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DarthAragorn
12/11/21 5:05:16 PM
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We used to kill fascists...

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Tmaster148
12/11/21 5:06:02 PM
#53:


goldenBoi45 posted...
Omg, I'm not playing sides here. Echo Chambers are bad no matter what side they're on. cE just happens to be left leaning. I'm 31 years old, I've sat through Bush AND Trump and watching those shit shows I would never call myself a Republican.

I just miss the diversity of thought and constant debates that used to make CE entertaining and enjoyable. Now it's just a bunch of people going "omg! Look what they did NOW!" and circle jerking about how terrible things have become.

What happened to politically balanced CE? The_Admiral was the only hardcore right winger we had left and you guys just had to turbo ban him out of existence. Now what do we have? Half the people who recognize me on this board think I'm crazy just because I share far right ideas from time to time. Usually as a joke.

You know the right literally tried an insurrection. Like idk what political balance you want when it's already been shown that the right isn't interested in a discussion.


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Taharqa_
12/11/21 5:06:13 PM
#54:


LightHawKnight posted...
Slaps on the wrists doesnt give any faith in the government. It tells the traitors that they can easily do it again and face little to no consequences for literally storming the capitol to overturn an election.

A cop that was among the insurrectionists only got 45 days in jail. I guess he needed to be accused of stealing a backpack or enrolling his kid in another school district to actually get some years.

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Zikten
12/11/21 5:25:57 PM
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20 years in prison for everyone involved in Jan 6th sounds good to me
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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 6:39:47 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
You know the right literally tried an insurrection. Like idk what political balance you want when it's already been shown that the right isn't interested in a discussion.
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced

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Southernfatman
12/11/21 6:47:20 PM
#57:


goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced

Republican politicians are catering to those extreme types and are totally for ending democracy in this country. The GOP is Qanon now. If you still vote Republican, you're part of the problem.

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ThanksUglyGod
12/11/21 6:51:44 PM
#58:


goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right.
Align with and win Republican primaries in safe red districts...
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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 6:51:58 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Republican politicians are catering to those extreme types and are totally for ending democracy in this country. The GOP is Qanon now. If you still vote Republican, you're part of the problem.
Pretty ironic how you claim Republicans want to end democracy, yet you personally think only one party isn't a problem.

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Southernfatman
12/11/21 6:56:32 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Pretty ironic how you claim Republicans want to end democracy, yet you personally think only one party isn't a problem.

Democrats suck hardcore too. Just not nearly as much as Republicans do. And yeah Republicans do want to end democracy. Look how much they've been promoting fascist bullshit lately.

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Tmaster148
12/11/21 6:57:38 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced

You're either really naive or trying to pretend that the right isn't the Qanon party.

Current political climate is a bunch of insane conspiracy theorists getting validated by republicans looking to gain power and people who are rational forced to back democrats because they aren't the other party.


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hockeybub89
12/11/21 6:58:15 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced
Republicans want to debate whether or not we should care about global pandemics and whether trans people should be allowed to transition. Or if women should be allowed to have bodily autonomy.

It's bullshit because they want to debate topics where compromise is basically logically impossible and means "the democrats give us everything and fuck off" to them.

It's like the bully stealing lunch money and then going "I'm trying to coexist here" when the nerd refuses to let him have it and the principal gets involved. And people like you fall for it despite them not even hiding how little of a fuck they give.

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metralo
12/11/21 6:58:37 PM
#63:


goldenBoi45 posted...
Pretty ironic how you claim Republicans want to end democracy, yet you personally think only one party isn't a problem.

the democrats want to turn us into a fascist authoritarian country?

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ScazarMeltex
12/11/21 7:00:28 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced
Then why won't the GOP participate in any meaningful investigation into it?

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 7:57:16 PM
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metralo posted...
the democrats want to turn us into a fascist authoritarian country?
Nope, just a Marxist authoritarian one. Two sides of the same, shitty totalitarian coin. I support neither. Just look at Soviet Russia.

Because I know that choosing a side is futile I just work hard as I can to make sure my life and the life of the people I care about is as good as possible. In reality it's all that most of us can do and it makes ones life infinitely better than having this defeatist attitude most people seem to have adopted.

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 7:59:10 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Republicans want to debate whether or not we should care about global pandemics and whether trans people should be allowed to transition. Or if women should be allowed to have bodily autonomy.

It's bullshit because they want to debate topics where compromise is basically logically impossible and means "the democrats give us everything and fuck off" to them.

It's like the bully stealing lunch money and then going "I'm trying to coexist here" when the nerd refuses to let him have it and the principal gets involved. And people like you fall for it despite them not even hiding how little of a fuck they give.
Just because democratic politicians hide how little of a fuck they give, doesn't mean that they give any more of a fuck

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:00:47 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Then why won't the GOP participate in any meaningful investigation into it?
Maybe because it was an utter failure and not really as important as you all are making it seem? And last I checked the people involved are being held accountable and information about that day is still coming out

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hockeybub89
12/11/21 8:01:19 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Nope, just a Marxist authoritarian one. Two sides of the same, shitty totalitarian coin. I support neither. Just look at Soviet Russia.

