Current Events > ps3/360 gen was the last time gaming was fun

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lol this question always eventually gets bumped up to the next generation.

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Darmik posted...

lol this question always eventually gets bumped up to the next generation.

no. that was the last gen before every game became about open world looter shooters.

its objectively the last good one.

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Darmik posted...

lol this question always eventually gets bumped up to the next generation.

It's cause it has nothing to do with the games and it's more about the phase in people's lives.

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Swagnet0 posted...

no. that was the last gen before every game became about open world looter shooters.

its objectively the last good one.

Yes yes yes people never said the 360/PS3 gen was when gaming got ruined because it was all about DLC, online multiplayer and season passes.

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Yes. The PS4s lineup was absolutely disappointing, especially for RPG fans. Then they took all of the good PS3 games and made them PS4 games, then they took the PS3 version off so that you had to repurchase your games unless you wanted to plug the PS3 back in.

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Old man

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Overall I think I enjoyed my PS4 more than the 360/PS3. Better games IMO.

Itachi157 posted...

Overall I think I enjoyed my PS4 more than the 360/PS3. Better games IMO.

how old are you..

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Swagnet0 posted...

how old are you..

31

Don't answer rhetorical questions

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I also don't play looter shooters or most open world games, but there were plenty of games that weren't those

Itachi157 posted...

31

exactly.

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I still find games fun, but that was probably the point I was least interested in games. Its also the last console generation i bought.

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Swagnet0 posted...

exactly.

He just said its his opinion, though. I agree with you, but we cant expect everyone to agree.

The PS4s library might have been great for someone with different tastes, but it just wasnt for me.

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Darmik posted...

lol this question always eventually gets bumped up to the next generation.

Seriously lmao.

Like.. how do people NOT notice this?

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rexcrk posted...

Seriously lmao.

Like.. how do people NOT notice this?

Swagnet0 posted...

no. that was the last gen before every game became about open world looter shooters.

its objectively the last good one.

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I feel like people don't take into consideration the amount of games released and their accessibility compared to previous gens when they say stuff like that. All they look at is the most popular games and get tunnel vision.


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No. PS2/GCN/Xbox was the last gen before every game became about tacked on multiplayer modes and dull looking shooters.

No. PS1/N64 was the last gen before every game became about tryhard grimdark action games and shitty licensed tie-ins.

No. SNES/Genesis was the last generation before every game became about making bad playing 3D games.

No. NES/Master System was the last generation before every game became about shitty mascot 2D platformers.

I dunno what people said before that. Probably people that thought chasing high scores and single screen gaming was peak game design.

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a bunch of 30 ear olds acting like theyre some kind of enlightened beings, lol. rich

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Swagnet0 posted...

a bunch of 30 ear olds acting like theyre some kind of enlightened beings, lol. rich

It helps when you can argue the points instead of taking the route of trying to discredit the people on the other side of the argument through petty made up reasons for dismissal. You're the only one who sounds like they're trying to stand on a pedestal above others. Especially with that post.

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Nah, Nintendo has been great ever since then

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It wasnt my favourite games wise, but it was also the last gen where games were $50 and not $80+ so Im kind of torn.

Fuck modern games and the $30 spike. Complete joke.

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poll tied

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Swagnet0 posted...

poll tied

9-27 isn't tied

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Turbam posted...

9-27 isn't tied

whoops, misread that

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Swagnet0 posted...

whoops, misread that

It's all good, just make sure it doesn't happen again, SwagnetZero

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looks like I touched a nerve, lol. good

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Better than this gen for sure, but there have been some gems this gen that will stick with me. We are in the golden age of indies, and that isn't everyone's thing, but for someone like me, i'm having a blast with a lot of them.

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Tell me you are a boomer, without telling me you are a boomer.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Better than this gen for sure, but there have been some gems this gen that will stick with me for sure. We are in the golden age of indies, and that isn't everyone's thing, but for someone like me, i'm having a blast with a lot of them.

Indies are literally the only new games Ill buy because again, they dont cost $80. Im not sure who thought that after damn near 50 years of gaming that they had to triple the inflation, but that person should be beaten to within an inch of their life.

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https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.video/c/3GIus1FAb4Y

When I was a teenager, I was a video game addict on machines like the
Atari 2600 and Intellivision. Even though the games on both machines
were woefully primitive by today's standards, the selection of games
was pretty varied. You could get shoot-em-ups, maze games, sports
games, action/strategy games (Intellivision Sea Battle is probably the
best example of this type), pure strategy games like checkers/chess,
role-playing games, and original games based on far-out ideas, such as
Qix. I also owned an Atari 800, which played several games that were
showcases of creativity and good game design, Archon, M.U.L.E.,
Pinball Construction Set, Rescue on Fractalus, and Ballblazer are just
a few of the original, fun games available on that system.

I've noticed that there's now a standard set of terminology to
describe features of video games. "Power ups" and "bosses". All it
says to me is that most of the games on the market (at least the
Genesis) share so many common elements that you can give them names.
These video games are following a formula. Perhaps this is because
everybody is in a race to get titles on the market. But why do I want
to buy the same game all the time, only with different graphics?

