Current Events > My older brother is an anti vaxer and it's pissing me off

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DepreceV2
07/30/21 7:52:02 AM
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I dont know how he can be so smart but so dumb at the same time. He has 3 kids. One is a new born and he still isnt getting it. He texted me and my younger brother asking if we got it willingly or was forced to get it. (We are all in healthcare) So he is most likely getting forced to get it and is upset about it. The rest of my family got the vaccine months ago. I dont know what the flying fuck he has going on in his head

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ROOTFayth
07/30/21 8:08:30 AM
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they just think the risks are worse than the reward, usually at least

my friend showed me the myocarditis side effects of the vaccine sitting at 1/10000, his absolute risks of being hospitalized in the next 90 days was 1/1427 given he has Diabetes type 1, so yeah the 1/10k made him quite anxious but on paper it seemed like the correct play

someone in good health at our age (between 30 and 40) had 1:5200 chance of being hopitalized, meaning vaccine is still better but apparently not by a lot
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RedJackson
07/30/21 8:09:26 AM
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DepreceV2
07/30/21 8:14:10 AM
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RedJackson posted...
Hes your brother, punch him

Im not driving almost 5 hours to punch my brother

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pikachupwnage
07/30/21 8:18:51 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
they just think the risks are worse than the reward, usually at least

my friend showed me the myocarditis side effects of the vaccine sitting at 1/10000, his absolute risks of being hospitalized in the next 90 days was 1/1427 given he has Diabetes type 1, so yeah the 1/10k made him quite anxious but on paper it seemed like the correct play

someone in good health at our age (between 30 and 40) had 1:5200 chance of being hopitalized, meaning vaccine is still better but apparently not by a lot

Given you can suffer

Cognitive decline
Memory issues
Fatigue
Muscle pain
Loss of smell
Loss of taste
Decreased lung capacity
Headaches
Erectile dysfunction
Depression
Organ damage
Etc.

Mid to long term from covid sometimes even without being hospitalized and that it is contagious...get fucking vaccinated.

If you get long covid you are so fucked(not in a I will die way but you will be miserable for months...if unlucky possibly permanently)

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LightHawKnight
07/30/21 8:20:35 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Given you can suffer

Cognitive decline
Memory issues
Fatigue
Muscle pain
Loss of smell
Loss of taste
Decreased lung capacity
Headaches
Depression
Organ damage

Mid to long term from covid sometimes even without being hospitalized and that it is contagious...get fucking vaccinated.

If you get long covid you are so fucked(not in a I will die way but you will be miserable for months...if unlucky possibly permanently)

Didnt some guy get tinnitus and committed suicide?

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RedJackson
07/30/21 8:21:32 AM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Im not driving almost 5 hours to punch my brother

Cmon dude, stop being lazy and drive 5 hours to punch your brother

actually, just get him this:



Then tell him COVID is gonna catch him off guard like that

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ROOTFayth
07/30/21 8:22:14 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Given you can suffer

Cognitive decline
Memory issues
Fatigue
Muscle pain
Loss of smell
Loss of taste
Decreased lung capacity
Headaches
Depression
Organ damage

Mid to long term from covid sometimes even without being hospitalized and that it is contagious...get fucking vaccinated.

If you get long covid you are so fucked(not in a I will die way but you will be miserable for months...if unlucky possibly permanently)
I think those long covid cases are rarer than hospitalisations are they not?

will try to find numbers on that, all Im saying us that there are legit valid concerns to the covid vaccine that didnt seem to be a thing with previous vaccines, the heart damage is probably the worse of them
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pikachupwnage
07/30/21 8:22:33 AM
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Also I would explore ways to get his kids vaccinated with or without his consent. Maybe his wife is more open to vaccines?

It could blowback and hurt your relationship but frankly I dunno if an Antivaxxer is worth having a relationship with. If he is into a lot of the psycho shit they tend to overlap with I would consider him a lost cause.