Because I know that choosing a side is futile I just work hard as I can to make sure my life and the life of the people I care about is as good as possible. In reality it's all that most of us can do and it makes ones life infinitely better than having this defeatist attitude most people seem to have adopted.
Imagine comparing the Democrats to fucking Soviet Russia. Free healthcare makes their teeth itch, but somehow they're full blown Marxists?

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hockeybub89
12/11/21 8:03:20 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Maybe because it was an utter failure and not really as important as you all are making it seem? And last I checked the people involved are being held accountable and information about that day is still coming out
Remember: It's ok to plan and attempt terrible crimes as long as you fail at the end.

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LightHawKnight
12/11/21 8:04:41 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Maybe because it was an utter failure and not really as important as you all are making it seem? And last I checked the people involved are being held accountable and information about that day is still coming out

Wow imagine thinking a failed coup is not important when none of the masterminds got any punishment. Tagged as evil.

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:07:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Remember: It's ok to plan and attempt terrible crimes as long as you fail at the end.
Never said it was OK. People acting like everyone involved should be thrown into Guantanamo Bay though are overreacting a bit.

That "insurrection" was more of a wake up call about the amount of people in this country with undiagnosed mental illness than anything else. I honestly see the same level of stupidity when I go out to the riots. People are just, unhappy it seems. All over.

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MasterVading
12/11/21 8:08:45 PM
#72:


Smackems posted...
Justice for juicy

They caught the guy and was found guilty on 5 of 6 charges.
#Justicewasserved

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:08:51 PM
#73:


LightHawKnight posted...
Wow imagine thinking a failed coup is not important when none of the masterminds got any punishment. Tagged as evil.
Masterminds? You mean internet trolls? Q was most likely just an anonymous troll and you guys are acting like this shit goes all the way to the top. Fucking spare me

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LightHawKnight
12/11/21 8:10:02 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Masterminds? You mean internet trolls? Q was most likely just an anonymous troll and you guys are acting like this shit goes all the way to the top. Fucking spare me

Wow how evil are you? Or stupid?

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wiiking96
12/11/21 8:12:37 PM
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Liberals have always been incompetent at resisting facism. "Hey woah woah woah! We cant just call them fascists if they don't openly identify as fascists!" Surely they can be reasoned with!" Cries your Pelosis of the world, gesturing at politicians allied with people who post Nazi memes.

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:19:47 PM
#76:


LightHawKnight posted...
Wow how evil are you? Or stupid?
Please, enlighten me on what I've missed. All I saw on January 6th was an unruly mob spun out of control like what happens with most of these "protests". If that was an attempted coup it was the worst one of all time.

Half of those poor fools thought there'd be a bunker of child sex slaves to rescue once inside. It was more sad than "evil" or whatever conspiracy theory you seem to have

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LightHawKnight
12/11/21 8:20:53 PM
#77:


goldenBoi45 posted...
Please, enlighten me on what I've missed. All I saw on January 6th was an unruly mob spun out of control like what happens with most of these "protests". If that was an attempted coup it was the worst one of all time.

Half of those poor fools thought there'd be a bunker of child sex slaves to rescue once inside. It was more sad than "evil" or whatever conspiracy theory you seem to have

Apparently you missed that rally that Trump held. The one where he told people to march to the capital. The one where Mo Brooks wore a bulletproof vest while speaking at.

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DrizztLink
12/11/21 8:30:47 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced
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Umbreon
12/11/21 8:39:37 PM
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Goldenboi talking a lot for someone who 'barely posts' in an alleged echo chamber.

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DrizztLink
12/11/21 8:41:59 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Goldenboi talking a lot for someone who 'barely posts' in an alleged echo chamber.
And following people into other topics, no less.

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PlantBased
12/11/21 8:43:39 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Goldenboi talking a lot for someone who 'barely posts' in an alleged echo chamber.
This is his gimmick. He regularly drops in, says something flagrantly stupid and inflammatory, doubles/triples/quadruples down until he's warned, then acts like everyone else is the problem and that he's so above everyone and everything here. People fall for it every time.
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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:44:27 PM
#82:


I work 10 hours today. Outside of Reddit this hell hole is all I have at the moment

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Umbreon
12/11/21 8:47:09 PM
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PlantBased posted...
This is his gimmick. He regularly drops in, says something flagrantly stupid and inflammatory, doubles/triples/quadruples down until he's warned, then acts like everyone else is the problem and that he's so above everyone and everything here. People fall for it every time.

Gotcha. I certainly won't be wasting my time engaging that.

