Current Events > Two more Texas House Democrats test positive for Covid-19 in Washington

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/politics/texas-house-democrats-covid-19/index.html

Two more Texas state House Democrats who traveled to Washington, DC, last week have tested positive for Covid-19, the Texas House Democratic Caucus said in a statement Sunday evening, bringing the total number of infected legislators to five. The lawmakers are part of the group that left Texas, flying from Austin to Washington to break the state House's quorum and block Republicans from passing a restrictive new voting law. The caucus had decided to undergo rapid Covid-19 tests after the initial positive tests, according to the statement, which said the two additional infected members were fully vaccinated and that "all of the HDC Members who tested positive are feeling good, with no symptoms or only mild symptoms."

Fully vaccinated people who have been exposed to Covid-19 but are not showing symptoms do not need to quarantine or get tested for the virus following their exposure, according to current CDC guidance, unless they are in a correctional or detention facility or a homeless shelter. While in Washington, members of the Texas House Democratic Caucus met with Vice President Kamala Harris, as well as with members of Congress, including Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin.

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don't mess with texas

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Glad they're only seeing mild symptoms.

I'm guessing they're all vaccinated, and that will keep their symptoms low.

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Maybe they should have wore facemasks when boarding their private jet.

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i dont care about asymptomatic breakthrough cases tbh

headlines like this just give more fuel to the anti vaxxers to say the vaccines dont even work (even though theyre extremely effective at preventing serious illness)

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One is too many

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GregShmedley posted...

You do realize you can still spread it, right? And you do realize there are millions of kids who are either too young to get vaccinated or their shitty parents won't get them vaccinated, right?

Point being, you can still catch it and spread despite being fully vaccinated and there are millions of people who you can still give it to. I sincerely hope you start rethinking your selfish mindset.

Kids are still extremely unlikely to have serious illness/death from covid

as of July 8th (last number I could find) 335 kids have died from covid, total. For comparison 577 kids died from the flu in the 2018-2019 season

for further comparisons sake over 1500 kids died in 2019 due to car accidents

death is unfortunate of course but at this point the most vulnerable (aka, adults and immunocompromised, barring the extremely small category of kids under 12 who are immunocompromised) have had ample time to choose to get vaccinated

obviously its all a fluctuating situation and theres a lot of gray area and Im not going to fault people for still wanting to be cautious, but I personally am not going to feel responsible for anything bad that happens to others at this point when its largely shit head anti vaxxers who got us in the current position

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Kids are still extremely unlikely to have serious illness/death from covid

as of July 8th (last number I could find) 335 kids have died from covid, total. For comparison 577 kids died from the flu in the 2018-2019 season

for further comparisons sake over 1500 kids died in 2019 due to car accidents

death is unfortunate of course but at this point the most vulnerable (aka, adults and immunocompromised, barring the extremely small category of kids under 12 who are immunocompromised) have had ample time to choose to get vaccinated

obviously its all a fluctuating situation and theres a lot of gray area and Im not going to fault people for still wanting to be cautious, but I personally am not going to feel responsible for anything bad that happens to others at this point when its largely shit head anti vaxxers who got us in the current position

its only 335 kids you know? No big deal? Not like we couldve prevented it by being considerate human beings. Nope, oh well.

/s

this post and all posts not giving a shit about unvaccinated children need to go look in the mirror and ask yourselves if your a good person, because news flash youre despicable.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

i dont care about asymptomatic breakthrough cases tbh

headlines like this just give more fuel to the anti vaxxers to say the vaccines dont even work (even though theyre extremely effective at preventing serious illness)

100% this. 97% of the folks who are hospitalized now are the unvaccinated. Really, at this point in time, this is a pandemic for that specific group of people.

Come talk to me if/when the fully vaccinated become hospitalized and start dying.

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Barber102 posted...

its only 335 kids you know? No big deal? Not like we couldve prevented it by being considerate human beings. Nope, oh well.

/s

this post and all posts not giving a shit about unvaccinated children need to go look in the mirror and ask yourselves if your a good person, because news flash youre despicable.

