Current Events > Dems. Can't cut Student debt, because ppl who didn't go to college would get mad

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Jabodie posted...

Unfortunately, 2016-2020 demonstrated how much worse the alternative option is to the status quo.

There is more than one alternative option.

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"you have to pay back money you were lent and have by now spent. your loan had a low, fixed interest rate to facilitate paying it ba-"

"NOOOoooooOOOOoo i don't wannaaaaa someone else dooooo iiiiitt "

People who always act like short-term relief can't help are just trying to sound smart.

It's okay to help people now and in the future you know.

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monkmith posted...

yeah i'm sure there's a ton of people that put themselves into crippling debt on the hope that someone would magic it away one day.

Youd be surprised.

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Kaiganeer posted...

your loan had a low, fixed interest rate to facilitate paying it ba-

Where the hell did you get that from?

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The number of people ITT surprised Pelosi doesn't support a regressive policy is a really good example of how little the internet understands politics.

Trumble posted...

There is more than one alternative option.

No, no there isn't, and you're a right-wing chud that knows this.

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Democrats are fucking useless

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It seems like Biden's done a lot that should in theory require an act of Congress. Why should student debt be any different?

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TerraSeeker posted...

It seems like Biden's done a lot that should in theory require an act of Congress. Why should student debt be any different?

Take a HS us gov class.

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It would be okay to not forgive Student Debt if they at least did something about the extortionate behaviour that we see surrounding student loans.

Tuition is like 2x-3x the cost of the same education if you're Canadian. That means there needs to be some major changes.

This is clearly an issue, something needs to be done about it.

Proto_Spark posted...

It would be okay to not forgive Student Debt if they at least did something about the extortionate behaviour that we see surrounding student loans.

Tuition is like 2x-3x the cost of the same education if you're Canadian. That means there needs to be some major changes.

This is clearly an issue, something needs to be done about it.

I think the big promise on this issue by the Biden admin is free tuition for public universities. Seems like the right move.

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When are people going to realize we need to band together against ALL politics? Red and Blue both. They have us busy arguing about which wealthy asshole with too much power is better than the other, when in reality they are all fucking garbage that only care about their own nepotistic desires. Stop arguing with one another and start banding together against the govt in general.

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VigorouslySwish posted...

When are people going to realize we need to band together against ALL politics? Red and Blue both. They have us busy arguing about which wealthy asshole with too much power is better than the other, when in reality they are all fucking garbage that only care about their own nepotistic desires. Stop arguing with one another and start banding together against the govt in general.

The primary issue driving inequality is not billionaires vs everyone else, despite modern left rhetoric. The issue is providing for the poor when the middle class sees that as a threat.

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No, the people that will get mad will be the ones thst already went to college and paid off their debts

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COVxy posted...

The primary issue driving inequality is not billionaires vs everyone else, despite modern left rhetoric. The issue is providing for the poor when the middle class sees that as a threat.

What makes you think I'm part of the 'left' lmao

People like you, the blind followers, you're the problem and you are why most likely nothing will ever change for the better

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VigorouslySwish posted...

What makes you think I'm part of the 'left' lmao

People like you, the blind followers, you're the problem and you are why most likely nothing will ever change for the better

Lol wtf is this

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Lol wtf is this

It's a callout for the politically brainwashed

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VigorouslySwish posted...

It's a callout for the politically brainwashed

Dude his post didn't even say you were a leftist.

Also leftist =/= Democrat

Also lmao

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VigorouslySwish posted...

What makes you think I'm part of the 'left' lmao

People like you, the blind followers, you're the problem and you are why most likely nothing will ever change for the better

I never suggested you were left. It was clear you were right-wing.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Dude his post didn't even say you were a leftist.

Also leftist =/= Democrat

Also lmao

"despite modern left rhetoric"

learn to read bud

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COVxy posted...

I never suggested you were left. It was clear you were right-wing.

see my above post

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VigorouslySwish posted...

"despite modern left rhetoric"

learn to read bud

He said that "billionaire vs everyone else" was modern left rhetoric, not specifically what you were saying

Do you have trouble reading lol

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COVxy posted...

The issue is providing for the poor when the middle class sees that as a threat.

Cool lets support policies that actually help the poor then instead of paying off student loans!

Pelosi looking pretty red there.

What a shame that the alternative to voting Democrat in America is helping literal neo Nazis, because the GQP is x1000 worse and third party can't even get 5% in 2016


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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Cool lets support policies that actually help the poor then instead of paying off student loans!

Umm....paying off student loans is one of those things we can do to help the poor

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Umm....paying off student loans is one of those things we can do to help the poor

You're responding to someone with Stalin in their username, keep that in mind

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I don't want my taxes increased to pay for other people's student loans.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Cool lets support policies that actually help the poor then

All for that. Student loans forgiveness, and any policy that makes education more accessible to the poor helps with that.

