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Thats cuz adhd is a bullshit diagnosis most of the time.

its speed. Yall are taking speed. Its an amphetamine, its a cousin to methamphetamine. Yeah it makes you feel better, because youre on an upper lol

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I think I have mild ADHD. I was diagnosed as a kid, but have been unmedicated since I was maybe 12 or 13.

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Seriously, quit while youre ahead. That stuff will crack you out and it only gets worse. The drug literally has a street value and Ive known people who had to go to rehab for it.

People in this topic are praising it because it makes them feel good. Its chemically identical to either meth or ecstasy (cant remember which).

Edit: Its meth. Most meth heads use adderall when they cant score and many meth heads are former adderall users.

https://www.labroots.com/trending/drug-discovery-and-development/15690/adderall-identical-crystal-meth

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Feel like I need Adderall. I get distracted so easily. Im thinking about ten different things at any given time.

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MrDrMan posted...

Feel like I need Adderall. I get distracted so easily. Im thinking about ten different things at any given time.

Thats called creativity. Its called not being a boring fuck

Adderall is for clerical work so you dont realize the drudgery.

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ShyOx posted...

Thats cuz adhd is a bullshit diagnosis most of the time.

its speed. Yall are taking speed. Its an amphetamine, its a cousin to methamphetamine. Yeah it makes you feel better, because youre on an upper lol

This sounds like a PSA that got really popular for some reason
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Noumena posted...

This sounds like a PSA that got really popular for some reason

He/she is right, though.

https://www.labroots.com/trending/drug-discovery-and-development/15690/adderall-identical-crystal-meth

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Woozul posted...

Also really fun how people without ADHD love telling us we shouldn't take medication that actually helps us function.

Pro tip: if you do not have ADHD and take stimulants, you will feel "cracked out" so to speak - it does. not. affect. people. without. adhd. the. same.

I really don't give two shits what drugs people do recreationally, for the most part. But don't project that on people whose lives have profoundly been improved by ADHD medication.

Bullshit buddy, I got diagnosed with ADHD as well, its a fuckin scam. Its still cracking you out and what youre saying has absolutely no basis is science or fact. Your brain is not different.

Thats like saying if you did cocaine it wouldnt have any effect on you. Utter nonsense. Its an amphetamine. They are not good for you.

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Woozul posted...

It's fine if you don't understand how brain chemistry is different in people with/without ADHD, but please don't shit up a topic and add to the stigma of getting treatment for ADHD with misinformation.

Pretty sure society has near to no stigma about adderal and adhd, which is the problem lol. ADHD is the most over diagnosed and over prescribed condition on the planet; the guy who first diagnosed it called it a fictitious disease later in life because of how over diagnosed it is.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.additudemag.com/is-adhd-a-disease/amp/

Not about to let some topic promoting the use of adderal in a yaaaaay way go without informing people: its speed. Its always been speed and giving it to kids is disgusting. I just told you I was diagnosed with it, took those pills for a week and realized it was all bullshit. Its speed.

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I'm convinced Adderall could help me with my procrastination and general scatter brained behavior but I can't get a script for it.

Wish I could find a nice, easy going dealer.

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Woozul posted...

Oh so YOU took pills for a week and decided that because it's bullshit for you, that it applies to everyone with ADHD?

And yes, in some cases, children are prescribed stimulants when they shouldn't be. Most psych providers I've seen try meds like intuniv or strattera and don't load up 5 year olds with meth.

No I took them for a week, knew something was wrong, did my research, and discovered its speed. Its almost the exact same drug as methamphetamine.

It is not a long term solution to a problem.

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Woozul posted...

Again, you're making extreme, vast generalizations for people with ADHD because you discovered how to use Google to look up the chemical composition of a medication.

As another example, i took Lexapro for like ... 2 days and felt like I was out of my body and felt godawful ... words don't even begin to describe it. Does it mean that we should go on a crusade to ban Lexapro?

Lexapro isnt speed. This isnt a new opinion. Its speed. How is taking it better than street legal speed simply because its prescribed? We over subscribe pain meds and antibiotics and are reaping the benefits of that as well.

Some minute tiny sliver of the population benefit from speed; narcoleptics for example. Most people should not be taking speed as a prescription; look no further than the first replies in this topic. You literally went yay!!! upon hearing the news with none of the details lol. Thats insanity.

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Wish I had some adderall right now.

Woozul posted...

Right now you seriously don't sound different than the people who post lists of inactive ingredients in vaccines as a "point" against vaccination.

That isn't a good thing. At all.

And people itt have shared how abuse has negatively impacted them without flat out lying about ADHD.

