Current Events > GRRM begged HBO to make 10 seasons of Game of Thrones

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Because he lost faith in D and D.

"Dan and Dave were tired, rightfully so," Haas said in Miller's book. "They were done, and wanted to move on, so they cut it short and then negotiations became, how many seasons can we stretch this out? Because of course HBO wanted more."

Haas added: "George loves Dan and Dave, but after season five, he did start to worry about the path they were going because George knows where the story goes. He started saying, 'You're not following my template.'"

https://www.insider.com/george-rr-martin-begged-hbo-game-of-thrones-10-seasons-2021-11

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well at least that confirms the last few seasons aren't close to what the books will have

of course the books won't actually have anything because they don't exist, but

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D&D should have just let someone else take over, rather than try and cram in an ending. Literally everyone else wanted 10 seasons

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HBO could have milked this thing for as much as they wanted and we would've slurped it up. It was a money printer.

But those two fuckwits decided to screw it so hard that they got fired from the thing that had them rushing to finish.

Embarrassing.

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What a couple of morons.

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They should have handed the reigns over to someone else, instead they ran it into the ground in their haste to end it.

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He also wanted more time to finish the books before the show ended. For some reason he thought that was possible until like the last 2 seasons.

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It's pretty well-known that Dan and David are to blame. Obviously HBO would have loved to have more seasons of their biggest show. But Dan and David wanted to move on but didn't want to relinquish control to new showrunners.

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Fuck D & D. They seriously are horrible

One of the Ds helped screw GoT over worse than he screwed Deadpool over in Xmen Origins:Wolverine.

PrideOfLion posted...

Good to know he had issues with season five, always bothered me people acted like season eight was the only issue

It immediately started to dip in quality after they diverged from the books. But it wasn't an immediate nosedive. Just got worse and worse until the diarrhea that is season 7 and 8.

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there is no way this show had 10 seasons in it

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CADE FOSTER posted...

there is no way this show had 10 seasons in it

Season 8 alone needed at least one more season to develop out the story they were trying to tell in a meaningful way.

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they are such fucking idiots roflcopter
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FF_Redux posted...

Here's the more accurate version:



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Game of thrones was green lit in 2013. Season 5 was in 2015. Season 8 was in 2019.

The last time Martin actually bothered releasing a book in his series was in 2011. He has nobody to blame but himself if he's unhappy with the direction the show went in.

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I'm glad they didn't get hired for the thing they ruined GoT to try and rush towards to

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s0nicfan posted...

Game of thrones was green lit in 2013

You mean 2008? I don't know the exact date but that's what I remember.

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s0nicfan posted...

Game of thrones was green lit in 2013. Season 5 was in 2015. Season 8 was in 2019.

The last time Martin actually bothered releasing a book in his series was in 2011. He has nobody to blame but himself if he's unhappy with the direction the show went in.

I never watched the show, but holy shit they went through 5 seasons in 2 years? how the fuck did that happen

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Dan and David are hacks but GRRM should finish

DuranOfForcena posted...

don't know where you're getting that from, but season 1 of GoT aired in 2011

Which shows you just how rushed it was! Out before it was even given the OK!
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Must have been an article talking about follow-up seasons being greenlit. My point is, Martin has been sitting on his ass doing nothing for a decade so if he's really upset over the fact that the show didn't follow his vision maybe he could consider that any other author would have finished their series by the time things started to diverge in the first place.

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s0nicfan posted...

Must have been an article talking about follow-up seasons being greenlit. My point is, Martin has been sitting on his ass doing nothing for a decade so if he's really upset over the fact that the show didn't follow his vision maybe he could consider that any other author would have finished their series by the time things started to diverge in the first place.

He did say thinking back it was a mistake allowing it to happen before he had finished the books.

s0nicfan posted...

Game of thrones was green lit in 2013. Season 5 was in 2015. Season 8 was in 2019.

The last time Martin actually bothered releasing a book in his series was in 2011. He has nobody to blame but himself if he's unhappy with the direction the show went in.

Except the show just didn't adapt the vast majority of the last two books. They didn't bother sticking to the source material they had.

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Dude is living in one of his books because

s0nicfan posted...

Martin has been sitting on his ass doing nothing for a decade so if he's really upset over the fact that the show didn't follow his vision maybe he could consider that any other author would have finished their series by the time things started to diverge in the first place.

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Looking at the release dates, it is getting absurd we still don't have WOW yet.

Game of Thrones: August 1996
Clash of Kings: February 1999
Storm of Swords: November 2000
Feast for Crows: November 2005
Dance with Dragons: July 2011
Winds of Winter: ????
Dream of Spring: ????

It has been more than 10 years now since Dance, mother fucker better be releasing Winds and Dream of Spring in the same year, that's the only way you can justify this

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DuranOfForcena posted...

they diverged from the books beginning with the very first scene

The first 3-4 seasons were pretty faithful to the books. Around the end of season 4 there were some very serious and deliberate divergence choices in narrative

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s0nicfan posted...

Must have been an article talking about follow-up seasons being greenlit. My point is, Martin has been sitting on his ass doing nothing for a decade so if he's really upset over the fact that the show didn't follow his vision maybe he could consider that any other author would have finished their series by the time things started to diverge in the first place.

im not a fan of Martin after waiting almost ten years for WoW now but finishing his books has nothing to do with D&D not following the finished template.

I also wouldnt defend them considering they themselves made it clear they stopped giving a fuck after S4

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If he couldn't finish Winds during the pandemic where conventions and etc had been cancelled, it's never coming out.

By some miracle that it does, I believe it would be the last one he releases.

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I don't even want the last 2 books at this point, the series has been thoroughly ruined for me by the way the show ended, as well as GRRM's obvious desire to never write another chapter again in his life. He can say whatever he wants, but it's clear and obvious that he intended to finish the story with the show so he could stop writing. He's just mad they didn't listen to him and fans still have a reason to want him to write.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Looking at the release dates, it is getting absurd we still don't have WOW yet.

Game of Thrones: August 1996
Clash of Kings: February 1999
Storm of Swords: November 2000
Feast for Crows: November 2005
Dance with Dragons: July 2011
Winds of Winter: ????
Dream of Spring: ????

It has been more than 10 years now since Dance, mother fucker better be releasing Winds and Dream of Spring in the same year, that's the only way you can justify this

Let's face it, the last 2 books are never going to get done or released.

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3, 4, 5, 6 years betweens books and then over 10 years for book 6. At this point a best case scenario would be, what, 12 years? It's never happening lol. Even if it does, book 7 is DEFINITELY not happening. what would that one be, 20 years in the making?

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You know why he wanted ten seasons cuz free fucking money

The show deviated from the books in ways that made the story worse even before getting into covering stuff that George hadn't written yet.

I realised recently that the reason the terrible ending didn't bother me was that I had already checked out on the show when they cut tyrion's wife out. The scene with Tywin's death lost nearly all impact because the motivation was completely different.

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the show ended 2 years ago. did Santa finish the books yet?

People have also begged Martin to finish the fucking books but clearly that means nothing to him.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

People have also begged Martin to finish the fucking books but clearly that means nothing to him.

Elden Ring looks good though.

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lol if you actually think more books are coming. He's fucking done and once he dies someone else will finish the series.

That's sad, I wish HBO could've just let them leave and have someone else take over

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Kinda odd that HBO didn't let them leave and continue the show anyways. Other networks do it especially with shows that could go that long.

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If D&D were ok with new show runners taking over, I am sure HBO would have allowed them to do that. They were begging for more seasons. D&D just didnt want anyone else to finish their series.

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Show was crap the second they outpaced the books.

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