But really, I feel no need to discuss anything with you given your clear motivated reasoning and relative privilege when it comes to these things.

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PC-Builder_Pony posted...

I don't want my taxes increased to pay for other people's student loans.

Don't worry, your taxes will increase regardless with no benefit to you.

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Umbreon posted...

Don't worry, your taxes will increase regardless with no benefit to you.

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I wonder. Do Americans who paid off their student loans or did not go to college object to bailing out the post-college debtors more than they object to bailing out big banks, ect?

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COVxy posted...

All for that. Student loans forgiveness, and any policy that makes education more accessible to the poor helps with that.

lol yeah man, it'll trickle down to the poor people who don't get into college in the first place

we should pay off people's mortgages while we're at it, you know to help the homeless!

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lol yeah man, it'll trickle down to the poor people who don't get into college in the first place

we should pay off people's mortgages while we're at it, you know to help the homeless!

Another hot Broseph take: There's no poor people in college or who have student loan debt (debt that's often part of the reason they're poor!)

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Another hot Broseph take: There's no poor people in college or who have student loan debt

I don't think "poor people can't go to college" is a point that hits the way he wants it to.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Another hot Broseph take: There's no poor people in college or who have student loan debt

Of course not. No one was told to go to college to get a high paying job, they just go into tens of thousands into debt for their health. /s

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We should cancel student debt so that the people who agreed to take on the debt in exchange for attending high universities will finally shut the f*** up.

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Ivsay cancel the debt I wont get mad because I have no olans for college

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hockeybub89 posted...

I don't think "poor people can't go to college" is a point that hits the way he wants it to.

Tbf, I was told by a social worker that people like me shouldn't try to go to college, so it's not that abnormal of a viewpoint!

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hockeybub89 posted...

I don't think "poor people can't go to college" is a point that hits the way he wants it to.

Tuition isn't what keeps poor people from going to college, but it's really hard to explain that to people on CE since so few of you grew up poor.

Umbreon posted...

No one was told to go to college to get a high paying job, they just go into tens of thousands into debt for their health. /s

They go 30k into debt to get a degree that will make them a million dollars more over their lifetime. They earn twice as much as high school graduates and are twice as likely to be employed. Some important context you left out there!

This has all been explained to you guys a million times, you just don't want to hear it. Just like Republicans know tax cuts for the rich don't actually help the poor, it's just something they tell people.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

They go 30k into debt to get a degree that will make them a million dollars more over their lifetime. They earn twice as much as high school graduates and are twice as likely to be employed.

Yes, but as everyone here is aware of (besides you, apparently), sometimes those degrees don't pay off, especially when you graduate into an economic recession and there's a shortage of high-paying jobs.

You would actually know this if you bothered to spend any amount of time in reality.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

but it's really hard to explain that to people on CE since so few of you grew up poor.

Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Yes, but as everyone here is aware of (besides you, apparently), sometimes those degrees don't pay off, especially when you graduate into an economic recession and there's a shortage of high-paying jobs.

There's never been a shortage of high-paying jobs dude we literally have a labor shortage. Incomes wouldn't have risen as much as they did in the last 10 years if that wasn't the case. And incomes for the college-educated have risen much more than high school graduates.

Some of you will never admit to supporting regressive policies though. So you'll all tell yourselves that Democrats, who just passed $2 trillion in aid to poor people and want a infrastructure bill next are... opposed to spending money to help people?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Tuition isn't what keeps poor people from going to college, but it's really hard to explain that to people on CE since so few of you grew up poor.

At least we grew up with souls

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Tuition isn't what keeps poor people from going to college, but it's really hard to explain that to people on CE since so few of you grew up poor.

He says, having started this conversation being a smart ass to someone who has.

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Broseph is like "haha the poor" until a discussion about student debt forgiveness and free college comes up. Then he's full "Eat the rich"

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hockeybub89 posted...

At least we grew up with souls

lol yeah man all of us who grew up poor are soulless, super progressive stuff.

Please just stop LARPing as a working-class movement, it's so embarrassing.

Very libertarian stance Nance
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

There's never been a shortage of high-paying jobs dude we literally have a labor shortage. Incomes wouldn't have risen as much as they did in the last 10 years if that wasn't the case. And incomes for the college-educated have risen much more than high school graduates.

Plenty of college graduates are underemployed. Also, I shouldn't have to tell you this, but higher pay doesn't matter if you have more debt and living expenses are increasing.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

lol yeah man all of us who grew up poor are soulless, super progressive stuff.

No, you're just making an ass out of yourself by assuming everyone's financial situation and being smug about it.

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Broseph behaves like an ass. What else is new?

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