Current Events > Calling it, "new Cod" 2021= Trash. Warzone will be still most played

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Next few weeks will be the reveal of a WW2 COD.....it will be hated and gamers will just go back to

MW-WARZONE for another year.

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Cold war is just ramping up though.

They release these game too fast.

Also, ffs transfer over blueprints from game to game already cod making people. If you can churn out a new game in a year or two no problem, you can make a fucking gun database that atleast spans 2 or 3 games ffs. People will still keep buying them even if you only don't do all of them from all games.

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itachi15243 posted...

Cold war is just ramping up though.

They release these game too fast.

Also, ffs transfer over blueprints from game to game already cod making people. If you can churn out a new game in a year or two no problem, you can make a fucking gun database that atleast spans 2 or 3 games ffs. People will still keep buying them even if you only don't do all of them from all games.

The issue with the guns is that the games are developed on different iterations of their game engines that don't allow the direct port-over of guns from one to another. The different games are using different equations and variables for how damage, recoil, sighting, and handling are worked. Even just the gun models and animations need to be re-done or touched up. Porting one gun to another is pretty similar in work flow to... Just designing and making a new gun.

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6v6 Call of Duty is dead

Hardly anyone plays it anymore and it doesn't get the attention it deserves from developers

Call of Duty used to release with over a dozen 6v6 maps at launch, MW2 had 16 at release I think, nowadays it takes an entire year of post-release content to hit that number

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The rumors are that there will be a new pacific themed Warzone map

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The problem is that WarZone is complete trash and not worth the time

Warzone is really poorly optimized. Cant run it with a 1060 lol

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I'm ngl I'm probably buying the next CoD unless it is true garbage

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

I hope it's an actual new full map and not just like Rebirth

Rebirth is great, but I want a new map

The problem with rebirth is that I played tf out of the Alcatraz map on blackout which is almost exactly the same

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

oh I didnt play much blackout because it sucked hard so I didnt know that

At least it wasn't full of hackers

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Yes.. Warzone may be trash atm and infested with hackers, but sadly many STILL play it especially streamers. The streamers are basically promoting the game every single day and most are not even playing black ops CW and MW2019 standard multiplayer.

I feel that this new COD sales will be lower, WZ will loose lots of players but still the most playable this year, and Battlefield 2042 will be the FPS of the year.

Imo, Warzone itself is killing the COD franchise and even COD pros are worried too.

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BF2042 will put COD to shame

Warzone will still operate at a similar capacity because BRs still are fun on occasion

New COD this year will literally lose money

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PatrickMahomes posted...

BF2042 will put COD to shame

BF 2042 will likely be a disappointment like every other BF game since Bad Company 2

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yemmy posted...

BF 2042 will likely be a disappointment like every other BF game since Bad Company 2

what the hell kind of take is this

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Activision killed the golden goose with how they've treated Warzone. It was on track to completely dominate the BR genre.

The unbalanced gun meta, the army of bots and cheats, the stale, inconsistent artstyle and map, the plethora of QoL changes needed, the confusing menus, and above all the complete lack of optimization have really killed the game.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

what the hell kind of take is this

If BF wasn't a jank CoD then people would actually buy it.

Tell me more about your input lag and shitty hit detection

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

spitting facts

Battlefield 1 was one of the biggest letdowns of the decade.

What? It was easily one of the best shooters of the last generation and it was also probably DICE's best selling game of all time.

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I've tried Battlefield several times, and I just hate it.

I still play Modern Warfare 2019, never bothered picking up Black Ops 2020.

I enjoyed Warzone but I stopped enjoying it less when they started incorporating stuff fromBlack Ops into it.

It's odd that they are skipping the MW 19 sequel for a WWII centered game. MW 19 felt like it got people excited to play COD again.


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XxKrazyChaosxX posted...

I still play Modern Warfare 2019, never bothered picking up Black Ops 2020.

I enjoyed Warzone but I stopped enjoying it less when they started incorporating stuff fromBlack Ops into it.

It's odd that they are skipping the MW 19 sequel for a WWII centered game. MW 19 felt like it got people excited to play COD again.

MW2 is probably the 2022 CoD. It's a three studio rotation now, this is the sledge hammer game.

I also theorize that MW2 will launch WZ2, but I'm not sure.

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Jabodie posted...

MW2 is probably the 2022 CoD. It's a three studio rotation now, this is the sledge hammer game.

I also theorize that MW2 will launch WZ2, but I'm not sure.

Ahh. I forgot it was on a three studio rotation now, I thought it was still just the two.

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Yeah if they are going with this games as a service shit, they need to stop releasing a new one every year, full stop.

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

its fucking garbage, its not a World War I game at all, its a World War II game with different hats.

ive been begging for a AAA WWI shooter since 2010 and having that be the first real offering was a kick in the teeth. It fucking sucked.

I mean, you can complain about your expectations all you want, but a "True to form" WWI game would be eviscerated by the player base DICE has accumulated over the years. 98% of the game would be bolt-action rifles and artillery. Splash in some pistols, grenades, and a couple machine guns per side.

