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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 12:51:27 PM
#102:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Imagine being so high off your own fumes that you get called out daily by nearly everyone in a given topic

oh no I'm getting called out by people who don't know what the Korean War was lmao
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ThePusher
07/19/21 12:51:29 PM
#103:


QueenCarly posted...
Dude is showing his whole bare ass today

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 12:52:55 PM
#104:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
oh no I'm getting called out by people who don't know what the Korean War was lmao

You're getting called out for deepsliding into right-wing style American exceptionalism and not even realizing it lmao

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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 12:54:28 PM
#105:


Funny how the guy who screams "Horseshoe Theory!" often finds himself on the same side as far right shit posters lol
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legendary_zell
07/19/21 12:56:22 PM
#106:


I get zero percent of my opinions from the Kremlin. I get almost all of my information from NPR and other American public radio stations with the remainder from mainstream American sources like WaPo, NYT, Vox etc. The fact that you've repeatedly made that accusation is proof that your world view is so narrow that you can't imagine that anyone would disagree with being propagandized.


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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 12:56:41 PM
#107:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
You're getting called out for deepsliding into right-wing style American exceptionalism and not even realizing it lmao

and we're back to the straw man arguments.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Funny how the guy who screams "Horseshoe Theory!" often finds himself on the same side as far right shit posters lol

You spent months calling Biden a senile rapist who wouldn't handle the pandemic better than Trump did, please don't talk to me about the horseshoe theory
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 12:58:19 PM
#108:


Broseph_Stalin posted...


and we're back to the straw man arguments.

You can't call it a straw man when we have your actual posts in this topic lmao

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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:00:45 PM
#109:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
wouldn't handle the pandemic better than Trump did

No I didn't. But continue going mask off.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:01:54 PM
#110:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
You spent months calling Biden a senile rapist who wouldn't handle the pandemic better than Trump did, please don't talk to me about the horseshoe theory

And you spent months accusing everyone left of Joe Biden of being a socialist/communist lmao

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:08:42 PM
#111:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
And you spent months accusing everyone left of Joe Biden of being a socialist/communist lmao

name one.

Smashingpmkns posted...
No I didn't. But continue going mask off.

lol oh right it was "slightly better", my bad. and I like how you don't even try to deny the rapist shit
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UnholyMudcrab
07/19/21 1:09:09 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:11:09 PM
#113:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
name one.

I'm not about to go back to posts from around election time just so you can play dumb about it.


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Prismsblade
07/19/21 1:11:49 PM
#114:


averagejoel posted...
it's not clear that the world would be a better place right now if the US didn't exist. it is extremely clear that the existence of the US' foreign policy has not been a net positive for the vast majority of the world
It's incredibly unlikely in all honest. The rest of the world had hundreds of years to get their shit together before the US entered the world stage. But they failed. Hard.

We on the other hand brought the opportunity for peace, innovation, wealth and QoL improvements to the world unheard throughout all of human history. Everyones lives are objectively better.

All of this within a relatively sort period of time.

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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:13:12 PM
#115:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
lol oh right it was "slightly better", my bad. and I like how you don't even try to deny the rapist shit

Never said that either. All I ever said was Trump probably wouldnt have lost if he didn't royally fuck up the coronavirus.

And:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers
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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:14:38 PM
#116:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
He literally said he didn't say that. What are you talking about lmao

No I'll own up to believing Tara Reade and the other women that accused Biden because believing these accusations while proper investigations are (or should have been) taking place is an appropriate stance to have.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:15:38 PM
#117:


Smashingpmkns posted...
No I'll own up to believing Tara Reade and the other women that accused Biden because believing these accusations while proper investigations are (or should have been) taking place is an appropriate stance to have.

Yeah I misread your post which is why I deleted the original message.

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:17:12 PM
#118:


Prismsblade posted...
The rest of the world had hundreds of years to get their shit together before the US entered the world stage. But they failed. Hard.

IDK, seems like there's quite a few countries doing much better than the U.S. right now when it comes to QoL.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:21:59 PM
#119:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I'm not about to go back to posts from around election time just so you can play dumb about it.

Damn we went from "everyone" to "I can't think of a single example" REAL quick.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Never said that either.

Nah you definitely said he wouldn't be much better than Trump. It's not like it was the only bad prediction you made back then lol
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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:25:03 PM
#120:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Nah you definitely said he wouldn't be much better than Trump.

Definitely didn't. Unlike you I'm pretty good at owning up to my words even when I'm wrong. Like how you defended Pinochet but continue to deny it lmao

"Horseshoe Theory" expert.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:26:09 PM
#121:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Damn we went from "everyone" to "I can't think of a single example" REAL quick.

I don't know, do you want me to compile a list?

You act like we don't know your posting history and that you don't get called out for parroting right-wing talking points daily.

