Current Events > How come trump supporters source pragerU, breitbart ,etc thinking its factual?

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Squidkids
07/28/21 11:10:25 AM
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someone really used them unirionically as a "source" to me.. like at some point you think they would be aware some of this BS .. is BS?

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JlM
07/28/21 11:16:38 AM
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Because they're fucking stupid.
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Doom_Art
07/28/21 11:18:25 AM
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It's embarrassing that they think people can't just see right through it

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Squidkids
07/28/21 11:49:52 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
It's embarrassing that they think people can't just see right through it
ya i really.. don't get it..

Why as a society can't we have conservative movements based on fact?

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UnfairRepresent
07/28/21 11:50:36 AM
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Because it says what they want to be true

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Heartomaton
07/28/21 11:51:09 AM
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JlM posted...
Because they're fucking stupid.

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Prestoff
07/28/21 11:53:37 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because it says what they want to be true

This

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hsvhighlife
07/28/21 11:54:20 AM
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same reason people cite CNN, wapo, WHO, bbc, etc

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brestugo
07/28/21 11:56:44 AM
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hsvhighlife posted...
same reason people cite CNN, wapo, WHO, bbc, etc

WHOOOOOOOOOSH!

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TheMikh
07/28/21 11:58:27 AM
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prager u is a neocon front organization intended to keep followers from straying too far from the ideological ranch

breitbart, conversely, basically created the trump movement - there's a fascinating extended interview with bannon which includes describing how he weaponized it to turn the tea party against the gop establishment, and how its unfiltered comment section basically provided organically sourced talking points and policy proposals that would be used to formulate trump's platform in 2016

so in short: prageru is a grift, while breitbart has a bit of a historical feedback loop with conservative populism

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ThunderTrain
07/28/21 11:58:30 AM
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It goes even deeper than those websites. They don't even cite their sources for anything anymore. It's just "You watch too much mainstream media" or "Do your own research"

They just make things up now.

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ZevLoveDOOM
07/28/21 12:00:45 PM
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imagine someone using Info Wars as a legit source of information...
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StopSteel16
07/28/21 12:10:11 PM
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What makes them illegitimate sources? You didn't actually explain that, TC.
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TheMikh
07/28/21 12:10:48 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
imagine someone using Info Wars as a legit source of information...
it certainly isn't, though to play the devil's advocate, it did offer a nice counterpoint to political discourse during the years before the democratic establishment finally decided that opposing bush's wars and encroachment on civil liberties was politically worthwhile

of course back in those days it was just public access radio/tv in austin rather than nationally syndicated

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CableZL
07/28/21 12:10:49 PM
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StopSteel16 posted...
What makes them illegitimate sources? You didn't actually explain that, TC.
It has already been explained in this topic, but you chose to ignore it.

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StopSteel16
07/28/21 12:15:00 PM
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CableZL posted...
StopSteel16 posted...
What makes them illegitimate sources? You didn't actually explain that, TC.
It has already been explained in this topic, but you chose to ignore it.

I don't see any reliable sources that explain why they're illegitimate. It's nothing but biased opinions.
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Squidkids
07/28/21 12:30:21 PM
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StopSteel16 posted...
I don't see any reliable sources that explain why they're illegitimate. It's nothing but biased opinions.
facts you disagree with does not make them "biased opinions"

one spokeperson on prageru:
https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1134778322695720960?lang=en

here is some other stuff debunking their nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF7qJ1K4VOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMzjvpsYf8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwuFIJlY7fU&t=1002s

i had it in the original post but I took it out seeing it is a possible website violation with some of my added comments to the person promoting prageru

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CableZL
07/28/21 12:33:15 PM
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StopSteel16 posted...
I don't see any reliable sources that explain why they're illegitimate. It's nothing but biased opinions.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prageru/

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Failed Fact Checks, False Claims
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

Detailed Report
Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

Although, something tells me that a flat earther doesn't actually care about "reliable sources."

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UnholyMudcrab
07/28/21 12:34:57 PM
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Squidkids
07/28/21 12:35:50 PM
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CableZL posted...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prageru/

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Failed Fact Checks, False Claims
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

Detailed Report
Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

Although, something tells me that a flat earther doesn't actually care about "reliable sources."
that person is a legit flat earther?
@StopSteel16 ?

