Current Events > Left Leaning peeps, what is your most conservative view?

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Irony posted...

Semi against abortion

this.

I respect a woman's right to her body. Especially if rape and if it endangers her life.

But I can't personally decide to abort a baby and be okay with it. I'd practice safe sex or be responsible with bringing a baby in this world, especially at this point in my life

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obama want to put us in hobbit homes

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Aressar posted...

Concerning immigrants, I think there should be more focus on assimilation, rather than letting immigrants do their own thing all they want. Settling in a new country means having to abide and live by certain new rules and customs that you weren't used to before. It is ok if people maintain part of their culture, but not integrating enough causes mutual friction, distrust and conflict.

what if I told you that friction comes from uneducated Americans

Funkydog posted...

I once enjoyed a conservatory.

lol

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Aressar posted...

Concerning immigrants, I think there should be more focus on assimilation, rather than letting immigrants do their own thing all they want. Settling in a new country means having to abide and live by certain new rules and customs that you weren't used to before. It is ok if people maintain part of their culture, but not integrating enough causes mutual friction, distrust and conflict.

I agree with this on some level. There's so many immigrants here, mostly the older folks that refuse to learn and practice the english language (despite it not being official, it should). I mean really it's just practicing with people.

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ThePusher posted...

trumper post

Lihbrul reply

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I'm anti-abortion

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Aressar posted...

Concerning immigrants, I think there should be more focus on assimilation, rather than letting immigrants do their own thing all they want. Settling in a new country means having to abide and live by certain new rules and customs that you weren't used to before. It is ok if people maintain part of their culture, but not integrating enough causes mutual friction, distrust and conflict.

Then there would be no Little Italys or Chinatowns. And forcing them to change to suit your views is anti-American. We are a nation of immigrants, forcing new immigrants to change to a new culture just because you don't like their culture makes you no better than the place they came from, if they were fleeing persecution.

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Where does this idea of being pro gun = conservative come from?

Anyway I'm not exactly sure what my most conservative view is tbh. When I saw the topic, I was sure I could come up with something but here I am, still struggling.

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Mareen posted...

Where does this idea of being pro gun = conservative come from?

Guns are definitely more conservative, depending on the level of free access desired.

I imagine there are more pro-gun liberals than anti-gun conservatives, though.

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divot1338 posted...

Funkydog posted...
I once enjoyed a conservatory.

lol

At least one person enjoyed my joke.

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Funkydog posted...

At least one person enjoyed my joke.

Funkydog in the conservatory with the candlestick

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As someone from the UK and Canada, the US just has a bizarre fetish for guns. The reason you seem to want a gun for protection is because guns are so freely accessible to people that are a threat to you.


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I think "acab" is hot nonsense, although obviously the system needs major reform.

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Due to environmental and economical concerns, as well has human rights issues, Ive been asking myself which values even made me conservative in the first place. To tell you the truth, I feel myself moving further to the left, and the only main conservative viewpoint that I still very strongly agree with is gun rights.

I dont trust any politician and I will probably never vote again in my life, but its better to reevaluate your political views as the political climate (and the voter base) changes.

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I'm for the death penalty, though I absolutely understand why other people are not.

It should, of course, be reserved solely for the lowest of the low(Subjective, I know). The irredeemable, the unsalvageable.

Granted we need to work on our prisons as well, no more of this 'For profit' bullshit that's legalized slavery.

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Guide posted...

I think "acab" is hot nonsense, although obviously the system needs major reform.

Agreed, considering how many times police have saved people without question.
It's always "Fuck the police!" until they need the police, then suddenly it's "help, help!"

Payzmaykr posted... Due to environmental and economical concerns, as well has human rights issues, Ive been asking myself which values even made me conservative in the first place. To tell you the truth, I feel myself moving further to the left, and the only main conservative viewpoint that I still very strongly agree with is gun rights.

I dont trust any politician and I will probably never vote again in my life, but its better to reevaluate your political views as the political climate (and the voter base) changes.

I don't think it's you moving left, it's the conservative politicians moving further and further right.

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Funkydog posted...

At least one person enjoyed my joke.

I did too!

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This turned into quite a topic lol

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Extremely left wing here. I think guns are mostly fine. Like, objectively speaking, yes they're a public safety problem and America has a horrible gun violence problem, but in spite of that, I would still rather normal people have weapons than the state.

I still get very annoyed at people who lie about and downplay gun violence, and people who pretend to own them out of some ideological "muh freedom" conviction, or LARPing about how you're going to someday use it to defend your family someday from fascism or communists or whatever. It's like, shut up, you just like owning a gun because they're cool. You and your fucking personal armory aren't going to stop a swat team from kicking down your door if authoritarians ever take over America. (Or, alternatively, some people constantly fantasize about getting to shoot someone.)

I'm still pretty much fine with mass gun ownership (especially because I come from a hunting family), but people shouldn't pretend like it's anything but a fun little hobby. Basing your entire politics and personality around what's essentially a hobby is so fucking dumb. Muh 2nd Amendment people are stupid.

