Current Events > I think of myself as conservative but I don't like cops

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or the USA in general tbh

Revnir posted...

Politics isn't supposed to be a cult where you believe every single thing from one side

That's what I would think, but being reasonable is loser talk middle ground. No one wants to be in the middle, no one wants to be a loser.

wbloechel posted...

True conservatives want small government and limited police.

This subject, and then conservatives pushing voter ID drives me insane. Conservatives should be the ones demanding the right to not show your ID.

The perfect conservative.

wbloechel posted...

True conservatives want small government and limited police.

If only. Your party is now represented by #backtheblue and #stopthesteal.

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wbloechel posted...

True conservatives want small government and limited police.

they say while abusing the fuck out of the political power they wield...

anyone in power running on the claim they want less power is lying to you.

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you're beginning to transcend red vs blue

welcome to the higher echelon

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VigorouslySwish posted...

you're beginning to transcend red vs blue

welcome to the higher echelon

CE refers to this as "The Enlightened Centrist", a title that has been bestowed upon me when I spoke the magic words "both sides have done bad"

I also don't vote, and don't care about sources on news stories.

JimmyFraska posted...

don't care about sources on news stories.

Ah, so you're not someone worth respecting or engaging in discussion with. Thanks for the heads up

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That probably means you're an Ayn Rand loon.
Fun times.

That means you're really libertarian. Which is the smarter conservative party.

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Revnir posted...

Politics isn't supposed to be a cult where you believe every single thing from one side

Two party system is inherently flawed.

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Imit8m3 posted...

That means you're really libertarian. Which is the smarter conservative party.

Yet, even more obnoxiously idealistic somehow.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yet, even more obnoxiously idealistic somehow.

Yup, term limits. Balanced budget. Elimination of victimless crime laws (like drug use and prostitution).
It's actually best of both sides if you actually know what the party platform is.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

That probably means you're an Ayn Rand loon.
Fun times.

Imit8m3 posted...

That means you're really libertarian. Which is the smarter conservative party.

Maybe on some things, but for the most part I find libertarians annoying cause its almost impossible to actually stay a libertarian. Definitely not a fan of Ayn Rand.

Imit8m3 posted...

Yup, term limits. Balanced budget. Elimination of victimless crime laws (like drug use and prostitution).
It's actually best of both sides if you actually know what the party platform is.

Don't forget getting rid of unions, paid time off, maternal leave, unemployment, assistance programs, the age of consent, civil rights laws, the FDA, the post office, and the minimum wage. And adding more funding to fracking and prison privatization.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Don't forget getting rid of unions, paid time off, maternal leave, unemployment, assistance programs, the age of consent, civil rights laws, the FDA, the post office, and the minimum wage. And adding more funding to fracking and prison privatization.

No, that's the republican agenda. Libertarian and republican parties have switched places. All the nutjobs are Rump grabbers now.

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JimmyFraska posted...

This subject, and then conservatives pushing voter ID drives me insane. Conservatives should be the ones demanding the right to not show your ID.

Because some figure that the ones without ID would be more biased in their voting and it'd work against them.

Not saying that people with a ID are biased in their voting.

But it's obvious how people without ID or any documents might think or vote.

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Imit8m3 posted...

No, that's the republican agenda. Libertarian and republican parties have switched places. All the nutjobs are Rump grabbers now.

Every single one of those things except the age of consent was a primary focus of Jo Jorgenson's campaign. That's literally her exact platform.

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Plenty of Republicans support the police and the military.

But then you've got the anti-government conspiracy people who hate police, mail men, public education, etc. too.

There's a wide range of belief systems under the red-state umbrella. Some are more reasonable than you think. Others are exactly as bad as you'd expect.

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The GOP aren't even conservative, that's what in nuts

they are far right

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Yeah. He's clearly one of those dudes that wants legal pot but hates SJWs, so he hopped on the libertarian bandwagon thinking it's the best of worth worlds. Of course, he has no fucking clue what it's actually about.

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Term limits is a feel-good lightning rod that wouldn't solve anything. You'd have the same players stepping up to the next rung on the ladder, when the "boring," "smaller" races would just have people handpicked by the only forces who remain the same across terms, i.e. businesses and moneyed interests who have groomed their replacements. We would already have "term limits" if people paid attention to politics more often than every fourth year and actually engaged with their representatives.

There is actually value in creating professional connection and having experience. Otherwise, you have an endless parade of freshmen who will listen to the only forces of institutional stability who remain.

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Then I think of you as an pathetic sociopathic worm.

Albeit one with some hope of redemption as you don't like the police so you aren't a mindlessly bootlicker.

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Imit8m3 posted...

Yup, term limits. Balanced budget. Elimination of victimless crime laws (like drug use and prostitution).
It's actually best of both sides if you actually know what the party platform is.

Yeah until you ask them about taxes lol. "We don't need no taxes, the locals will maintain the roads without guberment telling us how to."

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Plenty of Republicans support the police and the military.

But then you've got the anti-government conspiracy people who hate police, mail men, public education, etc. too.

Luckily I don't hate mail men

No, even though they wouldn't revolutionize everything, term limits are still a good thing.

But plenty of people on every side suggest it. Very few follow though. Some people literally campaign on term limits then serve for the rest of their life.

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Eliminating eternal pensions for politicians would be a more effective term limit than term limits anyway.

JimmyFraska posted...

or the USA in general tbh

He's going all in on this one, folks.

FortuneCookie posted...

He's going all in on this one, folks.

don't believe in it. doesnt exist

wbloechel posted...

True conservatives want small government and limited police.

And you could fit the amount of current Republicans who actually believe that in a school bus.