Current Events > can you actually learn how to code from codeacademy? Says you can become a full

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stack engineer? Beginners welcome? and you get a certification of completion (how credible is it?)
Not sure if there's a catch doing this vs taking a course at a local community college for 4x the cost.

Best thing to do is go to college.

If thats not an option, the second best thing to do is find a beginner language, find some non-outdated books, watch a few videos on YouTube or Udemy, and then start coding. When you get stuck on something, dont just look up an answer, but figure out how you can solve it on your own.

Unless they include a trans flag pattern pair of long socks, a skirt, and a dog collar there's no way you'll learn to code like a pro.

those certs mean nothing, the curriculum is also stupid-easy like literally a middle-schooler could get through it. same goes for freecodecamp.

if your plan is "learn web dev and try to get a job in under a year or two" then do this:
https://www.theodinproject.com/
and yes you have to install linux just do it they literally idiot-proof it for you

if your plan is "i wanna simulate an actual brainiac CS degree in my bedroom" then do this:
https://www.coursera.org/learn/cs-programming-java
and if you finish it then DM me for the next 14 courses

I learned PHP in a week.
...from several years of ASP and Java

If you know any of the {} languages, you can half-ass your way through any other.

KhlavicLanguage posted...

those certs mean nothing, the curriculum is also stupid-easy like literally a middle-schooler could get through it. same goes for freecodecamp.

if your plan is "learn web dev and try to get a job in under a year or two" then do this:
https://www.theodinproject.com/
and yes you have to install linux just do it they literally idiot-proof it for you

if your plan is "i wanna simulate an actual brainiac CS degree in my bedroom" then do this:
https://www.coursera.org/learn/cs-programming-java
and if you finish it then DM me for the next 14 courses

holy moly, thank you!

also keep in mind there is a fairly large gap between what they teach at codeacademy/freecodecamp/bootcamps/etc (developing websites and web applications) versus what you would learn at a college (computational science with a side of math and a sprinkle of electronics engineering)

the overlap has been blurred in the past few years because of the explosion of jobs in the former group and the ease at which the latter group can learn those skills given what they've already been through

HTML5/CSS3 aren't even programming languages.
HTML is a document format, and CSS is a description of what it needs to look like.

Anything you want to know, I can teach you, but I come from an early 90s paradigm of "never give it more than it needs".
Library bloat is the dark side, and the only indulgence worth a damn is jQuery.

i learned native html5 and css3, javascript (but now forgotten), php, but not any newer features like css grid. i then never used any of it and moved onto c++ and powershell
i dont understand frameworks and shit. they make my head spin. how can i understand them. they all seem like zoomer flavour of the month shit, why not pick something robust thats been around for a while and will still be good 10 years from now? nosql seems dumb

Kloe_Rinz posted...

why not pick something robust thats been around for a while and will still be good 10 years from now?

Anything that compiles to CSS can be entirely done in CSS.
SASS and LESS are bloated disasters.

Questionmarktarius posted...

HTML5/CSS3 aren't even programming languages.
HTML is a document format, and CSS is a description of what it needs to look like.

Anything you want to know, I can teach you, but I come from an early 90s paradigm of "never give it more than it needs".
Library bloat is the dark side, and the only indulgence worth a damn is jQuery.

jQuery? Is that even needed with all the modern features that browsers support out of the box?

1337toothbrush posted...

jQuery? Is that even needed with all the modern features that browsers support out of the box?

Not really, but its $(object).thing().anotherThing().somethingElse(function(){}, callback(){}); syntax is a bit simpler than setting up a bunch of event listeners in vanilla js.

jQuery is basically dead these days. Everyone has moved on to angular and/or node. If you learn jQuery you will be supporting mostly legacy applications. I recommend learning vanilla js anyway as sometimes it's easier to do it the hard way.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Everyone has moved on to angular and/or node.

I'd rather slog through vanilla js than deal with either or those.

Questionmarktarius posted...

I'd rather slog through vanilla js than deal with either or those.

Node is unavoidable at this point feels like. We're a complete Windows shop and all our backend is compiled assemblies and somehow I elected to install a tool for support that uses node so I ended up having to use both node and coffeescript to work this fucking thing.

If you're doing web apps instead of web sites, you'd be pretty dumb to not use node though.
Otherwise, you're either rebuilding the wheel each time, or cobbling together legacy jank that doesn't mesh well and needs hacky "bridge" coding to not roll over and die immediately.