Current Events > US fencer attending Olympics separate from rest of team due to sex assault case

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Antifar 07/24/21 9:50:40 AM #1:	https://twitter.com/kumaraishwarya/status/1418709503378345985 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:956413348] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/kumaraishwarya/status/1418709503378345985 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/24/21 5:44:23 PM #2:	Bump --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:956424939] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/24/21 5:45:38 PM #3:	It's useless for him to even be there since they'll take away his medal if he gets any --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956424978] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>It's useless for him to even be there since they'll take away his medal if he gets any </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelbuFrahma4 07/24/21 5:45:38 PM #4:	Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics. --- "We'll never see Day-Lewis and Kubrick, or Kurosawa and Eastwood, but we have seen Bale and Nolan, a cinematic dream pairing come to life!" <cite>MelbuFrahma4 posted [p:956424979] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/24/21 5:45:50 PM #5:	MelbuFrahma4 posted... Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics. IOC not Japan --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:956424986] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>MelbuFrahma4 posted... </cite> <quote>Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics.</quote>IOC not Japan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/24/21 5:48:48 PM #6:	At least he didn't smoke weed tho --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:956425061] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>At least he didn't smoke weed tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/24/21 5:49:43 PM #7:	MelbuFrahma4 posted... Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics. Technically, he is not that, if I read it correctly. Ive never thought about how the Olympics handles allegations prior to attendance, and here we are now. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:956425083] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>MelbuFrahma4 posted... </cite> <quote>Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics.</quote> Technically, he is not that, if I read it correctly. Ive never thought about how the Olympics handles allegations prior to attendance, and here we are now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/24/21 5:49:58 PM #8:	Smashingpmkns posted... At least he didn't smoke weed tho <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:956425096] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>At least he didn't smoke weed tho</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 07/24/21 11:40:06 PM #10:	Who selected him in the first place? Someone from the US or the IOC? <cite>PBusted posted [p:956433818] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Who selected him in the first place? Someone from the US or the IOC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabrestorm 07/24/21 11:43:56 PM #11:	He is under investigation, doesnt mean he did anything, why does everyone think accused means guilty? <cite>sabrestorm posted [p:956433890] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>He is under investigation, doesnt mean he did anything, why does everyone think accused means guilty? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/24/21 11:45:29 PM #12:	^ this is CE youre talking about PBusted posted... Who selected him in the first place? Someone from the US or the IOC? Hes a replacement, and won first place in some tournament to get that. I guess if someone gets hurt or cant go, then he goes. Lorenzo_2003 posted... Technically, he is not that, if I read it correctly. Youre correct. And seem to be one of 3 of us that did read it. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956433918] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>^ this is CE youre talking about PBusted posted... </cite> <quote>Who selected him in the first place? Someone from the US or the IOC?</quote>Hes a replacement, and won first place in some tournament to get that. I guess if someone gets hurt or cant go, then he goes. Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>Technically, he is not that, if I read it correctly.</quote>Youre correct. And seem to be one of 3 of us that did read it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/25/21 12:22:44 AM #13:	sabrestorm posted... He is under investigation, doesnt mean he did anything, why does everyone think accused means guilty? Because he's been suspended and kicked off his college fencing team for the same behavior. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956434766] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>sabrestorm posted... </cite> <quote>He is under investigation, doesnt mean he did anything, why does everyone think accused means guilty?</quote>Because he's been suspended and kicked off his college fencing team for the same behavior. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/25/21 12:26:16 AM #15:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Youre correct. And seem to be one of 3 of us that did read it. Idk - being suspended from his college and kicked off the fencing team for sexual assault (in the article) paints a pretty clear picture of him being a sexual offender, especially when he violated the terms of his suspension. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956434849] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote> Youre correct. And seem to be one of 3 of us that did read it.</quote>Idk - being suspended from his college and kicked off the fencing team for sexual assault (in the article) paints a pretty clear picture of him being a sexual offender, especially when he violated the terms of his suspension. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/25/21 12:28:40 AM #16:	"the entire roster of Team USA fencers signed a letter demanding the restriction stay in place" Good. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:956434905] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>"the entire roster of Team USA fencers signed a letter demanding the restriction stay in place" Good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/25/21 12:29:25 AM #17:	metallica846 posted... Was he convicted? He was suspended from his college (Columbia) for a year, expelled from the fencing team, and was not to have further contact with the fencers. If I'm reading the article correctly he violated the last part by going to different universities where the players would be at fencing gatherings/ parties. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956434918] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>Was he convicted?</quote> He was suspended from his college (Columbia) for a year, expelled from the fencing team, and was not to have further contact with the fencers. If I'm reading the article correctly he violated the last part by going to different universities where the players would be at fencing gatherings/ parties. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/25/21 12:29:34 AM #18:	It's insane that he's still allowed to compete. We don't need gold badly enough to allow rapists to compete. And, as others have stated, they'll strip him of any medals he wins anyway. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:956434921] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>It's insane that he's still allowed to compete. We don't need gold badly enough to allow rapists to compete. And, as others have stated, they'll strip him of any medals he wins anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/25/21 12:33:35 AM #19:	So this guy's a backup? Let's hope nobody gets sick or hurt. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:956435019] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>So this guy's a backup? Let's hope nobody gets sick or hurt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/25/21 12:44:08 AM #20:	Ruvan22 posted... Idk - being suspended from his college and kicked off the fencing team for sexual assault (in the article) paints a pretty clear picture of him being a sexual offender, especially when he violated the terms of his suspension. documents obtained by BuzzFeed News, show a pattern of alleged sexual misconduct and violent behavior going back to 2010 when he was a first-year student at Columbia University. You referring to that? So Ill just ask this one thing [LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956435280] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Idk - being suspended from his college and kicked off the fencing team for sexual assault (in the article) paints a pretty clear picture of him being a sexual offender, especially when he violated the terms of his suspension.</quote> documents obtained by BuzzFeed News, show a pattern of alleged sexual misconduct and violent behavior going back to 2010 when he was a first-year student at Columbia University. You referring to that? So Ill just ask this one thing <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Simp3 07/25/21 1:23:42 AM #21:	i bet the fucker isn't even vaccinated. <cite>Simp3 posted [p:956436046] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>i bet the fucker isn't even vaccinated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 07/25/21 6:49:27 AM #22:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Hes a replacement, and won first place in some tournament to get that. I guess if someone gets hurt or cant go, then he goes. I see Interesting. I guess they don't screen for the winners? <cite>PBusted posted [p:956439989] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>Hes a replacement, and won first place in some tournament to get that. I guess if someone gets hurt or cant go, then he goes.</quote>I see Interesting. I guess they don't screen for the winners? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/25/21 7:07:20 AM #23:	Y'know given how many false convictions there are in our justice system, I find it odd that certain people on this board think "was he convicted" is enough for them, and in fact the ONLY metric. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:956440153] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Y'know given how many false convictions there are in our justice system, I find it odd that certain people on this board think "was he convicted" is enough for them, and in fact the ONLY metric. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai 07/25/21 8:27:59 AM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's useless for him to even be there since they'll take away his medal if he gets any This Unless he just wants a free trip to Tokyo, why bother? --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:956441067] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>It's useless for him to even be there since they'll take away his medal if he gets any</quote> This Unless he just wants a free trip to Tokyo, why bother? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The X Dawg 07/25/21 9:12:13 AM #25:	What's with Columbia students and sexually assaulting women and having little to no repercussions? <cite>The X Dawg posted [p:956441717] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>What's with Columbia students and sexually assaulting women and having little to no repercussions? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/25/21 10:41:40 AM #27:	DuranOfForcena posted... uhh i think it's mostly the fact that he's been under investigation for the same thing before and kicked off his college team for it, and also the fact that historically speaking, ivy league college athletics tend to have a "boy's club" sort of culture where behavior like this is usually downplayed or shrugged off, and people like him tend to not be forced to face any real consequences for their actions. Oh absolutely. I'm right with you there. I just found some people in this topic who will decide that such things aren't worth believing, and that very specifically a conviction is required before deducing he's a bad actor who shouldn't be considered a good representative of his nation in a global games. Like a conviction is some kind of magical switch that makes him guilty by fact. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:956443314] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>uhh i think it's mostly the fact that he's been under investigation for the same thing before and kicked off his college team for it, and also the fact that historically speaking, ivy league college athletics tend to have a "boy's club" sort of culture where behavior like this is usually downplayed or shrugged off, and people like him tend to not be forced to face any real consequences for their actions.</quote>Oh absolutely. I'm right with you there. I just found some people in this topic who will decide that such things aren't worth believing, and that very specifically a conviction is required before deducing he's a bad actor who shouldn't be considered a good representative of his nation in a global games. Like a conviction is some kind of magical switch that makes him guilty by fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cuticrusader09 07/25/21 10:45:20 AM #29:	The X Dawg posted... What's with Columbia students and sexually assaulting women and having little to no repercussions? Having $$ --- AC - Violet on Penny. (N), Rose on Sapphire (S) <cite>Cuticrusader09 posted [p:956443390] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>The X Dawg posted...