I havent lied about anything or said anything that isnt true; hence why you cant even deal with the one truth that adderal is fuckin speed. Speed is speed. Taking that for years at a time is asking for serious health issues, and thats what our society considers normal. Its batshit insanity.


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Payzmaykr posted...

Seriously, quit while youre ahead. That stuff will crack you out and it only gets worse. The drug literally has a street value and Ive known people who had to go to rehab for it.

People in this topic are praising it because it makes them feel good. Its chemically identical to either meth or ecstasy (cant remember which).

Edit: Its meth. Most meth heads use adderall when they cant score and many meth heads are former adderall users.

https://www.labroots.com/trending/drug-discovery-and-development/15690/adderall-identical-crystal-meth

This is a very dangerous thing to say and outright misinformation. Meds can help people function normally and help keep their jobs by performing adequately when they couldn't otherwise.

I never intended to be on meds for the rest of my life. I hate the idea of relying on it, and it hurts especially when I had to see a family member die of cancer and have to take a dozen different meds every day after their diagnosis.

There's clearly a difference in posts here where people are genuinely curious and think it will help them vs people who just want to experiment and do it recreationally. I made it clear that I don't condone recreational usage here.

What people need to do is see a psychiatrist if they genuinely have add like symptoms to the point where it's affecting relationships and their everyday +professional lives.

Also, I plan to take half the recommended dosage (5mg) to see how it affects me.

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godogod posted...

This is a very dangerous thing to say and outright misinformation. Meds can help people function normally and help keep their jobs by performing adequately when they couldn't otherwise.

There's varying degrees of ADD as well. Mild, moderate and severe. Mine is diagnosed as mild, but I know for a fact my condition has affected my work performance over the years as well as school in the last. I don't have good focus, scatter brained, get easily distracted and it's to the point where it's affected my working memory/executive function and tme longer to pick up things. And work is not gonna have the patience for you unless they know your condition. Also ADD can be passed down genetically. I have it from one parents side and my siblings and my parent and their siblings have varying degrees.

I never intended to be on meds for the rest of my life. I hate the idea of relying on it, and it hurts especially when I had to see a family member die of cancer and have to take a dozen different meds every day after their diagnosis.

All in all, there's clearly a difference in posts here where people are genuinely curious and think it will help them vs people who just want to experiment and do it recreationally. I made it clear that I don't condone recreational usage here.

What people need to do is see a psychiatrist if they genuinely have add like symptoms to the point where it's affecting relationships and their everyday +professional lives.

You know who doesnt have that? People who are dead inside and dont think. What youre doing is normal, its called thinking. Were not supposed to be drones who can do boring things for hours on end.

Today, the fifth edition of the DSM only requires one to exhibit five of 18 possible symptoms to qualify for an ADHD diagnosis. If you havent seen the list, look it up. It will probably bother you. How many of us can claim that we have difficulty with organization or a tendency to lose things; that we are frequently forgetful or distracted or fail to pay close attention to details? Under these subjective criteria, the entire U.S. population could potentially qualify.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/25370/doctor-adhd-does-not-exist/%3famp=true

Most of the population qualifies on this sort of criteria, cause guess what? Speed helps eeeeeverybody to knuckle down, the same way steroids make eeeeeverybody play sports better. Does that make it a good idea?

It is not a long term solution. Its a highly addictive drug that will cause a shit ton of damage over time. I dont know anyone who takes adderal regularly who I would give a clean bill of health to. They turn into fuckin drones, its sad and depressing. They ignore problems in their lives because theyre too zonked out on speed.


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The come down off addies is terrible.

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ShyOx posted...

You know who doesnt have that? People who are dead inside and dont think. What youre doing is normal, its called thinking. Were not supposed to be drones who can do boring things for hours on end.

Today, the fifth edition of the DSM only requires one to exhibit five of 18 possible symptoms to qualify for an ADHD diagnosis. If you havent seen the list, look it up. It will probably bother you. How many of us can claim that we have difficulty with organization or a tendency to lose things; that we are frequently forgetful or distracted or fail to pay close attention to details? Under these subjective criteria, the entire U.S. population could potentially qualify.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/25370/doctor-adhd-does-not-exist/%3famp=true

Most of the population qualifies on this sort of criteria, cause guess what? Speed helps eeeeeverybody to knuckle down, the same way steroids make eeeeeverybody play sports better. Does that make it a good idea?

It is not a long term solution. Its a highly addictive drug that will cause a shit ton of damage over time. I dont know anyone who takes adderal regularly who I would give a clean bill of health to. They turn into fuckin drones, its sad and depressing. They ignore problems in their lives because theyre too zonked out on speed.

