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Heartomaton 09/05/21 10:43:34 PM #51: |
Aaaand Terra's been triggered. This'll be amusing. Dance for me.
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roos1046 Reborn 09/05/21 10:46:06 PM #52: |
justaguy3492 posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ this is pure gold --- When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself. https://imgur.com/FoV5u ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 09/05/21 10:47:51 PM #53: |
TerraSeeker posted...
@Ruvan22 A) So you believe the only reason to be vaccinated is to protect yourself from death? B) Feel free to link the survival rate - as you previously claimed the only way to transmit COVID was through sneezing, I'll wait for a source beyond your words. @TerraSeeker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/05/21 10:54:34 PM #54: |
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ROOTFayth 09/05/21 10:59:36 PM #55: |
TerraSeeker posted...
@Ruvan22the survival rate includes the mass vaccination of the past 9 months though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/05/21 11:04:06 PM #56: |
Ruvan22 posted...
A) So you believe the only reason to be vaccinated is to protect yourself from death?It's your implication not mine. You acted like I didn't get infected and needed someone to go out of their way to infect me. As for the statistics I don't need to link it. It's well known to be over 99% well over the 50% minimum for required for the definition of "most." --- Your words are as empty as your soul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/05/21 11:04:55 PM #57: |
ROOTFayth posted...
the survival rate includes the mass vaccination of the past 9 months thoughNo. It was known to before people were vaccinated. --- Your words are as empty as your soul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROOTFayth 09/05/21 11:06:24 PM #58: |
TerraSeeker posted...
It's your implication not mine. You acted like I didn't get infected and needed someone to go out of their way to infect me. As for the statistics I don't need to link it. It's well known to be over 99% well over the 50% minimum for required for the definition of "most."complications are still too prevalent for hospitals to handle though, so although theres the downside of pushing the virus to develop new variants by having a vaccine that doesnt immunize you entirely, this is still the best we have at the moment ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROOTFayth 09/05/21 11:07:17 PM #59: |
TerraSeeker posted...
No. It was known to before people were vaccinated.it wasnt known it keeps changing, even to this day ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wii_Shaker 09/05/21 11:07:52 PM #60: |
CE_gonna_CE posted...
It's tragic. You can feel the tone of pain and frustration in the sister's post too. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM 1970-2020 (G.O.A.T.) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 09/07/21 10:41:07 PM #61: |
TerraSeeker posted...
It's your implication not mine. You acted like I didn't get infected and needed someone to go out of their way to infect me. As for the statistics I don't need to link it. It's well known to be over 99% well over the 50% minimum for required for the definition of "most." A) Then why do you claim people don't need to get vaccinated? B) I never said anything about your infection, just what you claimed was the only infection vector C) As people have pointed out, that 99 % includes vaccinated people so... what's your point? D) Currently if you are UNVACCINATED and get COVID your chance of LIVING is pretty low, less than 10 %. Why roll the dice? "Survival rates for COVID-19 misrepresented in posts" https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-970830023526 @TerraSeeker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/08/21 12:04:33 AM #62: |
Ruvan22 posted...
A) Then why do you claim people don't need to get vaccinated?A) I've already stated why. C) No, the 99% was determined before the vaccine. D) False. Don't make up obvious bullshit. I like how your article talks about other factors affecting risk. It's pretty much acknowledging that not everyone needs the vaccine. --- Your words are as empty as your soul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/08/21 12:06:02 AM #63: |
"I refuse to live in fear"
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CADE FOSTER 09/08/21 12:16:56 AM #64: |
You can't fix stupid it's tragic
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Ruvan22 09/08/21 7:01:22 AM #65: |
TerraSeeker posted...
A) I've already stated why. A) I'm asking you to restate you reasoning then as it's been a few days. Why do most people not need the vaccine? (Also you never addressed how people who can't get the vaccine will be protected by those refusing to get it) C) Feel free to link proof of that - the article even describes how people like Tomi Laren mustard facts. As you said, don't make up bullshit. D) Did..did you not read the article? It's right there in it! (very last paragraph that starts with Data) E) Please show me where in the article it says that some factors mean you don't need the vaccine. Or show me any recommendations by medical groups. There's plenty of young healthy people who died recently from the Delta variant. @TerraSeeker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/08/21 7:30:50 AM #68: |
Honestly, the lack of concern or self awareness until it happens to them is disturbing. And it's only really an issue in America. Our culture is so fucked up to have produced so many people like this.
