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Mr_Karate_II
09/15/21 5:47:48 PM
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The company seems like a completely different company now compared to when we got Vice City and San Andreas.

V is ok but doesn't feel like it's better than Vice City or San Andreas. Obviously the graphics are better in V but the gameplay and things to do aren't better than the other two. I miss the vigilante,fire fighter and paramedic missions. Those were fun and gave bonuses in both games.

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Mr_Karate_II
09/15/21 5:48:29 PM
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Maybe it was the soundtracks too that made the games better.

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pinky0926
09/15/21 5:49:55 PM
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You mean the company that has put out hit after hit after hit after hit after hit, with basically no bad games?


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I4NRulez
09/15/21 5:50:27 PM
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Go wrong how?

GTA V was good and keeps a good online system running in terms of gameplay to its playerbase. (scummy sharkcards aside) and RDR 2 was a masterpiece of a game.

I wouldn't say they've gone wrong anywhere.

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eston
09/15/21 5:51:33 PM
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As of now their main creative person isn't there anymore, but GTA IV, GTA V, and RDR2 are all games that I enjoyed immensely

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monkmith
09/15/21 5:52:09 PM
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shark cards.

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pinky0926
09/15/21 5:52:16 PM
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Also can I say it's really weird to live in Edinburgh and meet and/or date people who work for Rockstar basically every week and it to be just a normal part of life here


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pegusus123456
09/15/21 5:53:24 PM
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I think their flaw was when they tried to focus on the story.

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Mr_Karate_II
09/15/21 5:53:42 PM
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They didn't seem money hungry back then and didn't need to re-release the same game across 3 different console generations.

The story mode/offline doesn't feel like it has as much replayability as what VC or SA had.

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modena
09/15/21 5:54:23 PM
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monkmith posted...
shark cards.
This, if I had to choose anything.

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Mr_Karate_II
09/15/21 5:55:38 PM
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GTA online is fun but the constant push for you to purchase shark cards is ridiculous and off putting.

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Slayerblade11
09/15/21 5:56:38 PM
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GTA V was a big step up from GTA IV but unfortunately they realized that they could milk GTA 5 for profit with online and lazy rereleases and so why bother making another good game? They don't even have any real competition to force them to step up there game.
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TheGoldenEel
09/15/21 5:56:55 PM
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Theyre owned by take two, the most predatory monetization game company out there

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eston
09/15/21 5:57:29 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I think their flaw was when they tried to focus on the story.
I feel pretty much the exact opposite, the writing is one of the things that elevates their games over other similar ones

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/21 5:58:43 PM
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I'd say the problem is the overall game formula has gotten a little stale and the gimmicks they try to introduce aren't helping.

Look at the difference between AC2 and AC Odyssey. Had Ubisoft kept making games basically similar to the Ezio trilogy then AC would be in the same place as GTA right now.

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pegusus123456
09/15/21 5:59:51 PM
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eston posted...
I feel pretty much the exact opposite, the writing is one of the things that elevates their games over other similar ones
I just didn't like GTAIV's story and V's wasn't enough to keep me interested. Their story forces the game to be more grounded which is the real flaw.

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Nacen
09/15/21 6:00:37 PM
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Never been much of a rockstar fan personally. I've enjoyed GTA, but mostly just as games that I can mess around in for a few hours.

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Mr_Karate_II
09/15/21 6:01:50 PM
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The latest update is ok but there is so many problems with, it's very rare that they fix any bugs that result from the update in a timely manner.

They've known about problems with the last update but still haven't fixed the issues, it's always the same response "we're aware of the ongoing issues and are working to fix them".

This company doesn't like to take responsibility for the ongoing issues with their game.

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nativengine
09/15/21 6:02:48 PM
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Can you really blame Rockstar because people keep buying the same game over and over and continue to buy in game currency for about 8 years now? GTA5 is behind Tetris and Minecraft as the top selling games of all time, very impressive. Im willing to bet GTA5 has made more than GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas combined, Im not even gonna bother to look it up.

This isnt the fault of Rockstar, its the fault of gamers, I myself have paid for GTA5 4 times now but not a dime on Shark Cards.

Im enjoying how pissed people are at them currently for their bullshit PlayStation announcement of GTA5 on the PS5.

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Patchwork
09/15/21 6:04:05 PM
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RDR2 is probably one of the most incredible games Ive ever played.

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eston
09/15/21 6:04:30 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I just didn't like GTAIV's story and V's wasn't enough to keep me interested. Their story forces the game to be more grounded which is the real flaw.
I like the old games and the new games, but personally I prefer a more grounded GTA. It's one of the reasons I loved IV when it came out, plus its incredibly good supporting cast which is something V fell short on

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Darmik
09/15/21 6:05:12 PM
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I don't think they've gone wrong really.

But their games are less gamey than they used to be. They want the world's to feel immersive and the stories to be taken seriously. So that's probably your big issue.

I just wish the missions allowed more player freedom.

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nativengine
09/15/21 6:13:01 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
GTA online is fun but the constant push for you to purchase shark cards is ridiculous and off putting.
That was a thing back on the 360/PS3 and yes it was annoying to not be able to afford something and a text pop up and let you know hey, you could buy a Shark Card

Not really a thing now but I almost always have at least 200k. The Cayo Perico heist was a game changer, literally. You could make 2 million in an hour and a half or less solo. Even now its easy to make 1.5 solo in an hour.

Play the game, dont buy thing you dont need. Invest, simple

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brotrrwinner
09/15/21 6:16:48 PM
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Rockstar, Blizzard, Valve, Ubisoft... all victims of their own success

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Collat
09/15/21 6:18:38 PM
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They realized they don't have to make a new game as long as whales keep throwing money at them.
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Lordgold666
09/15/21 6:31:04 PM
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The 14+ mill made from gtao mtx in 2014

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kawalimus
09/15/21 6:32:28 PM
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It's just a tired franchise. IV was a step back and V isn't exciting. GTA III series it was all fresh and nothing like it had ever been done. Now it's all old hat.
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KCJ5062
09/15/21 6:34:01 PM
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Patchwork posted...
RDR2 is probably one of the most incredible games Ive ever played.

I think it's a shame that's the only Rockstar game we've gotten since GTA5 originally came out.

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Darmik
09/15/21 6:41:13 PM
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KCJ5062 posted...
I think it's a shame that's the only Rockstar game we've gotten since GTA5 originally came out.

Games on this scale take at least 5 years to make now unless they work on a production like like Ubisoft.

No real way to avoid it anymore. They took that long to make RDR2 even with a large amount of crunch.

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Punished_Joseph
09/15/21 6:43:19 PM
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Remaking the same game for a decade
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Halo478
09/15/21 6:50:20 PM
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GTA online is where they went wrong it prints them billions yearly sure but everything else suffers no GTA dlc no red dead dlc and alot of the guys that made rockstar great left

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gatorsPENSbucs
09/15/21 6:56:02 PM
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Whatever theyre doing theyre doing it right. Why come out with game after game when 1 game is making enough. Its sports games and Gta for me, so I would absolutely love a new one in less time but you cant be mad at people for making money.

Halo478 posted...
GTA online is where they went wrong

Halo478 posted...
it prints them billions yearly
Doesnt really make sense that they went wrong then

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ThePWBPoster
09/15/21 7:21:53 PM
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The thing about GTA V is that it still holds up today graphically the last gen systems made this one one of the best, for the current gen toss in constant updates of its online mode in terms of new stories and cars, races, other content and it will probably keep going as long as they keep putting money into it both Rockstar and its rabid fanbase.


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