Opposing vaccines is like opposing water treatment. Okay yes let's all fucking throw out all progress and fucking die because not only are you too stupid to understand these things on even a gradeachooler level but you can't just leave it to the experts. No you have to try to uproot the fucking foundations of society because you are a scared child unwilling to learn or make incredibly small sacrifices for society or even your own children.


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LightHawKnight
07/30/21 8:23:19 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
I think those long covid cases are rarer than hospitalisations are they not?

will try to find numbers on that, all Im saying us that there are legit valid concerns to the covid vaccine that didnt seem to be a thing with previous vaccines, the heart damage is probably the worse of them

Wait. You think past vaccines did not have any side effects?

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MacDaMurderer
07/30/21 8:23:31 AM
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My sister and wife is also antivax. My wife is the side effects

My sister is a sage, Spirulina, Dr Sebi type. Her words: I take XYZ natural supplement and dont put poison in my body so COVID isnt a concern.


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AldousIsDead
07/30/21 8:23:53 AM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Given you can suffer

Cognitive decline
Memory issues
Fatigue
Muscle pain
Loss of smell
Loss of taste
Decreased lung capacity
Headaches
Depression
Organ damage
Etc.

Mid to long term from covid sometimes even without being hospitalized and that it is contagious...get fucking vaccinated.

If you get long covid you are so fucked(not in a I will die way but you will be miserable for months...if unlucky possibly permanently)
You forgot the erectile dysfunction. Ask me how I know.

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ROOTFayth
07/30/21 8:25:31 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Wait. You think past vaccines did not have any side effects?
no I do not think that
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pikachupwnage
07/30/21 8:27:55 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
You forgot the erectile dysfunction. Ask me how I know.

:(

R.I.P your dick. I think I have seen your posts about that.

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LightHawKnight
07/30/21 8:28:49 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
no I do not think that

Then the fuck are you worried. Past vaccines have a ton of side effects and people can die from them as well. Covid is far more deadly than the vaccine and people should stop bitching about it and talk to a real doctor if they are that worried.

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ROOTFayth
07/30/21 8:38:41 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Then the fuck are you worried. Past vaccines have a ton of side effects and people can die from them as well. Covid is far more deadly than the vaccine and people should stop bitching about it and talk to a real doctor if they are that worried.
my parents doctors told them to wait for a better vaccine than moderna/pfizer when I asked them why they wouldnt get the vaccine, apparently another one over here in trials should be ready by september

so there you go, not all doctors get to the same conclusions with the data we have
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LightHawKnight
07/30/21 8:42:05 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
my parents doctors told them to wait for a better vaccine than moderna/pfizer when I asked them why they wouldnt get the vaccine, apparently another one over here in trials should be ready by september

so there you go, not all doctors get to the same conclusions with the data we have

Thats where you do not understand. Not everyone can get vaccinated. If your parents doctor says your parents should not get it, then thats fine. That has NOTHING to do with you or anyone else though. Also always get a second opinion from another doctor. You never want one opinion on something that can save your life.

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ROOTFayth
07/30/21 8:47:04 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Thats where you do not understand. Not everyone can get vaccinated. If your parents doctor says your parents should not get it, then thats fine. That has NOTHING to do with you or anyone else though. Also always get a second opinion from another doctor. You never want one opinion on something that can save your life.
wtf do you mean nothing to do with me or anyone else, theyre my parents man
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Hayame Zero
07/30/21 9:02:04 AM
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My best friend is confusing and irritating sometimes. He's masking up and social distances, but also "feels it's unnecessary to get the vaccine" and thinks the severity of the illness is overblown.

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LightHawKnight
07/30/21 9:19:30 AM
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ROOTFayth posted...
wtf do you mean nothing to do with me or anyone else, theyre my parents man

So what? Your parents dont mean you or anyone else. Everyone should talk to a doctor if they are worried for whatever stupid reason. Also get a second opinion if your literal life is on the line.

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