Current Events > I pray that The Matrix 4 doesn't dissappoint.

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I've got such high hopes for it.

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It probably will.

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It's a cool franchise so I hope so.

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metallica846 posted...

First mistake is high hopes. Go in with really low hope and possibly be surprised.

Honestly this lol. I do it with every hyped product

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well that sucks. thought it was different people in charge but it's more or less the same ones.

the wachowskis got a bit too full of themselves(like peter jackson) so i doubt it'll be anything more than a "high art" piece that most of us probably "won't understand"..

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The story has been told, I dont know what else can be told so ivsee this being just a action movie with no substance but i will still watch

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Ivynn posted...

It probably will.

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Ivynn posted...

It probably will.

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sabrestorm posted...

The story has been told, I dont know what else can be told so ivsee this being just a action movie with no substance but i will still watch

Yeah, I don't know how they can change the story by adding anything else that's clever and believable, but oh well. They'll get my money anyway.

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dj1200 posted...

Yeah, I don't know how they can change the story by adding anything else that's clever and believable, but oh well. They'll get my money anyway.

There's a ton of directions they could go in. Just not one that would require neo. An uneasy truce between humans and machines doesn't automatically resolve the issue of the planet being borderline uninhabitable, competition for resources as more people opt out of The matrix, how to handle rogue AI elements or viruses, what happens as more and more people realize that they can have superpowers if they just believe, etc.

They could very easily spend most of the movie playing cyberpunk Van Helsing, or turn it into my hero academia where they have to set up superhero regulation because too many people are using their nearly discovered powers for crime or vigilante justice.

If the primary metaphor in the original trilogy is about change, it wouldn't be very hard to make a sequel movie around the often unexplored issue of what to do after when things don't turn out as idealistic as hoped or promised.

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After how the last movie ended, they better have a damn good reason why there should be a sequel.

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I wonder if it'll be like the first one of the sequels
I loved the action scenes in Reloaded as a kid to the point I'd sit there just them on replay over and over.
I watched the Neo vs Smith clone fight the other it's aged absolutely horrendously. Nowadays I prefer the more gritter and slightly more grounded feel of the first one.

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I expect nothing but disappointment

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dummy420 posted...

I expect nothing but disappointment

That's exactly my outlook on life.

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:(

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metallica846 posted...

First mistake is high hopes. Go in with really low hope and possibly be surprised.

this

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s0nicfan posted...

There's a ton of directions they could go in. Just not one that would require neo. An uneasy truce between humans and machines doesn't automatically resolve the issue of the planet being borderline uninhabitable, competition for resources as more people opt out of The matrix, how to handle rogue AI elements or viruses, what happens as more and more people realize that they can have superpowers if they just believe, etc.

They could very easily spend most of the movie playing cyberpunk Van Helsing, or turn it into my hero academia where they have to set up superhero regulation because too many people are using their nearly discovered powers for crime or vigilante justice.

If the primary metaphor in the original trilogy is about change, it wouldn't be very hard to make a sequel movie around the often unexplored issue of what to do after when things don't turn out as idealistic as hoped or promised.

I sill don't understand how Neo had his powers outside the Matrix. These movies were supposed to be grounded in reality in the sense that everything in them was scientifically possible or at least someday, and then Neo get telekinetic EMP powers outside the Matrix. It's like they just gave up and said fuck it let's make it a superhero movie.

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Have you seen trinity?

lol gonna be hard to take it seriously

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Pretty much every sequel that takes place decades later disappoints. I'd be shocked if this turned out good.

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Gamerguymass posted...

I sill don't understand how Neo had his powers outside the Matrix. These movies were supposed to be grounded in reality in the sense that everything in them was scientifically possible or at least someday, and then Neo get telekinetic EMP powers outside the Matrix. It's like they just gave up and said fuck it let's make it a superhero movie.

That felt like it was either an abandoned plot thread or just somehow tied into their heavy-handed Jesus metaphor. Like, given the fact that they had literal ports installed in their body it's not unreasonable to think that they also had some sort of equivalent or Bluetooth or NFC chips in them. So what was happening wasn't actually that neo had super powers but that his mastery of the matrix had allowed him to communicate with the electronics around him using the electronics in his body because his digital side (soul) never really leaves the matrix when he logs out.