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goldenBoi45
12/11/21 8:49:01 PM
#84:


PlantBased posted...
This is his gimmick. He regularly drops in, says something flagrantly stupid and inflammatory, doubles/triples/quadruples down until he's warned, then acts like everyone else is the problem and that he's so above everyone and everything here. People fall for it every time.
What stupid and inflammatory things have I said? That Dave Chappelle's latest special was misunderstood? That Santa Inc. is trash and Seth Rogen is a hack? That new woke Candyman sucked? That covid is overblown and just a massive wealth transfer? Alot of people actually agree with me on these things, they just don't post here. You know that a world exists outside this board, right?

Also define "regularly drops in" because I haven't been here all week

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ScazarMeltex
12/11/21 9:00:40 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Maybe because it was an utter failure and not really as important as you all are making it seem? And last I checked the people involved are being held accountable and information about that day is still coming out
Attempting a coup is sedition. Sedition is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. For any military involved the punishment could be deatg under the UCMJ. Yet all of these people are still out walking around. None have been charged with the actual crime they commited, which is sedition.

Trying to claim it's not a big deal because it failed it the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard. Imagine trying to rob a bank or murder someone and using that as a defense.

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Ruvan22
12/13/21 11:08:37 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
That wasn't the right. That was Qanon. A group of idiots who happen to align themselves with the right. And if we're talking about discussions I've honestly seen way more people on "the right" who are willing to discuss and debate their ideals than I have the left. Liberals don't want to debate republicans, they want them to be silenced
A) Almost half of current Republicans support what happened on 1/6, so no, it's not just Qanon
B) Which major figures on the right have said they are willing to listen and compromise? Trump, McConnell, McCarthy, Tucker Carlson, etc all have said there is NO compromise
C) Where did you get the "50 % of the insurrectionist thought there'd be children in bunkers"?
D) Are you saying all Republicans who believe in "an invisible enemy" don't have their shit together?
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PlantBased
12/14/21 5:23:15 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
What stupid and inflammatory things have I said? That Dave Chappelle's latest special was misunderstood? That Santa Inc. is trash and Seth Rogen is a hack? That new woke Candyman sucked? That covid is overblown and just a massive wealth transfer? Alot of people actually agree with me on these things, they just don't post here. You know that a world exists outside this board, right?

Also define "regularly drops in" because I haven't been here all week
Uh, I was defending you. Save this kind of content for the others.
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goldenBoi45
12/14/21 6:36:14 PM
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PlantBased posted...
Uh, I was defending you. Save this kind of content for the others.
Saying that I'm trolling and have a gimmick isn't exactly defending me but ok
Ruvan22 posted...
A) Almost half of current Republicans support what happened on 1/6, so no, it's not just Qanon
B) Which major figures on the right have said they are willing to listen and compromise? Trump, McConnell, McCarthy, Tucker Carlson, etc all have said there is NO compromise
C) Where did you get the "50 % of the insurrectionist thought there'd be children in bunkers"?
D) Are you saying all Republicans who believe in "an invisible enemy" don't have their shit together?
@goldenBoi45
A) I would need to see the data on that. My "half of the people storming the capital" statement was just an expression. You seem to really think that half of Republicans support this and I seriously doubt that
B) I'm talking about Republicans I talk to IRL, not divisive media personalities and politicians most Republicans I talk to don't trust politicians or the media and don't even listen to those guys nor did they even support Trump getting into office. I talk to actual people on the right, not the Nazi super villains you seem to think exist in hordes in this country. Some of you sound like Seth Rogen with how you perceive people not on the left.
C) it was just an expression. However that was pretty much the belief of alot of these crazy Qanon conspiracy theorists who stormed the capital. Are we really gonna pretend that small group was representative of how all Republicans think and act?
D) yes. Those people also do not have their shit together. They're nutjobs. Anyone who resorts to that level of extremism has serious problems that they need to deal with. I'm not a fucking Republican. I just don't believe all of the holier than thou horseshit you guys shovel from the left. Just as many fucking crazies on that side.

Shit, I've heard people on here openly showing glee that covid is killing people who didn't get vaccinated. Saying that this was an excellent way to "wipe out the other side." Saying shit like that is a sign that you have problems, and need to actually go out and have a conversation with some of these people you claim to hate.

With the amount of topics I see on here of people who "can't get out of bed" and "hate life" yet I should take their extreme political opinions as levelheaded and fair? Please.

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PlantBased
12/14/21 8:04:52 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Saying that I'm trolling and have a gimmick isn't exactly defending me but ok
It's a more accurate assessment of your (imo amusing) antics than what they tend to think of you.
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Antifar
12/14/21 8:09:55 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Alot of people actually agree with me on these things,
They're wrong too

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LightHawKnight
12/14/21 8:13:39 PM
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Man the coup power point, the text messages, the fact that republicans in office kept using private email and phones for government work.

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goldenBoi45
12/15/21 5:52:33 PM
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PlantBased posted...
It's a more accurate assessment of your (imo amusing) antics than what they tend to think of you.
I'll admit that most of my antics are just trolling. But only here because this topic is dead anyways.

I just really enjoy how upset and foaming at the mouth some of you get when someone dares to subvert your narrative

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