Current Events > So my friend got assaulted by another mutual friend. The cops were called

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They were both drunk and with a group of other friends (both male and female).
One guy jokingly said, "hey Amanda, I'm tired of your shit, stop rating me. I give you a 7/10 if you're doing that!"
The other guy out of nowhere starts choking that guy out and starts hitting him. His rationalization is that the guy was being rude. That's still no excuse to assault someone.

The cops were called and the guy who assaulted my friend never got arrested. The guy was given a piece of paper saying that "somebody" was going to call him. The cops left like nothing happened but the psychological damage it did to my friend still remains. He has a concussion, and his eyes are blood shot red. His throat was choked out so hard, that he can barely speak properly.

Is this a common thing? I always thought when incidents like these occur, someone always gets arrested on the spot. Please help me get justice for my friend.

If you're friend was drunk, the cops won't talk to him. They decided better to contact him the next day when he's sober to get an accurate statement and if he'd want to press charges.

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You say "mutual friend" but your OP is worded like he's a total stranger to you

My initial thought was, if he's a mutual friend, you should confront him about it
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Well what's the evidence that was presented to the police?

ShineboxPhil posted...

If you're friend was drunk, the cops won't talk to him. They decided better to contact him the next day when he's sober to get an accurate statement and if he'd want to press charges.

Good point.

Having a lawyer or advocate assist would help. I had an acquaintance who was threatened (repeatedly) whom the police ignored, repeatedly, until he went to court to seek a court order for the police to take a report. But that required him having a lawyer friend.

Presenting evidence of injury might help. One time I was attacked in an attempted robbery and the police who arrived refused to take a report. I took the next day off to get a doctor's note, then went to the precinct. Turns out I didn't need the doctor's note because the detective recognized me when I met him doing my job. The detective at least took a report.

[Edit:] Oh, this part's important. The detective was able to identify the 911 call. That can happen if your friend goes to the precinct as well.

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Depends entirely on the agency. Some have policies about arresting the primary aggressor. Some just tell the people to separate and hope it sorts itself out.
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metallica846 posted...

Doing alcohol is cool.

but violence is never cool

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One_Day_Remains posted...

You say "mutual friend" but your OP is worded like he's a total stranger to you

My initial thought was, if he's a mutual friend, you should confront him about it

I would consider the guy as a lesser friend. Actually I want nothing to do with that guy. Nobody wants to drink or talk to a guy that thinks physical violence can be rationalized in anyway.

atmasabr posted...

Well what's the evidence that was presented to the police?

Good point.

Having a lawyer or advocate assist would help. I had an acquaintance who was threatened (repeatedly) whom the police ignored, repeatedly, until he went to court to seek a court order for the police to take a report. But that required him having a lawyer friend.

Presenting evidence of injury might help. One time I was attacked in an attempted robbery and the police who arrived refused to take a report. I took the next day off to get a doctor's note, then went to the precinct. Turns out I didn't need the doctor's note because the detective recognized me when I met him doing my job. The detective at least took a report.

[Edit:] Oh, this part's important. The detective was able to identify the 911 call. That can happen if your friend goes to the precinct as well.

My friend can't afford an attorney. Does he have to go into the precinct? He's still recovering from his injuries and has trouble moving. Could I call the police on his behalf? I feel so sorry for the guy, he didn't deserve that. I appreciate your help btw.
ShineboxPhil posted...

If you're friend was drunk, the cops won't talk to him. They decided better to contact him the next day when he's sober to get an accurate statement and if he'd want to press charges.

How long does it normally take? He has not received any phone call.

Was the aggressor White?

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dj1200 posted...

Was the aggressor White?

YES.

dj1200 posted...

Was the aggressor White?

insomniacRA posted...

YES.

Was the aggreded non-white?

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Laserion posted...

Was the aggreded non-white?

YES. I see where you're going with this.

At my job I had to call the cops for fights many times. Most of the time nobody got arrested.

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ExtremeLuchador posted...

At my job I had to call the cops for fights many times. Most of the time nobody got arrested.

Sigh. My friend is saying he's to get a Cartel member (he does have connections) to take care of "him." I'm rather concerned for him as I can see malice in his eyes when it comes to getting revenge.

I really don't want to be involved in the crossfires, but I want to see vengeance for my friend without having the other guy "physically harmed."

insomniacRA posted...

My friend can't afford an attorney. Does he have to go into the precinct? He's still recovering from his injuries and has trouble moving. Could I call the police on his behalf? I feel so sorry for the guy, he didn't deserve that. I appreciate your help btw.

A police department is a government office. So I suppose there's a lot of information you could find out by calling the precinct.

So, first things first, are they conducting an investigation? In other words, is there a detective assigned to the case? Is the crime victim able to speak to the detective to explain they wish to give a statement or interview. That's basic information one could probably find out over the phone if you figure out the right person to speak to and how to reach them, unless they cite privacy and verification concerns. Did anyone take down your friend's name and obvious contact information?

But I don't trust government offices over the phone. That's the main reason I suggested going in person.

If there's a detective assigned to the case, then it's a matter of dealing with the detective and their workload. But, the detective will want to conduct an interview. And the detective will want to review any records and other evidence that's available. That's unless they've already closed their case, which could be a problem.

I suppose it's unlikely no detective was assigned to the case based on what you said.

Look, I don't trust the government (even though I work for it). I tend to believe you have to try multiple times to get a result you need. But there are people who have the ability to get that result the very first time.

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Sigh. My friend is saying he's to get a Cartel member (he does have connections) to take care of "him." I'm rather concerned for him as I can see malice in his eyes when it comes to getting revenge.

I really don't want to be involved in the crossfires, but I want to see vengeance for my friend without having the other guy "physically harmed."

I think you should take some time to learn how to reach the anonymous tip line just in case you do end up in such a crossfire. Maybe there's a crime victim's hotline in your area your friend can reach out to?


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Your friend has connections to the Cartel? Yeah I don't know if I'd want to be around someone like that
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atmasabr posted...

A police department is a government office. So I suppose there's a lot of information you could find out by calling the precinct.

So, first things first, are they conducting an investigation? In other words, is there a detective assigned to the case? Is the crime victim able to speak to the detective to explain they wish to give a statement or interview. That's basic information one could probably find out over the phone if you figure out the right person to speak to and how to reach them, unless they cite privacy and verification concerns. Did anyone take down your friend's name and obvious contact information?

But I don't trust government offices over the phone. That's the main reason I suggested going in person.

If there's a detective assigned to the case, then it's a matter of dealing with the detective and their workload. But, the detective will want to conduct an interview. And the detective will want to review any records and other evidence that's available. That's unless they've already closed their case, which could be a problem.

I suppose it's unlikely no detective was assigned to the case based on what you said.

Look, I don't trust the government (even though I work for it). I tend to believe you have to try multiple times to get a result you need. But there are people who have the ability to get that result the very first time.

Thank you, that was very helpful my man. The world needs more good people like you. I'll get the guy an uber and convince him to get to the precinct. I just want to see justice not only for him but for the world. Seeing the other guy arrested, gives me hope that the world hasn't become dystopic yet. If nothing happens to the other guy, and he gets away scot-free, then I have lost all hope for the US.

I don't think he's going to the Cartel. He's just saying that because he's currently emotionally compromised.

7/10 is a decent score. I don't understand why they got so upset.

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