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CE_gonna_CE 09/08/21 9:40:25 AM #69: |
gunplagirl posted...
Honestly, the lack of concern or self awareness until it happens to them is disturbing. And it's only really an issue in America. Our culture is so fucked up to have produced so many people like this.There are definitely crazies in the UK and Canada as well. Not nearly to the extent as in the US, but theyre out there. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/08/21 2:38:15 PM #70: |
Ruvan22 posted...
A) I'm asking you to restate you reasoning then as it's been a few days. Why do most people not need the vaccine? (Also you never addressed how people who can't get the vaccine will be protected by those refusing to get it)A) I'm healthy, young, and active. I have no risk factors that would indicate Covid would be particularly deadly to me. In fact, I should have antibodies for it now. No one has the right to force me or anyone else to take the vaccine. As for people who can't get the vaccine, I would hope they're healthy enough that their risk is low. If not, there are monoclonal antibodies they use. Either way it wouldn't justify forcing people to take the vaccine. https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/08/19/what-is-regeneron-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/ C) There was literally a Covid tracker online throughout the pandemic. It seems unlikely to me that you never looked at it. Deaths were always close to 1% of the confirmed cases, and as your article says there were a lot of unconfirmed cases. Meaning the actually percentage would have been lower. D) Ruvan22 posted...
From https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-970830023526 Giordano said compared to the average COVID-19 death rate in the U.S., you look at what the vaccines can do, they decrease the risk of death and severe illness by more than 90 percent, 95 percent in the randomized studies.There's huge difference between what you said and what they said. You said there's a more than a 90% chance you will die of Covid if unvaccinated. They said the vaccine reduces odds of death and severe illness by more than 90%. Also they get the 90% out of an average. Meaning it doesn't appear to take into account whether someone has risk factors or not. --- Your words are as empty as your soul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 09/08/21 2:43:39 PM #71: |
goldenBoi45 posted...
This whole "taking joy in our political opponents' death" thing is getting a bit out of hand, don't you think? Basic common sense about health measures is not a "political side" to anyone except a few nutjobs in America. --- To Trumble, or not to Trumble, that is the question. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 09/08/21 2:44:44 PM #72: |
TerraSeeker posted...
Deaths were always close to 1% of the confirmed cases, and as your article says there were a lot of unconfirmed cases.The fact that you're happy to talk about the case count being an undercount, but make no mention of that the death count has the exact same effect in play, makes it very obvious that you have started with a conclusion then gone backwards to find anything that (looks like it) supports that conclusion. --- To Trumble, or not to Trumble, that is the question. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/08/21 2:49:56 PM #73: |
Trumble posted...
The fact that you're happy to talk about the case count being an undercount, but make no mention of that the death count has the exact same effect in play, makes it very obvious that you have started with a conclusion then gone backwards to find anything that (looks like it) supports that conclusion.No, doctors were encouraged to count deaths as Covid not the other way around. --- Your words are as empty as your soul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sewage 09/08/21 2:50:48 PM #74: |
How are there still people acting like death is the only reason to get vaccinated? How about the overwhelmed health system? How about the workers of said system literally killing themselves over the stress? How about the long term mental problems people have from covid? What about the long term lung damage? Death is one of many outcomes that make vaccination worth it. To completely disregard everything but death is fucking stupid this deep into the pandemic.
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Trumble 09/08/21 2:52:13 PM #75: |
Sewage posted...
How are there still people acting like death is the only reason to get vaccinated? How about the overwhelmed health system? How about the workers of said system literally killing themselves over the stress? How about the long term mental problems people have from covid? What about the long term lung damage? Death is one of many outcomes that make vaccination worth it. To completely disregard everything but death is fucking stupid this deep into the pandemic. Because they start with the conclusion that they want, and go backwards from there, looking specifically for evidence that supports it (and paying no attention to anything else - if not outright dismissing it as "false"). Almost EVERY case where people's logic isn't making sense, can be explained if you assume this was how they arrived at it - and this case is no exception. Those who are just grifters or (by the genuine meaning of the word) trolls aside, if you actually want to change minds, you need to figure out what's pushed them into wanting to conclude that it's all fake. Fear of injections (maybe due to a bad experience by them or someone close to them in the past)? Frustration at lockdowns / other anti-covid measures, perhaps because of the impact it's had on their personal life? Etc. Some people really are just stupid, though - can't fix that. --- To Trumble, or not to Trumble, that is the question. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Humble_Novice 09/08/21 3:14:46 PM #76: |
Idaho is going to hell thanks to rampant COVID.