</cite> <quote>What's with Columbia students and sexually assaulting women and having little to no repercussions? </quote> Having $$</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 07/25/21 11:08:41 AM #31:	ImAMarvel posted... For real Ehh, its not really the same and I think about weed being legalized every day and think its a joke people get in trouble for it. But someone having accusations against them isnt really the same as someone having proof of them breaking a rule/law. This whole thing though is very common in sports and happens yearly. Someone does something bad, the school or team says were deeply saddened by the events that happened and will start our research on finding out what happened and in the meantime the player will not be allowed to practice/play in games/be in the facility/etc. until we have confidently found out the truth. Him being suspended and what not in no way shows hes guilty. And if it does, well then theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956443918] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>ImAMarvel posted... </cite> <quote>For real</quote>Ehh, its not really the same and I think about weed being legalized every day and think its a joke people get in trouble for it. But someone having accusations against them isnt really the same as someone having proof of them breaking a rule/law. This whole thing though is very common in sports and happens yearly. Someone does something bad, the school or team says were deeply saddened by the events that happened and will start our research on finding out what happened and in the meantime the player will not be allowed to practice/play in games/be in the facility/etc. until we have confidently found out the truth. Him being suspended and what not in no way shows hes guilty. And if it does, well then theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/25/21 12:05:32 PM #32:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues. Well I'm at least glad we're in agreement there. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:956445261] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues.</quote>Well I'm at least glad we're in agreement there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/25/21 12:06:51 PM #33:	If the guy has to be kept away from other women maybe you shouldn't let him on the team. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:956445302] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>If the guy has to be kept away from other women maybe you shouldn't let him on the team. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/25/21 12:16:24 PM #34:	MelbuFrahma4 posted... Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics. I guess Japan could have denied him entry into the country, but it doesn't appear he has been convicted yet. A sexual assault is usually grounds to deny entry though. Still, probably would have been best if the U.S. just kept him off the team. Not sure how anything good comes out of bringing him to Tokyo. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. <cite>brestugo posted [p:956445526] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>MelbuFrahma4 posted... </cite> <quote>Why is Japan alright with a sex offender being at the Olympics.</quote>I guess Japan could have denied him entry into the country, but it doesn't appear he has been convicted yet. A sexual assault is usually grounds to deny entry though. Still, probably would have been best if the U.S. just kept him off the team. Not sure how anything good comes out of bringing him to Tokyo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 07/25/21 12:17:55 PM #35:	ScazarMeltex posted... If the guy has to be kept away from other women maybe you shouldn't let him on the team. But that would crush his dreams and hurt his feelings. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:956445561] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>If the guy has to be kept away from other women maybe you shouldn't let him on the team.</quote>But that would crush his dreams and hurt his feelings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/25/21 4:03:09 PM #36:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Ehh, its not really the same and I think about weed being legalized every day and think its a joke people get in trouble for it. But someone having accusations against them isnt really the same as someone having proof of them breaking a rule/law. This whole thing though is very common in sports and happens yearly. Someone does something bad, the school or team says were deeply saddened by the events that happened and will start our research on finding out what happened and in the meantime the player will not be allowed to practice/play in games/be in the facility/etc. until we have confidently found out the truth. Him being suspended and what not in no way shows hes guilty. And if it does, well then theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues. Errr... why wouldn't him being suspended AND removed from the fencing team show guilt/proof of the bad behavior in question? And yes there's likely lots of athletes and other staff that have deserve consequences for their actions- that's the whole reason the SafeSport commission was created (even if it's not actually doing much). You keep asking is he was convicted- by whom? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956451817] in US fencer ... [t:79580668]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>Ehh, its not really the same and I think about weed being legalized every day and think its a joke people get in trouble for it. But someone having accusations against them isnt really the same as someone having proof of them breaking a rule/law. This whole thing though is very common in sports and happens yearly. Someone does something bad, the school or team says were deeply saddened by the events that happened and will start our research on finding out what happened and in the meantime the player will not be allowed to practice/play in games/be in the facility/etc. until we have confidently found out the truth. Him being suspended and what not in no way shows hes guilty. And if it does, well then theres a shit ton of athletes across all sports that need to be banned from their leagues.</quote> Errr... why wouldn't him being suspended AND removed from the fencing team show guilt/proof of the bad behavior in question? And yes there's likely lots of athletes and other staff that have deserve consequences for their actions- that's the whole reason the SafeSport commission was created (even if it's not actually doing much). You keep asking is he was convicted- by whom? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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