As a society weve deemed that a few hundred deaths is not crisis level though. Obviously its terrible but there are lots and lots of things that cause a few hundred deaths among children each year that we dont shut down the country for

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Didn't the UK release a study that showed the risk of Covid to children was a .0002% chance of death? And hospitalization was at an extremely low level also?

So why would they need to be protected from vaccinated people?

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TheGoldenEel posted...

As a society weve deemed that a few hundred deaths is not crisis level though. Obviously its terrible but there are lots and lots of things that cause a few hundred deaths among children each year that we dont shut down the country for

wrong. It isnt just about the ones that are dead, it is also about the ones who have to live with permanent organ damage because they contracted again.

society didnt deem anything, that is a terrible excuse.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Kids are still extremely unlikely to have serious illness/death from covid

we don't know what kind of long term effects it can have on them, and with schools irresponsibly opening back up those numbers could very well increase..Not to mention kids can still spread it and they don't tend to be the most aware or cleanest. It'll just make the spread worse overall.

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GregShmedley posted...

"Death is unfortunate, but Buffalo Wild Wings is life." - TheGoldenEel

Well, there it is. Your complacency over COVID is making you spew right wing talking points...

Idk dude its not black and white.

to be clear, 600,000 adults dying in a year is a crisis

trying to move goalposts to what about the kids when for the most part we as a society had agreed that kids just werent vulnerable to the virus just rings hollow to me

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Barber102 posted...

wrong. It isnt just about the ones that are dead, it is also about the ones who have to live with permanent organ damage because they contracted again.

Source on how many kids are living with permanent organ damage due to covid?

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learning to accept unpreventable death is necessary. learning to accept preventable death is monstrous.

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Medussa posted...

learning to accept unpreventable death is necessary. learning to accept preventable death is monstrous.

If we lived life in quarantine all transmittable disease is preventable

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no, I just dont think a virus that has killed 335 out of over 4 million infected (a .008% death rate), is statistically a deadly virus

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TheGoldenEel posted...

If we lived life in quarantine all transmittable disease is preventable

we weren't being asked to live the rest of our natural lives in quarantine. we were just asked to take some temporary precautions right now. it wasn't going to last forever. Its like saying "Man, we can't live in fear of AIDs, it only kills a few people. Fuck Condoms, if i get aids i get aids!"...That's just a stupid mentality and its one we've for some reason allowed to persist with Covid.

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

100% this. 97% of the folks who are hospitalized now are the unvaccinated. Really, at this point in time, this is a pandemic for that specific group of people.

Come talk to me if/when the fully vaccinated become hospitalized and start dying.

This America is open.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

no, I just dont think a virus that has killed 335 out of over 4 million infected (a .008% death rate), is statistically a deadly virus

well its a good thing we listen to actual smart scientists and not your opinion, then.

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Eh I'll continue to wear my mask until this shit is done. And if it's never done I'll just continue to wear my mask.

This older lady I know has MS and her doctors said they're unsure if the vaccine will protect her fully. She works at a casino as a masseuse, her coworkers are openly anti vax, and the casino removed all masking rules. It's not her fault she's immunocompromised and it's hardly an inconvenience on my end to possibly prevent someone's death.
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They were idiots to get on a flight unmasked. This isn't @ political issue this a medical issue. You did something stupid.

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VipaGTS posted...

it wasn't going to last forever.

turns out "it's only the flu" wasn't dismissing it as insignificant, but a warning that they had no intention of doing what was necessary to eradicate it.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Kids are still extremely unlikely to have serious illness/death from covid

There are long term / permanent side effects from covid. Death isn't the only metric that matters. Lots of kids may have wanted to do things like become athletes and will no longer be able to do so because their lungs are permanently fucked.

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VipaGTS posted...

we weren't being asked to live the rest of our natural lives in quarantine. we were just asked to take some temporary precautions right now. it wasn't going to last forever. Its like saying "Man, we can't live in fear of AIDs, it only kills a few people. Fuck Condoms, if i get aids i get aids!"...That's just a stupid mentality and its one we've for some reason allowed to persist with Covid.

