Current Events > Are Microsoft and Sony feeling heat for the ps5 and series x launches?

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Zikten
08/13/21 7:04:49 PM
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I was reading comments on the ps5 page on Amazon and someone said 3rd party devs are angry because a bunch of systems are selling but hardly any games. Because most of the systems sold are bought by scalpers who aren't using them

At the very least I hope they learn from this for the next generation. But it is starting to piss me off. I hope the world turns on scalpers
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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:07:17 PM
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They need to limit sales to 1 per address, 1 per credit card, in any combination, and block pay pal, Google pay, and other means of proxying payment.

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Jabodie
08/13/21 7:09:08 PM
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Is that true?

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mooreandrew58
08/13/21 7:09:10 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They need to limit sales to 1 per address, 1 per credit card, in any combination, and block pay pal, Google pay, and other means of proxying payment.

Or contries need to start making it illegal. Like its ok to buy and resell shit but not for more than its sold for at stores.

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MacDaMurderer
08/13/21 7:09:18 PM
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Zikten posted...
Because most of the systems sold are bought by scalpers who aren't using them


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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:10:10 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Or contries need to start making it illegal. Like its ok to buy and resell shit but not for more than its sold for at stores.
First sale doctrine is considered a constitutional right so good luck with that

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monkmith
08/13/21 7:10:38 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They need to limit sales to 1 per address, 1 per credit card, in any combination, and block pay pal, Google pay, and other means of proxying payment.
good luck forcing those restrictions on the dozens of storefronts they sell their product through.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:11:30 PM
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monkmith posted...
good luck forcing those restrictions on the dozens of storefronts they sell their product through.
Wouldn't be hard really.

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monkmith
08/13/21 7:13:00 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Wouldn't be hard really.
how's microsoft or sony going to do that exactly?

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:14:18 PM
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monkmith posted...
how's microsoft or sony going to do that exactly?

Saying "we won't ship you any unless you agree to do this"

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FL81
08/13/21 7:15:04 PM
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OdafeOweh posted...
How exactly are Sony and Microsoft going to stop scalpers?

They cant prevent someone from buying a product.
Increase prices

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monkmith
08/13/21 7:15:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Saying "we won't ship you any unless you agree to do this"
and then watch companies like walmart just drop their products all together?

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Wii_Shaker
08/13/21 7:16:03 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They need to limit sales to 1 per address, 1 per credit card, in any combination, and block pay pal, Google pay, and other means of proxying payment.
Why would they do that when a sale is a sale to them?

Why sell one goon a PS5 when you can sell them 20?

It's not Sony or Microsoft's job to regulate the market on their products.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:17:09 PM
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monkmith posted...
and then watch companies like walmart just drop their products all together?

The restriction wouldn't apply to physical locations. It would just be for online sales. But even if they did stop carrying it, they don't need Wal Mart to sell their shit.

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iPhone_7
08/13/21 7:17:54 PM
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Was the Switch launch this bad?

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:19:01 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Why would they do that when a sale is a sale to them?
Because their customers are angry. Might as well ask "why patch bugs out of the game for free if they already bought the games?"

Wii_Shaker posted...
Why sell one goon a PS5 when you can sell them 20?

Because there's 19 goons behind him and their money is as good as his.

Wii_Shaker posted...
It's not Sony or Microsoft's job to regulate the market on their products.

You don't want the government involved here.

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Zikten
08/13/21 7:20:23 PM
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Like I said, customers and also 3rd party developers are angry. In the long run, unless they do something, playstation and xbox brand names will suffer in the future. Maybe everyone will just go back to Nintendo
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Zikten
08/13/21 7:21:27 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Because there's 19 goons behind him and their money is as good as his.

True. It is wiser to sell 1 product to 20 people than 20 products to 1 person
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sabrestorm
08/13/21 7:21:40 PM
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The problem is people keep buying from scalpers anything bought from a scalper should be confiscated by the law imo
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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:22:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
True. It is wiser to sell 1 product to 20 people than 20 products to 1 person

In this particular case the 20 goons will buy 20 games and the one guy will buy one. Or zero if he's buying just to scalp.

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sabrestorm
08/13/21 7:23:16 PM
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monkmith posted...
how's microsoft or sony going to do that exactly?

sell only to people with a verifiable psn account until there are plenty available
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LordFarquad1312
08/13/21 7:23:43 PM
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I can see 7 posts itt, lol.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/13/21 7:25:16 PM
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Then the third party devs can develop for other systems I guess.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 7:26:14 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
sell only to people with a verifiable psn account until there are plenty available
Psn accounts are free so that not gonna work.

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Smashingpmkns
08/13/21 7:31:06 PM
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Tbh I feel like Sony doesn't care too much (yet) and the storefronts will never care.
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NoxObscuras
08/13/21 7:38:26 PM
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3rd party developers are mad? That sounds like BS. There's only a handful of games that aren't also available on PS4/Xbox One. 3rd party software sales should not be suffering.

People having a hard time buying consoles is real, but "It'S mOsTLy ScAlPeRs" hasn't been true for a while. Just something angry people spread because they haven't been able to get one yet.

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Tsukasa1891
08/13/21 7:40:25 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Why would they do that when a sale is a sale to them?

Why sell one goon a PS5 when you can sell them 20?

It's not Sony or Microsoft's job to regulate the market on their products.
Because the real profit is in game sales. That one asshole who bought 20 systems to scalp isn't buying any games. The other 19 behind him would of.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 10:29:42 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
you know what hes doing with those 19 systems?

fucking selling them as quickly as he can, why would he sit on them in a market while the value would only go down
No one is buying them.

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Jiggy101011
08/13/21 10:43:54 PM
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Can't speak for Sony but Microsoft have used millions of their series X hardware to put in data centers to make their cloud network stronger.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/21 11:16:08 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
lol okay theyre just hoarding them like Smaug, clearly
They're not hoarding them. They're for sale. Feel free to buy one if you want. Low price of $800

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Zikten
08/13/21 11:18:46 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...

They're not hoarding them. They're for sale. Feel free to buy one if you want. Low price of $800

Or even more. I saw one on Amazon today for like 950 or something
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bnui_ransder
08/13/21 11:19:20 PM
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The dumbest thing about this shit is that they want to help stop scalpers..... by only making it purchasable online

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Hayame Zero
08/13/21 11:20:15 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
lol okay theyre just hoarding them like Smaug, clearly
No, that's actually true. Scalped consoles from bots are drastically high, but the buying rate for them from consumers is drastically low as well.

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Payzmaykr
08/13/21 11:29:03 PM
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Sony and Microsofts price was too expensive, as it is. Who is going to pay scalper prices? There arent any good games available for the system.

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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 12:28:16 AM
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oh shit, I can fail at this meme again.


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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 1:00:24 AM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
PlayStation has Windows?
Sony and Microsoft let you see the paradise of PC, but don't ever let you touch it.
Nintendo, however, gives you visceral glee, even if you think you're too old to do that any more.
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Tsukasa1891
08/14/21 8:10:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They're not hoarding them. They're for sale. Feel free to buy one if you want. Low price of $800
Only $800? Last I checked on amazon they were going for over $1,000.

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