Edit: but generally I agree with you that having options for an interesting sequel is not the same as creating an interesting sequel if it's coming from the same people who couldn't even create interesting sequels in their original trilogy.

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Gamerguymass posted...

I sill don't understand how Neo had his powers outside the Matrix. These movies were supposed to be grounded in reality in the sense that everything in them was scientifically possible or at least someday, and then Neo get telekinetic EMP powers outside the Matrix. It's like they just gave up and said fuck it let's make it a superhero movie.

yeah, i didn't like that either.

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Gamerguymass posted...

I sill don't understand how Neo had his powers outside the Matrix. These movies were supposed to be grounded in reality in the sense that everything in them was scientifically possible or at least someday, and then Neo get telekinetic EMP powers outside the Matrix. It's like they just gave up and said fuck it let's make it a superhero movie.

He could be communicating with the machines via The Matrix.
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Guys he was the one

He can do unexplainable things

that's all it was

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mattymad posted...

I don't even remember what happens in the last two movies. All I remember is it being dumb and I not liking it.

Plus I hear Fishburne isn't in this one and that sucks. He's cool.

I heard The Matrix Online (the dead mmo) is considered canon and Morpheous dies is that so...

Yeah no Laurence Fishburne is certainly a strike against the movie right off the bat. Two strikes when you consider he said they never even asked him in the first place.

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Matrix Revolutions sucked. I have no expectations for Matrix 4

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Gamerguymass posted...

I sill don't understand how Neo had his powers outside the Matrix. These movies were supposed to be grounded in reality in the sense that everything in them was scientifically possible or at least someday, and then Neo get telekinetic EMP powers outside the Matrix. It's like they just gave up and said fuck it let's make it a superhero movie.

People are still alive without sun

mobilebloechel posted...

There is a pretty valid behind the scenes reason why the last movie sucked so bad, and I think that's been resolved.

What was that?

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Gamerguymass posted...

Yeah no Laurence Fishburne is certainly a strike against the movie right off the bat. Two strikes when you consider he said they never even asked him in the first place.

Really? That's weird.

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It probably will

I honestly don't remember a thing about the sequels except there was a guy who looked like Colonel Sanders who ran the matrix, and there was like a French and/or Italian lady who had an amazaing rack.

mobilebloechel posted...

Lol oof, essentially one...or maybe both of the brothers...got caught up in some BDSM cult who fucked with their ideas and made them write the movie how they wanted, and it wasn't good ideas. There are articles about it, if you search hard enough

WTF! I never heard about this lol

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IronWolf87 posted...

I honestly don't remember a thing about the sequels except there was a guy who looked like Colonel Sanders who ran the matrix, and there was like a French and/or Italian lady who had an amazaing rack.

I remember that chick. In the Enter the Matrix game, she makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith and it's hot >_>

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NeonOctopus posted...

I remember that chick. In the Enter the Matrix game, she makes out with Jada Pinkett Smith and it's hot >_>

Damn, should have played that game.

mobilebloechel posted...

She kisses Trinity, but it's still great

Wow, I completely forgot about that scene. Probably cuz I've only seen Reloaded once in 2003 and played Enter the Matrix a bunch of times. I liked that game a lot

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mobilebloechel posted...

Lol oof, essentially one...or maybe both of the brothers...got caught up in some BDSM cult who fucked with their ideas and made them write the movie how they wanted, and it wasn't good ideas. There are articles about it, if you search hard enough

this can't be real

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Pandamonic posted...

That's exactly my outlook on life.

Then you can be pleasantly surprised when your wrong.

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dummy420 posted...

Then you can be pleasantly surprised when your wrong.

Exactly! Either I'm happy, or I'm right.

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I rewatched the original trilogy recently, honestly the sequels were not as bad as I remember

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IronWolf87 posted...

I honestly don't remember a thing about the sequels except there was a guy who looked like Colonel Sanders who ran the matrix, and there was like a French and/or Italian lady who had an amazaing rack.

Who is this woman

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mobilebloechel posted...

Lol oof, essentially one...or maybe both of the brothers...

i believe they are the sisters now.

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dj1200 posted...

Who is this woman

Just googled it apparently her character is named "Persephone"