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Shezarr
07/28/21 12:37:04 PM
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It's realdill, why are y'all bothering lol

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The-Apostle
07/28/21 12:38:46 PM
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hsvhighlife posted...
same reason people cite CNN, wapo, WHO, bbc, etc
I came in to say this. >_>

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ThunderTrain
07/28/21 12:40:09 PM
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CableZL posted...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/prageru/

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Failed Fact Checks, False Claims
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Organization/Foundation
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

Detailed Report
Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

Although, something tells me that a flat earther doesn't actually care about "reliable sources."

They don't care about that. Any fact checker website is "liberal bias"

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StopSteel16
07/28/21 12:45:34 PM
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Shezarr posted...
It's realdill, why are y'all bothering lol

Didnt you also accuse me of being some guy named SMAL?
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/28/21 12:46:30 PM
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JlM posted...
Because they're fucking stupid.

Really all there is to it.

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Machete
07/28/21 12:46:33 PM
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StopSteel16 posted...


Didnt you also accuse me of being some guy named SMAL?


You posted realdillshit in a warned topic
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COVxy
07/28/21 12:48:10 PM
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Things I agree with = facts and science

In fact, to determine science from pseudoscience, I just ask myself "do I agree with this?"

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C_Pain
07/28/21 12:49:50 PM
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but legit how do you know that the media bias site isn't biased in itself?

that's why ya gotta be a centrist

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Cheater87
07/28/21 12:52:11 PM
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Propaganda.

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Proto_Spark
07/28/21 12:52:44 PM
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Its because people in general want things that reinforce their existing opinions, not that disprove them.

So PragerU et al,. just take right-wing talking points and make it sound like its the reasonable conclusion to come to if you look at the facts, and their audience doesn't care about checking the facts, they just want someone to tell them they're right.

Its just more common on the right-wing, because there are more right-wing talking points that are pure BS.
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IMNOTRAGED
07/28/21 1:00:10 PM
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Squidkids posted...
ya i really.. don't get it..

Why as a society can't we have conservative movements based on fact?

Conservatism isn't compatible with modern society

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Antifar
07/28/21 1:12:00 PM
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It's all about who you trust. You can't confirm every bit of news independently; you have to rely on other sources. You and me and have put our faith in more or less mainstream institutions and media to more or less get things right. People on the right have been told by all the people that they trust that those sources are lying to them and actively engaged in undermining the country.

Like, I think one of those perspectives is better connected to reality, but the process is largely the same.

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TheMikh
07/28/21 1:17:11 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Conservatism isn't compatible with modern society

conservatism is just the LTS version of liberalism

the modern gop, evangelical and libertarian wings aside, is basically the mid-late 00s dnc at this point

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Shezarr
07/28/21 1:23:17 PM
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Has TheMikh ever posted something that wasn't just insane drool?

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Machete
07/28/21 1:23:58 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Has TheMikh ever posted something that wasn't just insane drool?


No, that one just blocks people who don't even know them
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UnholyMudcrab
07/28/21 1:24:06 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Has TheMikh ever posted something that wasn't just insane drool?

He has me blocked lmao. I'm surprised he hasn't blocked you.
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Machete
07/28/21 1:24:44 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...


He has me blocked lmao. I'm surprised he hasn't blocked you.


lol nice
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Shezarr
07/28/21 1:25:29 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
He has me blocked lmao. I'm surprised he hasn't blocked you.
If you're curious about the insanity, he's saying the modern GOP is where the DNC was in the mid-2000s

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brestugo
07/28/21 1:58:36 PM
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STOPSTEEL16

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username is also some play on 'stop the steal' probably

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Shezarr
07/28/21 2:01:30 PM
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Again, its realdill

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LightHawKnight
07/28/21 2:02:43 PM
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JlM posted...
Because they're fucking stupid.


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Solar_Crimson
07/28/21 2:40:02 PM
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JlM posted...
Because they're fucking stupid.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Because it says what they want to be true


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