Okay, but at this point (in the US) the people that need protecting are protected if they have chosen to be

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What if we have hit the covid vaccine ceiling? What if we will never even reach 65% fully vaccinated in the country because there are too many anti vax morons? What then?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

There are long term / permanent side effects from covid. Death isn't the only metric that matters. Lots of kids may have wanted to do things like become athletes and will no longer be able to do so because their lungs are permanently fucked.

Source please

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Okay, but at this point (in the US) the people that need protecting are protected if they have chosen to be

what does this even mean? "if they have chosen to be"...people who need to be protected can still be hurt by those who are not "choosing" to be safe. just because its getting better doesn't mean we're out of the woods. there are still people dying, but those people don't mean shit to you because the number isn't at some arbitrary level that you've pulled out of your ass.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Source please

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-long-haulers-long-term-effects-of-covid19

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Source please

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

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Antifar posted...

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-long-haulers-long-term-effects-of-covid19

Im aware of covid long haulers

what are the numbers for children though

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Im aware of covid long haulers

what are the numbers for children though

I can't find any statistics. I see a lot of testimonials but that doesn't mean anything in a pandemic that has infected millions.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Im aware of covid long haulers

what are the numbers for children though

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/

Evidence from the first study of long covid in children suggests that more than half of children aged between 6 and 16 years old who contract the virus have at least one symptom lasting more than 120 days, with 42.6 per cent impaired by these symptoms during daily activities. These interim results are based on periodic assessments of 129 children in Italy who were diagnosed with covid-19 between March and November 2020 at the Gemelli University Hospital in Rome (medRxiv, doi.org/fv9t).

The UK Office for National Statistics's latest report estimates that 12.9 per cent of UK children aged 2 to 11, and 14.5 per cent of children aged 12 to 16, still have symptoms five weeks after their first infection. Almost 500,000 UK children have tested positive for covid-19 since March 2020.

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GregShmedley posted...

Listen to yourself. Why do you care? Will it change your thinking? Will you reconsider? You've already shown your true colors, dude. You simply don't care about other people as far as COVID goes and that's that.

You need to do some self reflecting. Godspeed.

Did you feel bad about spreading the flu to kids potentially for years?

I hate using the flu argument because it was used by disingenuous people in the beginning of the pandemic for far too long, but the numbers for the flu at ages 1-17 ARE comparable, and the flu statistically kills MORE in that age range on a yearly basis


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Antifar posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/

This is long term symptoms of any kind, not permanent organ damage

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TheGoldenEel posted...

This is long term symptoms of any kind, not permanent organ damage

why are you moving the goal posts? there are long term symptoms not comparable to the Flu. And the disease is still new and mutating. we don't know what's going to happen 10 years from now with it. why take the risk when we can avoid it now? It'll only take a little while longer as opposed to potentially years of long term effects.

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VipaGTS posted...

why are you moving the goal posts? there are long term symptoms not comparable to the Flu. And the disease is still new and mutating. we don't know what's going to happen 10 years from now with it. why take the risk when we can avoid it now? It'll only take a little while longer as opposed to potentially years of long term effects.

this was the question that was asked

TheGoldenEel posted...

Source on how many kids are living with permanent organ damage due to covid?

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GregShmedley posted...

Wait, what makes you think you aren't using a flu comparison disingenuously here? I mean...are we joking right now?

Can you please respond as though I was being completely serious with my question (because I was)

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TheGoldenEel posted...

this was the question that was asked

So then i'll change my question...why are you setting the bar so high? If its just long term effects and not permanent organ damage its ok? If we can avoid both why not do it now? Your thought process is "well, we don't know, nothing has happened now so we'll just worry about it later if it does"...which, i'm sorry, is just a really stupid way to live. should we just throw self driving cars out there full on right now and worry about the kinks later, or should we wait until we get it right?

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