Fact of the matter is, "Mid-Late Western Front" combat does not appeal to the average player. They did what they could with the source material to provide some theme to the game while also ensuring a variety of styles of gameplay were still supported. It was a good compromise, especially after playing games like Verdun where the design really starts to show the limitation of the traditional idea of "WWI Combat". I liked Verdun, but it's not a highly appealing design.

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Battlefield just needs to expand on BF4 with a lot of guns, a lot of awesome customization of them and fun and diverse maps. BF1 and 5 had absolute garbage guns and customization of them, and the maps often devolved into just a mess of brown or green or white with just rocks and other terrain to hide in.

Seriously, the lack of being able to tweak my guns was such a huge loss. BF4 I have no shortage of tools and gadgets and attachments to play with the plethora of guns. BF1 felt like a huge huge huge step backwards.

Frontline mode is sick, though.

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

spitting facts

Battlefield 1 was one of the biggest letdowns of the decade.

i didnt like BF1 but saying BF3 and 4 were disappointments is just false

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Kaldrenthebold posted...

Battlefield just needs to expand on BF4 with a lot of guns, a lot of awesome customization of them and fun and diverse maps. BF1 and 5 had absolute garbage guns and customization of them, and the maps often devolved into just a mess of brown or green or white with just rocks and other terrain to hide in.

Seriously, the lack of being able to tweak my guns was such a huge loss. BF4 I have no shortage of tools and gadgets and attachments to play with the plethora of guns. BF1 felt like a huge huge huge step backwards.

Frontline mode is sick, though.

I'm basically hoping for the same thing, a new and improved battlefield 4 experience. I think many people are and I think dice knows this, we will see what happens though.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

i didnt like BF1 but saying BF3 and 4 were disappointments is just false

I loved bad company 2, I enjoyed the change of pace with the more linear map design that created more fast paced combat. I agree saying nothing has been great since then is extreme. Although battlefield 3 wasn't great it was solid, 4 was fantastic though. I respect what they were trying to do with 1 and 5 somewhat but I couldn't get into them at all. I'm really hoping I enjoy this one and it has some staying power for me.

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mD_atheist posted...

I loved bad company 2, I enjoyed the change of pace with the more linear map design that created more fast paced combat. I agree saying nothing has been great since then is extreme. Although battlefield 3 wasn't great it was solid, 4 was fantastic though. I respect what they were trying to do with 1 and 5 somewhat but I couldn't get into them at all. I'm really hoping I enjoy this one and it has some staying power for me.

I think this is why COD still will always have a place in the shooter space. BF IMO is at its best with it's long, expanded conquest/rush games. There are times when it's intense but there are also some downtimes when you've got no one to spawn in on and no good objective to spawn on.

But sometimes, you want to jump into a quick 12 minute constant brawl of firefights, and that's where COD comes in.

Not saying one style is better than the other by any means, but it goes to show how both should exist.

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mD_atheist posted...

I'm basically hoping for the same thing, a new and improved battlefield 4 experience. I think many people are and I think dice knows this, we will see what happens though.

I was hoping after BF1 they would have heard it, but turns out it wasn't until BF5 was poorly received that they (hopefully) went back. Seeing the "jump-out-of-the-jet-and-blow-up-another" gives me hope that it will have the crazy "Battlefield moments" I feel like I've been missing for years.

Also I want to say. Bad Company 2 is probably my most favorite online shooter. I absolutely adore that game.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

i didnt like BF1 but saying BF3 and 4 were disappointments is just false

Tell me more about taking hundreds of hours to unlock everything unless you pay for class shortcuts.

Every time a new BF game is about to come out there is always a horde of people saying "this one is gonna kill CoD!!" But yet only sells a fraction of the amount that CoD does.

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yemmy posted...

Tell me more about taking hundreds of hours to unlock everything unless you pay for class shortcuts.

Every time a new BF game is about to come out there is always a horde of people saying "this one is gonna kill CoD!!" But yet only sells a fraction of the amount that CoD does.

I've never agreed with pay2win stuff, but let's be real, nobody was going for the sole purpose of "unlocking everything." I played a shit ton and stuff just kinda unlocked stuff over time without ever once feeling "grindy."

The gameplay itself is all I care about.

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In fairness I ignore the campaigns so I can't speak to that. But the multiplayers were all I cared about and they were phenominal.

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ArianaGrandSlam posted...

spitting facts

Battlefield 1 was one of the biggest letdowns of the decade.

Lmao

completely disagree. heck... imo as a "battlefield pro", BF1 is probably by far the best BF game on last gen alone. BF4 was too buggy and never got an enhancement update, Hardline was heavily hated on, and BFV.... well.. being BFV.

my personally rankings on last gen

1. BF1
2. BF4
3. Hardline (yes.. this game is actually fun).
4. BFV

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BOCW is so bleh. The gameplay feels so outdated compared to MW 2019's.

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Warzone is the peak. Like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the peak.

and GTA V.

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