You're crazy. ADD isn't a hoax disease dude, it's legitimate. People that have ADD dont have the same brains as a normal brain. Some areas are underdeveloped. You also don't know anything about me. I've had inattention problems as long as I could remember since grade school and I have a family history of it. There's an 85% chance a parent can pass it on to their kids. it's impacted my personal life, my academics and my professional life.

if it was a hoax disease, there literally wouldn't be thousands of scientific articles and peer reviews on this saying otherwise. Everyone is different and you can't lump everyone and say they are the same either. People have varying degrees of ADD (as well as any mental illness).

last thing I want to do is rely on meds dude. this is the very last straw for me, as it is affecting my personal and professional life.
I dont need to prove anything to you. Let the people who genuinely have suffered and suspect they may have it, go to a psychiatrist and go from there. It's up to people and their loved ones to manage their health.

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FightingJester posted...

The come down off addies is terrible.

Besides differing individually, I think this is going to be heavily dependent on dosage.

I didn't have this issue today personally. Coffee on the other hand I sometimes do get that,. jt that's usually if I don't take my time drinking a cup and just rush, as well as spiking my blood sugar with food in a short time frame.

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tc just block the troll so he doesnt keep shitting up the thread

as for me i used to be on adderall a little over ten years ago, when i was a teen. i have mixed feelings about it cause while it worked great for actually letting me focus on homework and things i wasnt able to do before, i also had extremely bad reactions to basically all the side effects and ended up not taking it anymore. but as an adult i think id probably handle it better now and would like to try going back on it

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ShyOx posted...

Thats called creativity. Its called not being a boring fuck

Adderall is for clerical work so you dont realize the drudgery.

Call it whatever you want but it makes it hard to get things done sometimes. The few times Ive taken Adderall I get way more stuff done.

I feel like Bradley Cooper in Limitless after an Adderall.

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I took adderall from my dr too and it made me psychotic. I'm still on the hunt for what will make my brain click, but as I get older I just feel like it's a me problem and coping is impossible.

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CommunismFTW posted...

I took adderall from my dr too and it made me psychotic. I'm still on the hunt for what will make my brain click, but as I get older I just feel like it's a me problem and coping is impossible.

Adderall is almost never the answer. Probably less than 5% of the people who are prescribed it actually need it, and the other 95% will viciously claim that they do because it makes them feel good. I already posted evidence that its prescription crystal meth.

You take it and get spun out and after a year or so, youre literally not the same person. Ive lost multiple friends to this garbage (theyre not dead, but they changed so badly that theyre not the person I knew).

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Payzmaykr posted...

Adderall is almost never the answer. Probably less than 5% of the people who are prescribed it actually need it, and the other 95% will viciously claim that they do because it makes them feel good. I already posted evidence that its prescription crystal meth.

You take it and get spun out and after a year or so, youre literally not the same person. Ive lost multiple friends to this garbage (theyre not dead, but they changed so badly that theyre not the person I knew).

I'm a very low energy person, but taking that shit was an absolute nightmare to me. I felt like I had just drank six energy drinks, taken an espresso shot, then tried to take a nap. I was fucked up, couldn't concentrate, couldn't focus. I felt like I was just drinking all night and found an eight ball.

If that's normal for people, holy jesus man.

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FightingJester posted...

The come down off addies is terrible.

Yes, this is what caused me to forever stop taking it.

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Ok I'm curious, what was your guy's dosage?

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So fucking sick of people saying ADHD isn't bad and you can cope without meds. Yea right, when society makes you spend like 20 something years of your life sitting in a class room studying books and writing papers, all of which greatly affect your life and employment opportunities, people that have ADHD are getting fucked.

If you got diagnosed with ADHD, and you did just fine without meds and coping with those herbal teas and natural oils, then sorry but you never had ADHD to begin with. Yea, getting the proper dosage and prescription is hard, who fucking cares.

Too many brilliant kids are viewed as dumbasses and rowdy fucks that end up dropping out of school and have their life adversely affected by working 4-5 mcdonald's/burger king jobs their entire life BC they never got the medicine or support they needed to finish getting a diploma or degree to get the job of their dreams. Are there people out there that do just fine graduating and going to college and finding damn good blue collar jobs with ADHD? SURE, YES, ABSOLUTELY.... But their success and luck does not mean shit for us riddled with chemical imbalances.

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bladegash posted...

So fucking sick of people saying ADHD isn't bad and you can cope without meds. Yea right, when society makes you spend like 20 something years of your life sitting in a class room studying books and writing papers, all of which greatly affect your life and employment opportunities, people that have ADHD are getting fucked.