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ThyCorndog
07/19/21 1:26:52 PM
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a lot of these are coups, maybe even most. but the list is slightly misleading just based on the yugoslavia one. I have secondhand experience for that one through family (my family are albanians from yugoslavia) and the US intervention there was to prevent ethnic cleansing. I can guarantee you that albanians in general were very happy that someone came to help

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:36:41 PM
#123:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Nah you definitely said he wouldn't be much better than Trump. It's not like it was the only bad prediction you made back then lol

Smashingpmkns posted...
Definitely didn't. Unlike you I'm pretty good at owning up to my words even when I'm wrong.


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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:40:38 PM
#124:


Okay guess I said Biden would be better lol either way, criticizing a candidate during election season while everyone is saying a bunch of shit (like you disgustingly appropriating "Believe All Women" when that false story about Warren accusing Bernie saying a woman couldn't be president came out) is hardly proof of "Horseshoe Theory" in the face of you actually defending fucking Pinochet lmao
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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:48:40 PM
#125:


Smashingpmkns posted...
(like you disgustingly appropriating "Believe All Women" when that false story about Warren accusing Bernie saying a woman couldn't be president came out)

lmao I was pointing out the hypocrisy of YOU saying you "believe all women" but having different standards for Bernie and Biden. Even in a topic where you're getting called out on your constant dishonesty, you can't be honest. Calling Biden a rapist, saying he wouldn't handle the pandemic much better than Trump of all people while at the same time claiming he was only staying at home because he was senile, how fucking embarrassing that you think you can bring up the horseshoe theory. Stop the projection.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 1:50:57 PM
#126:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
lmao I was pointing out the hypocrisy of YOU saying you "believe all women" but having different standards for Bernie and Biden.

You, I and everyone else here knows there's a world of difference between multiple sexual assault accusations and the word of one political rival about a quote that was taken out of context. Stop it.

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QueenCarly
07/19/21 1:53:33 PM
#127:


Smashingpmkns posted...
you actually defending fucking Pinochet lmao

Lmao.

Defends literal fascists while trying to demonize leftists


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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:54:39 PM
#128:


QueenCarly posted...
Defends literal fascists while trying to demonize leftists

how on earth do you mindlessly believe a guy who literally just got called out for lying
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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 1:54:50 PM
#129:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
lmao I was pointing out the hypocrisy of YOU saying you "believe all women" but having different standards for Bernie and Biden. Even in a topic where you're getting called out on your constant dishonesty, you can't be honest. Calling Biden a rapist, saying he wouldn't handle the pandemic much better than Trump of all people while at the same time claiming he was only staying at home because he was senile, how fucking embarrassing that you think you can bring up the horseshoe theory. Stop the projection.

You still don't see how that is an absolutely disgusting way to use "Believe All Women" and is also a regular right wing tactic. Dishonesty? That is your entire presence on this board. Lmao You're not even denying the Pinochet stuff (actual far right crazy shit). At least you're past denying that now. But I guess I said some mean things which is worse than having actual political ideals that align with far right fascists

Fishhook theory is more appropriate.
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QueenCarly
07/19/21 1:56:37 PM
#130:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
how on earth do you mindlessly believe a guy who literally just got called out for lying

Because they owned up to it.

You are nothing but a simp for right wingers so it's definitely believable

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The Trent
07/19/21 1:57:22 PM
#131:


QueenCarly posted...
Because they owned up to it.

lol

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:58:53 PM
#132:


Smashingpmkns posted...
You still don't see how that is an absolutely disgusting way to use "Believe All Women"

But... you didn't believe Warren. Despite constantly taking that position against Biden. I was mocking you.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Lmao You're not even denying the Pinochet stuff (actual far right crazy shit). At least you're past denying that now. But I guess I said some mean things which is worse than having actual political ideals that align with far right fascists

I don't respond to straw man arguments or false accusations. Obviously I never did that, but you're desperate and need something to change the subject since you just got caught red handed.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 1:59:29 PM
#133:


QueenCarly posted...
Because they owned up to it.

he denied it until I posted a picture LMAO you have to be trolling
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 2:03:22 PM
#134:


Broseph_Stalin posted...


I don't respond to straw man arguments or false accusations.

You're in no position to talk about straw man arguments when you're trying to compare sexual assault accusations to political hearsay (among people actively campaigning against each other, no less) to point out supposed hypocrisy.

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QueenCarly
07/19/21 2:03:29 PM
#135:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
he denied it until I posted a picture LMAO you have to be trolling

And you would have tried to bullshit us about how it was taken out of context and that you are still right

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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 2:03:57 PM
#136:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
But... you didn't believe Warren. Despite constantly taking that position against Biden. I was mocking you.