YES YES YES YES YES! Finally, somebody can see through all of this
nonsense! Another thank you to Teh Kao Yang for similar comments.
First of all, I am NOT a Genesis hater or a Nintendo hater or a hater
of any video game manufacturer. I would also say that I am not a fan
of any such corporation either. I realize that many readers of
rec.games.video have violent loyalties to certain companies and that
their reaction to my comments will be clouded by such. You can be a
fan of a particular game or of a game designer or group of designers or
maybe a company that writes games. But to be a "fan" of a giant like
Sega or Nintendo? It's like being a fan of Proctor & Gamble or
DuPont. I have better things to do than spray paint "GENESIS RULES" on
a bridge.
It is also tempting to think that I'm just reminiscing about the Good
Ole Days when every game was a classic and everyone lived in harmonious
peace and tranqulity with the universe. But the fact is that there
WERE video games before the current wave of systems and you have a very
limited view of things if you were never exposed to them. There were
games for the Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Intellivision, ColecoVision,
Astrocade, Vectrex, Vic-20, Odyssey-2, Channel F, AdventureVision,
Commodore 64, Atari 8-bit computers, Apple II, and TI 99/4A. *LOTS* of
games. THOUSANDS of games. The Atari 2600 alone had several hundred
games for it. Plus, coin-op arcade games have been in production since
the early seventies, and hit a major peak from 1979 to 1982. All of
this before anyone heard the word "boss" or "power-up" or used a
conjugate of the verb "solve" in reference to a game by a company other
than Infocom.
During all of this time, video games never really "settled down."
Games were constanly changing in an effort to find a new audience.
Sure, a big-hit like Pac-Man would come along and spawn a quick splash
of clones, but unless a clone added some new feature, like the doors in
Mousetrap, it was quickly forgotten. After all, Pac-Man is a concept
more than it is graphics. Any other maze game full of things to eat
and energizers basically WAS Pac-Man. So game designers moved on to
different ideas.
From '80 to '82 there was Donkey Kong, Robotron, Xevious, Mr. Do,
Defender, Galaga, Carnival, Reactor, Missile Command, Zaxxon, Tempest,
Centipede, Qix, Crazy Climber, Dragon's Lair, Sinistar, Joust,
Kick-Man, Tron, etc--just look at the variety. Some general themes
would stick around for a few years, "cute games" for instance, and out
of that would come Pengo, Burger Time, Q-Bert, Food Fight, Frogger,
Domino Man, and so on. Being "cute" was about all they had in common.
Out of all of these thousands of games, the great majority of modern
home games are based on FOUR of them: Scramble (1981), Front Line
(1982), Karateka (1983), and Karate Champ (1984)--maybe Kung Fu Master
(1984) as well. This is completely ridiculous. Sure, these games were
great and fun and everything else, but this non-stop cloning is a
complete joke and has been for years. It's getting hard to
differentiate between individual games, the only things that that
change are the shape of the enemies, the bosses, the power-ups, and the
scenery. The game itself is still the same. You can play poker with a
different deck of cards, but it's still poker.
Of course, not ALL games for the Genesis are like this. But after
weeding through the Scramble clones and Front Line clones and Karateka
clones and so on, there's not much left. And what little there is
isn't very original and is usually attacked by the magazines for not
being shooters, so they don't sell as well, giving very little
incentive for future originality. To make things worse, a lot of the
"new ideas" may look completely different, but the underlying concept
is still "get to the end and 'win'."
It is easy to say that "there aren't any original ideas left," but this
is bunk. Atari Games still maintains that early-eighties will to
experiment, and each of their games reflects it. But for the most
part, the big game companies have everyone fooled into thinking that
there isn't anything other than shooters and RPGs so they'll keep
cranking 'em out and everyone will gobble them up so they'll make
more.
Another problem is that there are VERY few good game designers. Lots
of good programmers, but not designers. Just about all of Nintendo's
hits were designed by the same person. Designers used to first come up
with a game concept. Nowadays, they decide to write a shooter and then
concentrate on burning questions like "what power-ups should we have?"
You can put ANYTHING onto a CRT that you can possibly imagine. There
is no restriction saying that it has to be a bunch of junk that scrolls
to the left with a boss at the end. But if that's what you want, that's
what you'll get.

From 1991.

At least they did a better job actually presenting an argument.

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Swagnet0 posted...

looks like I touched a nerve, lol. good

You didn't touch shit SwagnetZero.
Your arms are too short to box with god

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bump

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Darmik posted...

There
is no restriction saying that it has to be a bunch of junk that scrolls
to the left with a boss at the end

That's actually a fair criticism. It's why the SNES cannot lay claim to the title of Nintendo's best console, as it was bloated with generic side scrolling trash that was just apeing Mario.

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I thought it was overall the worst generation in my lifetime. It has the least number games I would put on my list of favorites of any generation.

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...huh?

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PS4 >>>>>>>>> PS3

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Swagnet0 posted...

...huh?

I thought the PS3/360 era had the least number of games on any generation that I would put on a list of my favorites.

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Im still having a blast playing my PS4. Im currently playing DOOM 3 again. Thats from 2004 before the 360 days. Loving it.

The PS4/Xbox One era has been fantastic seeing the return of more survival horror games. The Evil Within 1/2, RE 2 Remake, RE 3 Remake, Outlast 1/2 etc...

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untouchable010 posted...

The PS4/Xbox One era has been fantastic seeing the return of more survival horror games. The Evil Within 1/2, RE 2 Remake, RE 3 Remake, Outlast 1/2 etc...

most of these are boring as hell to play.

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