Current Events > It's annoying how Pokemon uses 'evolution' when they mean 'metamorphosis'

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HylianFox
11/10/21 12:37:31 AM
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A caterpillar does not "evolve" into a butterfly anymore than a baby "evolves" into an adult...

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Wii_Shaker
11/10/21 12:38:52 AM
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You are correct.

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viewmaster_pi
11/10/21 12:40:05 AM
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evolve is much quicker, and an easier word for kids, plus, nothing metamorphosizes in 27 seconds like in pokemon

i don't even know if i used the word right, lol, so my point is made

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Pepys Monster
11/10/21 12:40:35 AM
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Yes, but the game and show were aimed at children, and "evolved" is a simpler, two-syllable word.

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averagejoel
11/10/21 12:53:28 AM
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now I'm wondering if any creationist talking points stem from pokemon's misrepresentation of what evolution is

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jpenny2
11/10/21 12:59:10 AM
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Mighty Morphin Pocket Monsters

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Proto_Spark
11/10/21 1:00:57 AM
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averagejoel posted...
now I'm wondering if any creationist talking points stem from pokemon's misrepresentation of what evolution is

Those creationist talking points long precede Pokemon, so I think its more like Pokemon adopted the misinterpretation of what "evolution" actually is.
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Notti
11/10/21 1:03:28 AM
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averagejoel posted...
now I'm wondering if any creationist talking points stem from pokemon's misrepresentation of what evolution is


And the X-Men.
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Nukazie
11/10/21 1:05:28 AM
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evolve sounds simpler and you cant fit metamorphosis in gb text without some slight confusion


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MC_BatCommander
11/10/21 1:10:32 AM
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I think they just picked a word that's easier for kids to read

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Notti
11/12/21 6:28:06 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
Isn't metamorphosis when you break down then re-form differently? Is that what happens?


Metamorphosis is a biological process by which an animal physically develops after birth or hatching, involving a conspicuous and relatively abrupt change in the animal's body structure through cell growth and differentiation.

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3PiesAndAFork
11/12/21 6:35:46 AM
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Imagine back in the day. "My Charmander is metamorphosising into Charmeleon!"

Teacher: "that's a big word. Let's use Pokemon as a learning tool!"

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gunplagirl
11/12/21 6:50:10 AM
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Transform is still a longer word than evolve

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Kloe_Rinz
11/12/21 6:51:37 AM
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My eevee is morphing!

no that sounds dumb
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Wii_Shaker
11/12/21 6:56:52 AM
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I think what Digimon do is closer to evolving as they completely change forms entirely.

The fact that Pokemon also have fossil poke'mon as part of it's universe that theoretically would have their own evolutionary lines begs more question than the source material can handle.

Though the more you try to rationalize Pokemon, the less it's universe makes actual sense.

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pegusus123456
11/12/21 6:59:37 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...


The fact that Pokemon also have fossil poke'mon as part of it's universe that theoretically would have their own evolutionary lines begs more question than the source material can handle.
Nah, fossile Pokemon are just ones that went extinct.

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BlakPeppa
11/12/21 7:02:40 AM
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You picked the one example of all the Pokmon that bases its evolution stages on the metamorphosis of a caterpillar. There are hundreds more that dont fit the definition.

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Xavier_On_High
11/12/21 7:04:10 AM
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A baby does evolve into an adult, just not in the Darwinian sense. To evolve is just to change over time, so calling it evolution is still technically correct.

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BlakPeppa
11/12/21 7:42:53 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
A baby does evolve into an adult, just not in the Darwinian sense. To evolve is just to change over time, so calling it evolution is still technically correct.

Evolution is a perfect catch-all term really.

Wii_Shaker posted...
I think what Digimon do is closer to evolving as they completely change forms entirely.

Disregarding them completely changing forms is just rewriting data, how is "digivolution" not closer to metamorphosis, visually? Digivolving has been shown throughout multiple media as encapsulating themselves in a digital egg, then bursting out as new monster. Seems like Caterpillar > Cocoon > Butterfly to me.

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Wii_Shaker
11/12/21 8:01:08 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I think they just picked a word that's easier for kids to read
This is closest to the truth here. Keep in mind that the entire game had to be translated for Western audiences multiple times along with the concepts and game mechanics.

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WingsOfGood
11/12/21 8:03:55 AM
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Evolve just means change.

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Notti
11/12/21 8:05:44 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...

This is closest to the truth here. Keep in mind that the entire game had to be translated for Western audiences multiple times along with the concepts and game mechanics.


What's the Japanese term?
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jpenny2
11/12/21 8:05:45 AM
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Evolution is a mystery.

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BlakPeppa
11/12/21 8:06:35 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
This is closest to the truth here. Keep in mind that the entire game had to be translated for Western audiences multiple times along with the concepts and game mechanics.

eh, the japanese text translates to evolution as well.

Notti posted...
What's the Japanese term?
Shinka means evolution.


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WingsOfGood
11/12/21 8:07:55 AM
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Also using stones to make an eevee evolve is an intelligent being guiding the change with their will to an outcome that they desire over this great universe.
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Solar_Crimson
11/12/21 11:05:54 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
the more you try to rationalize Pokemon, the less it's universe makes actual sense.


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EndOfDiscOne
11/12/21 11:09:33 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
My eevee is morphing!

no that sounds dumb
It's confusing because it implies that they can morph back, as long as they don't break the 2 hour time limit

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Questionmarktarius
11/12/21 11:09:49 AM
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These were gameboy games without a lot of screen space or cart space.
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Returning_CEmen
11/12/21 11:10:20 AM
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Digimetamorphosis

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Tyranthraxus
11/12/21 11:10:25 AM
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Pokemon universe has canonical creationism so evolve can mean whatever the fuck they want it to mean in that universe.

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