal government in that situation is naive, at best. Military personnel wouldn't be any more immune to divide loyalties in that situation than anyone. In a factionist civil war, for the troops who come from the southern states to side with the northern government, or vice versa, then that would necessitate they be willing to attack the citizens of their home states. Because it is those people who would make up whatever local armed forces, industries, and civilian leadership in the secessionist states. And I'm telling you that isnt something you can reasonably expect from them. Now, if your position is not that troops from secessionist states, presumably the south, wouldn't have a problem attacking their home states, by all means correct my understanding of your point.</quote>But here's the thing... The chain of command will eventually get to a spot where everyone is on the same side, and could/would easily shut down whatever attempt the "defectors" make. You'll then basically have men with guns fighting men with guns, tanks, planes, and full control of most tactical weaponry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterVading 12/30/21 3:22:01 PM #63:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Cause that worked so well for Afghanistan... --- Wat. <cite>MasterVading posted [p:961334845] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Cause that worked so well for Afghanistan... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 12/30/21 4:17:11 PM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] lol and this is why we're going to have one when one group labels the other as terrorists and insurrectionists. --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:961336151] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> lol and this is why we're going to have one when one group labels the other as terrorists and insurrectionists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 12/30/21 4:18:28 PM #65:	WalkingLobsters posted... lol and this is why we're going to have one when one group labels the other as terrorists and insurrectionists. Was Jan 6th just a happy field trip? --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:961336174] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>lol and this is why we're going to have one when one group labels the other as terrorists and insurrectionists.</quote> Was Jan 6th just a happy field trip? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 12/30/21 4:21:05 PM #66:	rexcrk posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AACE4xAACvkL.png Now I have the mental image of Snape accusing Harry of being the product of a bankrupt culture who thinks he's John Wayne or Rambo. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:961336253] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AACE4xAACvkL.png</quote> Now I have the mental image of Snape accusing Harry of being the product of a bankrupt culture who thinks he's John Wayne or Rambo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 12/30/21 4:24:43 PM #67:	Taharqa_ posted... Was Jan 6th just a happy field trip? when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:961336354] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>Was Jan 6th just a happy field trip?</quote>when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 12/30/21 4:27:51 PM #68:	WalkingLobsters posted... when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians There were literally people in the Capitol ON FILM saying they were there to stop the certification of election results. That's a little bit more than just a protest. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:961336439] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians</quote>There were literally people in the Capitol ON FILM saying they were there to stop the certification of election results. That's a little bit more than just a protest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 12/30/21 4:30:37 PM #69:	bigblu89 posted... There were literally people in the Capitol ON FILM saying they were there to stop the certification of election results. That's a little bit more than just a protest. brave revolutionaries --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:961336518] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite> <quote>There were literally people in the Capitol ON FILM saying they were there to stop the certification of election results. That's a little bit more than just a protest.</quote>brave revolutionaries </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 12/30/21 4:31:34 PM #70:	WalkingLobsters posted... when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians LOL, bullshit. That wasn't a protest, that was a mob that turned the Capitol into a medieval battle scene like something straight out of Eastern Europe in order to install Trump as Dear Leader. Their goal was to literally stop the certification of election results, get to the VP (who they had a gallows outside for) and the Democratic lawmakers to do God knows what to if they got a hold of them. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:961336542] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians</quote> LOL, bullshit. That wasn't a protest, that was a mob that turned the Capitol into a medieval battle scene like something straight out of Eastern Europe in order to install Trump as Dear Leader. Their goal was to literally stop the certification of election results, get to the VP (who they had a gallows outside for) and the Democratic lawmakers to do God knows what to if they got a hold of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 12/30/21 4:33:04 PM #71:	Taharqa_ posted... LOL, bullshit. That wasn't a protest, that was a mob that turned the Capitol into a medieval battle scene like something straight out of Eastern Europe in order to install Trump as Dear Leader. Their goal was to literally stop the certification of election results, get to the VP (who they had a gallows outside for) and the Democratic lawmakers to do God knows what to if they got a hold of them. those are some strong leaps in logic --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:961336577] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>LOL, bullshit. That wasn't a protest, that was a mob that turned the Capitol into a medieval battle scene like something straight out of Eastern Europe in order to install Trump as Dear Leader. Their goal was to literally stop the certification of election results, get to the VP (who they had a gallows outside for) and the Democratic lawmakers to do God knows what to if they got a hold of them.</quote>those are some strong leaps in logic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 12/30/21 4:33:29 PM #72:	WalkingLobsters posted... those are some strong leaps in logic LOL, tagged. Moving on. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:961336589] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>those are some strong leaps in logic</quote> LOL, tagged. Moving on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 12/30/21 4:34:49 PM #73:	Taharqa_ posted... LOL, tagged. Moving on. LOL LOL LOL i can type LOL in all caps too --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:961336619] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>LOL, tagged. Moving on.</quote> LOL LOL LOL i can type LOL in all caps too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 12/30/21 4:36:59 PM #74:	WalkingLobsters posted... LOL LOL LOL i can type LOL in all caps too You also type like someone that stormed the Capitol on Jan 6th too. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:961336676] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>LOL LOL LOL i can type LOL in all caps too</quote> You also type like someone that stormed the Capitol on Jan 6th too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 12/30/21 4:39:44 PM #75:	If it happens America is fucked for good It won't --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:961336752] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>If it happens America is fucked for good It won't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/30/21 4:48:42 PM #76:	WalkingLobsters posted... those are some strong leaps in logic no its pretty sound --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:961336974] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>those are some strong leaps in logic</quote> no its pretty sound </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/30/21 9:26:31 PM #77:	WalkingLobsters posted... when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians Coup: a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Their goal on Jan 6th was the prevention of the certification of the electoral college so that Trump could be installed as president. What they did fits the definition of a coup. Sedition is a crime punishable by up to 20 years in civilian court and death under the UCMJ. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:961343273] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>WalkingLobsters posted... </cite> <quote>when a group is unhappy they protest. I'd prefer they protest against our leaders than burning down local businesses and murdering civilians</quote>Coup: a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government. Their goal on Jan 6th was the prevention of the certification of the electoral college so that Trump could be installed as president. What they did fits the definition of a coup. Sedition is a crime punishable by up to 20 years in civilian court and death under the UCMJ. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/31/21 11:09:13 AM #79:	Maybe it will just collapse --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:961355286] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>Maybe it will just collapse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/31/21 11:32:58 AM #80:	hockeybub89 posted... Maybe it will just collapse I mean that's really how most civil wars happen. Stuff like the War of the Roses or the American Civil War are atypical of most civil wars. More often throughout history when countries break apart it looks more Syria, or the Warlords period of China (1916-1928). --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:961355871] in Do you thi... [t:79832415]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it will just collapse</quote>I mean that's really how most civil wars happen. Stuff like the War of the Roses or the American Civil War are atypical of most civil wars. More often throughout history when countries break apart it looks more Syria, or the Warlords period of China (1916-1928). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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