Holy fuck how do you not understand that is exactly the problem? Jesus dude.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
I don't respond to straw man arguments or false accusations. Obviously I never did that, but you're desperate and need something to change the subject since you just got caught red handed.

Except you literally did. And you're the one who changed the subject to begin with lmao Talk about dishonest!
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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 2:05:25 PM
#137:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
You're in no position to talk about straw man arguments when you're trying to compare sexual assault accusations to political hearsay to point out supposed hypocrisy.

Claiming you believe Tara fucking Reade of all people, because you believe ALL women, and then calling Warren a liar is the definition of hypocrisy. Sorry buddy.
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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 2:06:40 PM
#138:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Claiming you believe Tara fucking Reade of all people, because you believe ALL women, and then calling Warren a liar is the definition of hypocrisy. Sorry buddy.

Believe All Women is specifically about sexual assault allegations. This is seriously misogynistic right wing troll shit.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 2:09:47 PM
#139:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Except you literally did.

Look I realize I just embarrassed the shit out of you but pulling a random lie out of your ass that you can't back up is the lamest possible way of trying to save face.
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The Trent
07/19/21 2:11:32 PM
#140:


i'm having a hard time taking you seriously without a sig line

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Smashingpmkns
07/19/21 2:13:26 PM
#141:


We've been through this song and dance before way too many times. You did, you deny it because you're dishonest. But we can all at least see, in real time, you disgustingly appropriating "Believe All Woman" in a way that is reprehensible even for you.
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RchHomieQuanChi
07/19/21 2:14:15 PM
#142:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Claiming you believe Tara fucking Reade of all people, because you believe ALL women, and then calling Warren a liar is the definition of hypocrisy. Sorry buddy.

I cannot stress this enough.

Taking the word of multiple sexual assault (an actual crime) accusers but not taking the word of one politician when she says something bad about her political rival is not indicative of hypocrisy, because the two situations are fundamentally different and hold completely different weight.

Holy fuck, why can't you just admit when you've completely misfired?

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averagejoel
07/19/21 2:18:07 PM
#143:


Prismsblade posted...
It's incredibly unlikely in all honest. The rest of the world had hundreds of years to get their shit together before the US entered the world stage. But they failed. Hard.

We on the other hand brought the opportunity for peace, innovation, wealth and QoL improvements to the world unheard throughout all of human history. Everyones lives are objectively better.

All of this within a relatively sort period of time.
this would be an interesting thesis statement. it could still use some clarifying, but it could work.

however, you would still need to actually demonstrate, with a whole lot of evidence and commentary, that it was true.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 2:23:30 PM
#144:


Smashingpmkns posted...
We've been through this song and dance before way too many times.

You're right! I did a search for Pinochet on the archive and the only two post are... me criticizing him and you making the exact same accusation (without proof, again).

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ElatedVenusaur
07/19/21 2:27:19 PM
#145:


Yeah, we totally had/have it together, what with the slavery and the Jim Crow and unelected officials having broad power(arguably greater than that of elected officials!) over politics and the ongoing efforts to restrict franchise and nullify election outcomes.

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legendary_zell
07/19/21 2:29:48 PM
#146:


averagejoel posted...
this would be an interesting thesis statement. it could still use some clarifying, but it could work.

however, you would still need to actually demonstrate, with a whole lot of evidence and commentary, that it was true.

Yep, maybe this is correct. But it'll take a hell of a lot of evidence and may be impossible to justify. And that's ignoring the question of whether horrible things can be justified by good things happening later. And if the balance comes out negative, the advocates of that stance defended horrible things for no reason.

Seems like mostly downside and relatively little upside that is hard to even call upside. Just like the outcomes of bombing Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia back to the stone age for geopolitical/ideological reasons.

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Prismsblade
07/19/21 2:33:02 PM
#147:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
IDK, seems like there's quite a few countries doing much better than the U.S. right now when it comes to QoL.
That's all well and good, for them, but their personal QoL and simply existing for the most part isn't doing anything for the rest of the world. Let alone moving it forward.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/19/21 2:41:52 PM
#148:


Name a country you think has a higher quality of life than the US and I'll show you a country that owes that quality of life to the US.
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Questionmarktarius
07/19/21 2:42:38 PM
#149:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Name a country you think has a higher quality of life than the US and I'll show you a country that owes that quality of life to the US.
...Finland?
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Gwynevere
07/19/21 3:28:26 PM
#150:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Funny how the guy who screams "Horseshoe Theory!" often finds himself on the same side as far right shit posters lol
Anyone who believes in horseshoe theory probably has irradiated mush in their skull anyway, it's such an unbelievably stupid thing that still gets pushed

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Questionmarktarius
07/19/21 3:31:17 PM
#151:


Gwynevere posted...
it's such an unbelievably stupid thing that still gets pushed
may as well double down...


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