Another one: Alcoholism is a horrible addiction and vice that Americans are way too casual about. American culture normalizes alcoholic behaviors so much that many alcoholics pass under the radar as normal functional people, when lowkey their addiction is actually deeply destructive to themselves and their families. I guess that counts as a "conservative" view because I think a lot of teetotaling fundamentalist Christians would agree with me. I don't want to do Prohibition or anything again, but I would like more community outreach, support for families effected by alcoholism and maybe some kind of limit on purchases like we already do with overcounter medicines.

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I was forced to lean left by the definition of left leaning being changed to "anyone who doesn't agree with Trump."

So this is the inverse for me. I grew up in a Republican family and turned into a Democrat apparently. I don't feel comfortable with that association strictly since I think for the most part Democrats mean well dumbly, but I'm not seeing anything to recommend the other side, I don't think I have to elaborate too far on that.

The last five years have been weird for me to say the least.

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Shezarr posted...

I did too!

Even better then.

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porn is evil

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

porn is evil

Eh, thats debatable.

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Ketchup belongs on steak

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We should be fiscally responsible.

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I'm going to go with rules and limitations on abortions are arbitrary. The reason why this presents as "conservative" is that prereqs I'm not advocating either for and against abortion. Society has deemed we (may) require some level of restriction on the operation but I don't think any point in the pregnancy is particularly more ethical than another, so whatever the requirement is it will be arbitrary. Therefore harder prerequisites to abortion are as justifiable as weaker ones, if we have requirements.

Granted by the same measure this means I also wouldn't care if there were none, and abortions are freely available, which is very unconservative.

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For me its definitely hypocrisy

I love the weekly hypocrisy trip to woowoo land where I get angry at the other side for shit I did.

Being pro-gun is absolutely a conservative view.

Anyone saying otherwise is stubbornly refusing to have any common ground with conservatives.

Idk, probably my general lack of sympathy for people who get addicted to meth and fuck up their lives. It's not systemic oppression or whatever. You gotta be a straight moron to get on that stuff.
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FortuneCookie posted...

Being pro-gun is absolutely a conservative view.

Anyone saying otherwise is stubbornly refusing to have any common ground with conservatives.

it's a viewpoint that many conservatives have, but that doesn't make it a "conservative view"

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I'm no economist, but I don't love the idea of a $15 min. wage, obviously it's not that simple but I think part of me thinks I'll just be salty that a 16 year old could be making what it took me years to make. I fully acknowledge it's petty it isn't a good reason for it but it doesn't sit right.

I'm open to a CMV ofc

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Damn, I tried finding common ground with the left, but:



I guess I'm not about that bullshit.

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Shezarr posted...

teep_ posted...

(Heavily regulated) capitalism is preferable to socialism or Marxism

Also yeah, this too. Which I don't think is a conservative viewpoint at all but it seems to be among the modern left nowadays.

I mean, TC did ask more "most conservative", not "conservative"
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Damn, I tried finding common ground with the left, but:



I guess I'm not about that bullshit.

Vicious dios is a quarter female confirmed

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sometimes I enjoy slipping the occasional false equivalence into my whataboutisms. it's a pretty classic combo.

Jill Biden wants to be a strong woman and whines when we don't call her Dr Biden, but has no complaints when Joe calls her "dear?" hypocrites.
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averagejoel posted...

it's a viewpoint that many conservatives have, but that doesn't make it a "conservative view"

Of course. It's not a "conservative view" unless they're espousing hatred for minorities or the poor.

FortuneCookie posted...

Of course. It's not a "conservative view" unless they're espousing hatred for minorities or the poor.

those are also common among conservatives. but again, that does not make them conservative views

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MrDrMan posted...

I wish nobody had guns. I do believe theyre necessary since theres no feasible way to take them at this point.

If it were up to me though nobody would have them.

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Conservatives probably would win in a fight

What makes a man turn neutral?

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averagejoel posted...

those are also common among conservatives. but again, that does not make them conservative views

I don't know how you would define a conservative view. If you're talking strictly according to rules of fiscal conservativism or being socially restrictive, then I suppose it wouldn't be.

Personally, I would define a conservative view according to political talking points. The left is often quiet on the issue of gun ownership or vocally opposed to it. Being "pro gun" is solidly a conservative political view.

Hah, here's another one



https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php

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FortuneCookie posted...

I don't know how you would define a conservative view. If you're talking strictly according to rules of fiscal conservativism or being socially restrictive, then I suppose it wouldn't be.

yes. the reasonable way to define which views are in line with an ideology is to compare them to said ideology.

Personally, I would define a conservative view according to political talking points. The left is often quiet on the issue of gun ownership or vocally opposed to it. Being "pro gun" is solidly a conservative political view.

why on earth would you allow talking points to dictate which views are in line with an ideology when the actual ideology exists independently of that?

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Gun ownership is a-ok
NASCAR is cool

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hockeybub89 posted...

NASCAR is cool

Wow... you're outta control.

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guns...
just need to take them way more seriously.

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That the wall needs to be built, or at the very least, heavy immigration reform is in order. Living in a border I see firsthand just how bad it is every day.

That alternate gender pronouns are getting out of control. Look, I'm gay myself, but frankly without what we typically think of as heteronormative language in place things can get pretty ridiculous, pretty fast. I'm not negating the actual feelings of being a he, a she, or neither, or both, but demanding others keep up with you reeks of ego.

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2d women > 3d women