If you got diagnosed with ADHD, and you did just fine without meds and coping with those herbal teas and natural oils, then sorry but you never had ADHD to begin with. Yea, getting the proper dosage and prescription is hard, who fucking cares.

Too many brilliant kids are viewed as dumbasses and rowdy fucks that end up dropping out of school and have their life adversely affected by working 4-5 mcdonald's/burger king jobs their entire life BC they never got the medicine or support they needed to finish getting a diploma or degree to get the job of their dreams. Are there people out there that do just fine graduating and going to college and finding damn good blue collar jobs with ADHD? SURE, YES, ABSOLUTELY.... But their success and luck does not mean shit for us riddled with chemical imbalances.

Yeah you can fuck off with this ignorance.

Bern diagnosed with ADHD most of my life and never been on meds and used coping mechanisms all my life and yeah its been fucking hard at times and School was a nightmare but Ive always come out of things stronger. Of course for some people medication is needed as different people need different things to be able to cope/deal its a person by person basis.

The other thing to remember is that here in the UK things like Ritalin and Adderall are class B drugs and Doctors will only prescribe them if they have to as we dont have a health system trying to make a quick buck out of us.

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spikethedevil posted...

Yeah you can fuck off with this ignorance.

Bern diagnosed with ADHD most of my life and never been on meds and used coping mechanisms all my life and yeah its been fucking hard at times and School was a nightmare but Ive always come out of things stronger.

You really didn't read shit I wrote and idgaf.

Of course for some people medication is needed as different people need different things to be able to cope/deal its a person by person basis.

Oh now you want to agree with me.

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I did read what you wrote and no I didnt agree with you as I clearly stated some people need meds not all. You stating those who dont take meds dont have it is ignorant as fuck as well as discriminatory.

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spikethedevil posted...

I did read what you wrote and no I didnt agree with you as I clearly stated some people need meds not all. You stating those who dont take meds dont have it is ignorant as fuck as well as discriminatory.

Obviously you didn't bc I never said that, what I said was:

"If you got diagnosed with ADHD, and you did just fine without meds and coping with those herbal teas and natural oils, then sorry but you never had ADHD to begin with."

As a direct response to people saying you don't ever need to take meds.

So please, fuck off

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As I said many people do in fact do fine without meds.

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I've seen people who dropped out of high school because they could not deal with the anxiety of day to day activities graduate from college as a result of using Adderall. It is a medication that - like the vast majority of medications - can be dangerous if used incorrectly, but it is absolutely and undoubtably effective at helping people with ADHD live productive lives.

Seems like one of those things that most experts agree is legit, and anyone not an expert and saying otherwise should shut the fuck up

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

I think that if you're going to oppose something that helps people perform at a basic level in society, you should provide an alternative solution. Most, if not all, methods for neurotypical people do not help people with adhd.

Like, you can't tell someone to buckle down and spend 5 hours reading a textbook if they struggle to do so for just 5 minutes, especially if they have no interest in the subject.

One of my favorites is just get a planner. Lol I am completely incapable of sticking to those for more than one day.

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spikethedevil posted...

As I said many people do in fact do fine without meds.

Great!

I was saying that there are people that DO need meds. Not shitting on the people that are fortunate enough to not need it. And those of us that do need it, shouldnt have to be compared to those with mild and moderate cases, or those that can go without.

We dont take the meds bc we are crack addicts, as another poster insinuated. that part where i said "you never really had adhd to begin with" was to specific people arguing that nobody needs ADHD medicine, not a blanket statement.

Bc anybody with ADHD knows you cant just suck it up and get better.

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bladegash posted...

Great!

I was saying that there are people that DO need meds. Not shitting on the people that are fortunate enough to not need it. And those of us that do need it, shouldnt have to be compared to those with mild and moderate cases, or those that can go without.

We dont take the meds bc we are crack addicts, as another poster insinuated. that part where i said "you never really had adhd to begin with" was to specific people arguing that nobody needs ADHD medicine, not a blanket statement.

Bc anybody with ADHD knows you cant just suck it up and get better.

Tell me about it. Its something we always have to live with.

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Saying that people with a diagnosed psychiatric disorder are wrong for taking their medicine because it is potentially abusable is dumb.

It's like saying that someone is "wrong" for taking benzodiazepines for severe anxiety or panic attacks, because dumb rappers get high on Xanax.

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spikethedevil posted...

Tell me about it. Its something we always have to live with.

I did word my rant poorly. So, apologies for the aggressive responses, its just a sensative subject.


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