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b_hamnite 09/08/21 3:21:17 PM #77: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
lmfao, the "Prayer warriors" part is so on point I'm Christian, but I'm also vaccinated, wear my mask, social distance and keep an eye on the science. Not every religious person is a whackado...just the really loud and obnoxious ones. The anti-vaxxers thing feels like such a catch 22. I've hit the point that let them reap what they sow is my opinion on the matter. However, as others point out, they don't just take themselves down. So, we either let them continue to be idiots and take care of them when "fuck around/find out" hits (which then takes icu beds away from people that 1. need them and 2. aren't morons that have a self inflicted virus killing them) or we start putting these people at the bottom of the list for beds and be branded as horrible people. I mean, let's be honest, at this point the majority will not get vaccinated and don't care about the toll it's taking. --- I miss the days when you could bring a game home and play, no updates to wait for. Now, get off my lawn. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 09/08/21 4:19:51 PM #78: |
Bump
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Grischnak 09/08/21 4:35:27 PM #79: |
Humble_Novice posted...
Idaho is going to hell thanks to rampant COVID. So is Israel. Oddly Isreal has one of the highest vacation rates in the world. Funny how that works. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dreepapult 09/08/21 4:38:43 PM #80: |
Yup all these guys are so stupid. No one that is anti-vax could possibly be capable of complex thought. I hope they all die! They deserve it. Hope their whole family dies too. And their dog.
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Forever_Black 09/08/21 4:47:39 PM #82: |
TerraSeeker posted...
Most people don't need the shot. true. I just had Covid. Shit was light work. --- Ooouuu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 09/08/21 5:11:46 PM #83: |
Grischnak posted...
So is Israel. Oddly Isreal has one of the highest vacation rates in the world. Funny how that works.They're vaccinating people over 12 years old and about a quarter of the population is under 12. That makes about 63% of the total population of Israel is fully vaccinated now. That leaves more than enough people for the virus to infect. But I'm sure you were trying to imply something else. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkBuster22904 09/09/21 9:36:24 AM #84: |
Dreepapult posted...
Yup all these guys are so stupid. No one that is anti-vax could possibly be capable of complex thought. I hope they all die! They deserve it. Hope their whole family dies too. And their dog. ![]() --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CE_gonna_CE 09/09/21 9:39:57 AM #85: |
Completely stable anti-vax rant right here
![]() Dude died of COVID. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivermectin 09/09/21 9:41:49 AM #86: |
Ruvan22 posted...
D) Currently if you are UNVACCINATED and get COVID your chance of LIVING is pretty low, less than 10 %. Why roll the dice? Hol up. --- Official Gamefaqs account of JRE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame Zero 09/09/21 9:45:31 AM #87: |
My gf works at a hospital, and many admitted patients very rarely even get to the 8th stage, and still deny the vaccine. That's one of the reasons she's so frustrated about this right now
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Damar 09/10/21 5:24:45 AM #89: |
TerraSeeker posted...
Most people don't need the shot. Not according to the Federal government. People who think like that can have fun without a job. Playtime is over. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kingbuffet 09/10/21 8:19:10 AM #91: |
then they beg for vaccine near the end and doctor has to say its too late..
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Ruvan22 09/11/21 10:40:45 PM #92: |
Bump to respond in depth to tomorrow
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Machete 09/11/21 10:41:52 PM #93: |
someone with a pony avatar
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Sackgurl 09/11/21 10:55:14 PM #94: |
TerraSeeker posted...
It's well known to be over 99% how well known would you say this figure is --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sackgurl 09/11/21 10:59:17 PM #95: |
Trumble posted...
if you actually want to change minds, you need to figure out what's pushed them into wanting to conclude that it's all fake. Fear of injections (maybe due to a bad experience by them or someone close to them in the past)? Frustration at lockdowns / other anti-covid measures, perhaps because of the impact it's had on their personal life? conservative talk radio began railing against vaccinations the day after donald trump was defeated in the presidential election --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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