Current Events > "Constantinople falls to Ottoman Empire" Wtf? Anyone else see this?

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PurpleCosmic 12/09/21 4:07:05 PM #1:	Was reading news world today and came across this article: https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Constantinople,_Fall_of "The Fall of Constantinople was the conquest of the Byzantine capital by the Ottoman Empire under the command of Sultan Mehmed II... This marked not only the final destruction of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the death of Constantine XI, the last Byzantine emperor, but also the strategic conquest crucial for Ottoman rule over the Eastern Mediterranean and Balkans." Uh... why isn't anyone else reporting on this? Isn't this kind of a big deal? I went on NYT, WSJ, FOX, CNN - no one's running anything. Why don't they want people to know about this? --- My minerals. The octagons softly whisper in the autumn wind. https://imgur.com/ZnIR885 <cite>PurpleCosmic posted [p:960764565] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Was reading news world today and came across this article: https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Constantinople,_Fall_of "The Fall of Constantinople was the conquest of the Byzantine capital by the Ottoman Empire under the command of Sultan Mehmed II... This marked not only the final destruction of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the death of Constantine XI, the last Byzantine emperor, but also the strategic conquest crucial for Ottoman rule over the Eastern Mediterranean and Balkans." Uh... why isn't anyone else reporting on this? Isn't this kind of a big deal? I went on NYT, WSJ, FOX, CNN - no one's running anything. Why don't they want people to know about this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 12/09/21 4:07:53 PM #2:	Late breaking news. Really late breaking news. --- No tricks <cite>Criminalt posted [p:960764588] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Late breaking news. Really late breaking news. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 12/09/21 4:10:00 PM #4:	Great now there's gonna be copycats and false flags of this event. Stupid undergrads will defend it in their papers. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:960764631] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Great now there's gonna be copycats and false flags of this event. Stupid undergrads will defend it in their papers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 12/09/21 4:10:09 PM #5:	It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:960764636] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bladegash 12/09/21 4:10:40 PM #6:	Have some faith pasha --- Snappin necks & Cashin checks <cite>bladegash posted [p:960764649] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Have some faith pasha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 12/09/21 4:11:13 PM #7:	ThePieReborn posted... It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now. Why'd they change it? --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:960764663] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>ThePieReborn posted... </cite> <quote>It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now.</quote>Why'd they change it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrkHrdPlayHrdr 12/09/21 4:11:26 PM #8:	ThePieReborn posted... It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now. Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Edit: this would have been funnier as a reply to SSJKirbys question. Especially the last line of this song. --- "No. I'm a man so theyll get me a full size McDouble." - DuncanWii https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od <cite>WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted [p:960764669] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>ThePieReborn posted... </cite> <quote>It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now.</quote> Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Edit: this would have been funnier as a reply to SSJKirbys question. Especially the last line of this song. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/21 4:12:20 PM #9:	Byzantium was always the better name anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960764689] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Byzantium was always the better name anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 12/09/21 4:15:04 PM #10:	SSJKirby posted... Why'd they change it? Why'd they rename New Amsterdam? --- No tricks <cite>Criminalt posted [p:960764760] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>SSJKirby posted... </cite> <quote>Why'd they change it?</quote>Why'd they rename New Amsterdam? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 12/09/21 4:18:24 PM #13:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... big if true --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:960764839] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>big if true</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PurpleCosmic 12/09/21 4:20:51 PM #14:	Crono99 posted... The Byzantine empire was an empire in name only by that point. Their territory was barely more than the city itself. Conatantinople had been ravages by the bubonic plague and its population was just a fraction of what it once was. Most likely, it was doomed to dissappear. If the Ottomans hadn't invaded, Constantinople today would likely be nothing more than an archaeological site such as Babylon. The fall of Constantinople is a very misunderstood historical event. Dude.... 1) Too soon. It's way too soon to even begin to comment on & try to politicize this crap 2) Take your victim blaming & aggressor-apologist attitude down to Assholeville, you'll find like company there --- My minerals. The octagons softly whisper in the autumn wind. https://imgur.com/ZnIR885 <cite>PurpleCosmic posted [p:960764892] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>The Byzantine empire was an empire in name only by that point. Their territory was barely more than the city itself. Conatantinople had been ravages by the bubonic plague and its population was just a fraction of what it once was. Most likely, it was doomed to dissappear. If the Ottomans hadn't invaded, Constantinople today would likely be nothing more than an archaeological site such as Babylon. The fall of Constantinople is a very misunderstood historical event.</quote> Dude.... 1) Too soon. It's way too soon to even begin to comment on & try to politicize this crap 2) Take your victim blaming & aggressor-apologist attitude down to Assholeville, you'll find like company there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 12/09/21 4:20:54 PM #15:	Crono99 posted... If the Ottomans hadn't invaded, Constantinople today would likely be nothing more than an archaeological site such as Babylon. I disagree. The reason Byzantium was chosen to be the Eastern Roman Empire's capital was because it was strategically located. Someone would have moved in, if only for use of the Black Sea and a strait to the Mediterranean. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:960764896] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>If the Ottomans hadn't invaded, Constantinople today would likely be nothing more than an archaeological site such as Babylon.</quote>I disagree. The reason Byzantium was chosen to be the Eastern Roman Empire's capital was because it was strategically located. Someone would have moved in, if only for use of the Black Sea and a strait to the Mediterranean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 12/09/21 4:21:27 PM #16:	Cant be true, CNN hasnt confirmed yet --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://discord.gg/vzpsef2tJc - Join us for games \|\| https://bit.ly/39z7PHA - YouTube <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:960764910] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Cant be true, CNN hasnt confirmed yet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/09/21 4:25:08 PM #17:	Crono99 posted... Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name. It's crap like this why you're no longer a mod. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:960765032] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name.</quote> It's crap like this why you're no longer a mod. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lZUAL_REBlRTH 12/09/21 4:27:29 PM #19:	Mate. Just wait until you hear that we have two popes! <cite>lZUAL_REBlRTH posted [p:960765093] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Mate. Just wait until you hear that we have two popes! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 12/09/21 4:29:50 PM #20:	Crono99 posted... Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name. Akshually, the Greek name for the city was --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:960765161] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name.</quote>Akshually, the Greek name for the city was </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 12/09/21 4:32:56 PM #21:	WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted... Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Edit: this would have been funnier as a reply to SSJKirbys question. Especially the last line of this song. I heard this on the radio today and thought it was fun because I hadn't heard it in so long. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:960765256] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted... </cite> <quote>Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can't say People just liked it better that way So, take me back to Constantinople No, you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks Edit: this would have been funnier as a reply to SSJKirbys question. Especially the last line of this song.</quote>I heard this on the radio today and thought it was fun because I hadn't heard it in so long. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mcpwnia 12/09/21 4:37:30 PM #22:	--- http://i.minus.com/ieu2wE.gif https://imgur.com/gKHH1EP https://imgur.com/gwbShnd <cite>mcpwnia posted [p:960765358] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 12/09/21 4:37:58 PM #23:	Crono99 posted... One thing for sure is that the Byzantine empire as an entity was about to dissappear That was a given once the Crusade hit them instead of walking all the way to Jerusalem. I'm just saying the city was too well located to abandon. lZUAL_REBlRTH posted... Mate. Just wait until you hear that we have two popes! What? Does this mean I have to tithe twice?! --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:960765371] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>One thing for sure is that the Byzantine empire as an entity was about to dissappear</quote>That was a given once the Crusade hit them instead of walking all the way to Jerusalem. I'm just saying the city was too well located to abandon. lZUAL_REBlRTH posted... </cite> <quote>Mate. Just wait until you hear that we have two popes!</quote>What? Does this mean I have to tithe twice?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 12/09/21 4:40:57 PM #25:	Questionmarktarius posted... Byzantium was always the better name anyway. Very much agreed. <cite>garan posted [p:960765452] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Byzantium was always the better name anyway.</quote> Very much agreed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/21 4:41:02 PM #26:	Crazyman93 posted... What? Does this mean I have to tithe twice?! That's a bunch a crap. Someone needs to nail a complaint letter onto a door. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960765453] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>What? Does this mean I have to tithe twice?!</quote>That's a bunch a crap. Someone needs to nail a complaint letter onto a door. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 12/09/21 4:52:13 PM #28:	Let's not forget a rousing "fuck you" to the Franks, the Venetians, and Enrico Dandolo in particular. The blood of the Empire is on their hands. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:960765730] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Let's not forget a rousing "fuck you" to the Franks, the Venetians, and Enrico Dandolo in particular. The blood of the Empire is on their hands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/21 4:53:56 PM #29:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Let's not forget a rousing "fuck you" to the Franks, the Venetians, and Enrico Dandolo in particular. The blood of the Empire is on their hands. It's all Charlemagne's fault. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960765759] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>Let's not forget a rousing "fuck you" to the Franks, the Venetians, and Enrico Dandolo in particular. The blood of the Empire is on their hands.</quote>It's all Charlemagne's fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrkHrdPlayHrdr 12/09/21 5:03:57 PM #30:	Alteres posted... I heard this on the radio today and thought it was fun because I hadn't heard it in so long. It's a really catchy song. --- "No. I'm a man so theyll get me a full size McDouble." - DuncanWii https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od <cite>WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted [p:960766044] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite> <quote>I heard this on the radio today and thought it was fun because I hadn't heard it in so long.</quote> It's a really catchy song. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 12/09/21 5:09:57 PM #31:	ThePieReborn posted... It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now. #CancelCancelCulture --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:960766202] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>ThePieReborn posted... </cite> <quote>It's Istanbul, not Constantinople now.</quote>#CancelCancelCulture </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 12/09/21 5:14:23 PM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... It's all Charlemagne's fault. Damn Carolingians --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:960766322] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>It's all Charlemagne's fault.</quote>Damn Carolingians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJKirby 12/09/21 5:47:23 PM #34:	Crono99 posted... Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name. Oh I figured people just liked it better that way, I mean even old new York was once new Amsterdam. It happens --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:960767170] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Constantinople was the Greek name for the city, and it remained the official name throughout the Ottoman era until World War I. After the Ottoman empire collapsed, Turkish nationalists wanted the city to be called by its turkish name, Istanbul, instead of its greek name.</quote>Oh I figured people just liked it better that way, I mean even old new York was once new Amsterdam. It happens </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bladegash 12/09/21 9:00:43 PM #35:	Crazyman93 posted... That was a given once the Crusade hit them instead of walking all the way to Jerusalem. I'm just saying the city was too well located to abandon. Eh, the crusaders hit them first in 1203 to install Alexios as emperor, they actually wanted them on their side for payment. It wasnt until Alexios was assassinated and they had trouble reaching egypt and jerusalem to begin with that they decided to have a total sack of the city for payment for their failed crusade, to which they were excommunicated for by Pope Innocent. The Byzantine empire was still considered christian after all, and religion was politics back then. --- Snappin necks & Cashin checks <cite>bladegash posted [p:960773567] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>That was a given once the Crusade hit them instead of walking all the way to Jerusalem. I'm just saying the city was too well located to abandon.</quote> Eh, the crusaders hit them first in 1203 to install Alexios as emperor, they actually wanted them on their side for payment. It wasnt until Alexios was assassinated and they had trouble reaching egypt and jerusalem to begin with that they decided to have a total sack of the city for payment for their failed crusade, to which they were excommunicated for by Pope Innocent. The Byzantine empire was still considered christian after all, and religion was politics back then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 12/09/21 9:01:50 PM #36:	I'm Greek and we still call it Constantinople in Greek. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:960773624] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>I'm Greek and we still call it Constantinople in Greek. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannibalBarca3 12/09/21 9:02:17 PM #37:	Balkan nationalism is such a messy thing lmao --- Aut viam inveniam aut faciam. Will not change sig until the Tsar is put back in the Russian throne (July 08, 2010) <cite>HannibalBarca3 posted [p:960773636] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Balkan nationalism is such a messy thing lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 12/09/21 9:10:15 PM #39:	The 4th Crusades was an inside job Prove me wrong. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:960773972] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>The 4th Crusades was an inside job Prove me wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PurpleCosmic 12/10/21 1:24:25 PM #40:	furb posted... The 4th Crusades was an inside job Prove me wrong. Who left open the door of Constantinople? --- My minerals. The octagons softly whisper in the autumn wind. http://i.imgur.com/ZnIR885.jpg <cite>PurpleCosmic posted [p:960795706] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>furb posted... </cite> <quote>The 4th Crusades was an inside job Prove me wrong.</quote> Who left open the door of Constantinople? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/10/21 1:53:12 PM #41:	tommybel89 posted... I'm Greek and we still call it Constantinople in Greek. That seems very unreasonable and petty by Greece. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:960796488] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>tommybel89 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm Greek and we still call it Constantinople in Greek.</quote>That seems very unreasonable and petty by Greece. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/10/21 1:57:10 PM #42:	Crazyman93 posted... I disagree. The reason Byzantium was chosen to be the Eastern Roman Empire's capital was because it was strategically located. Someone would have moved in, if only for use of the Black Sea and a strait to the Mediterranean. I mean. Someone did move in >_> --- https://i.imgur.com/6cPXvLN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hVC4i6j.jpg <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:960796591] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>I disagree. The reason Byzantium was chosen to be the Eastern Roman Empire's capital was because it was strategically located. Someone would have moved in, if only for use of the Black Sea and a strait to the Mediterranean.</quote>I mean. Someone did move in >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 12/10/21 2:00:28 PM #43:	SSJKirby posted... Why'd they change it? Honestly I cant say, maybe people just liked it better that way? --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:960796677] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>SSJKirby posted... </cite> <quote>Why'd they change it?</quote>Honestly I cant say, maybe people just liked it better that way? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 12/10/21 7:42:06 PM #44:	DeadBankerDream posted... That seems very unreasonable and petty by Greece. I don't really have those hangups about it. My older relatives don't have nice things to say about Turks or Germans lmao. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:960805922] in "Cons... [t:79802702]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>That seems very unreasonable and petty by Greece.</quote>I don't really have those hangups about it. My older relatives don't have nice things to say about Turks or Germans lmao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > "Constantinople falls to Ottoman Empire" Wtf? Anyone else see this?