Current Events > I was wrong about transgender suicide rates.

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Bitcoin 07/15/21 5:01:14 AM #1:	Yesterday I argued and posted the idea that people who transition have higher suicide rates. Ive since learnt this was some bullcrap that was peddled a few years back purposefully misinterpreting a Dutch study. So they you go. The more you learn. Hopefully this stops other people being as ignorant as I was yesterday. Apologies for anyone I may have offended by peddling fake news I genuinely thought was real. <cite>Bitcoin posted [p:956099531] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Yesterday I argued and posted the idea that people who transition have higher suicide rates. Ive since learnt this was some bullcrap that was peddled a few years back purposefully misinterpreting a Dutch study. So they you go. The more you learn. Hopefully this stops other people being as ignorant as I was yesterday. Apologies for anyone I may have offended by peddling fake news I genuinely thought was real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 07/15/21 5:04:26 AM #2:	good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:956099555] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 07/15/21 5:04:48 AM #3:	I forgive you Bitcoin, now give me my money back. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:956099561] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>I forgive you Bitcoin, now give me my money back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 07/15/21 5:09:51 AM #4:	a welcome, if unexpected, turn of (current) events. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me. <cite>Medussa posted [p:956099594] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>a welcome, if unexpected, turn of (current) events. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 07/15/21 5:18:07 AM #5:	Thanks for this info --- i9 9900k \| RTX 2080ti FE \|Aorus Master Z390 \| 2 TB 850 EVO + 1tb 970 EVO\| DDR4 32 gig 3200 RAM \| EVGA T2 1000W https://valid.x86.fr/w0rvt0 <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:956099669] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Thanks for this info </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 07/15/21 5:20:16 AM #6:	Bitcoin posted... misinterpreting a Dutch study. What was the study, and what did they conclude? --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:956099698] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Bitcoin posted... </cite> <quote>misinterpreting a Dutch study. </quote> What was the study, and what did they conclude? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 07/15/21 5:22:44 AM #7:	I swear earlier today I saw a topic on CE along the lines of "Does anyone on CE ever admit they are wrong?" Followed by the context of everyone online wants the last word always, and finding someone who can admit to a mistake or being wrong is rare. --- Above us lay the burdens, Below us lay the truths. We're somewhere in the middle, and we're all discontent too. Slayer_22 picked waifu - https://ibb.co/WD8p1Kz <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:956099722] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>I swear earlier today I saw a topic on CE along the lines of "Does anyone on CE ever admit they are wrong?" Followed by the context of everyone online wants the last word always, and finding someone who can admit to a mistake or being wrong is rare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/15/21 5:24:03 AM #8:	Whose alt? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:956099734] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Whose alt? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitcoin 07/15/21 5:24:49 AM #9:	DocDelicious posted... What was the study, and what did they conclude? https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs. <cite>Bitcoin posted [p:956099741] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>What was the study, and what did they conclude?</quote> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 07/15/21 5:35:20 AM #10:	Bitcoin posted... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs. Does it list the final stats? Like actual numbers? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/PmX8smn https://imgur.com/mwTy0iF https://imgur.com/FCER80e <cite>Middle hope posted [p:956099846] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Bitcoin posted... </cite> <quote>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs.</quote>Does it list the final stats? Like actual numbers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 07/15/21 5:45:15 AM #11:	Bitcoin posted... https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs. Thanks. So higher suicide rates across the board, but not because of the actual act of transitioning. Sad people that can't find their place in life are sad because they can't find their place in life, shocking research lol. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:956099939] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Bitcoin posted... </cite> <quote>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 Conclusion: Conclusions We observed no increase in suicide death risk over time and even a decrease in suicide death risk in trans women. However, the suicide risk in transgender people is higher than in the general population and seems to occur during every stage of transitioning. It is important to have specific attention for suicide risk in the counseling of this population and in providing suicide prevention programs.</quote> Thanks. So higher suicide rates across the board, but not because of the actual act of transitioning. Sad people that can't find their place in life are sad because they can't find their place in life, shocking research lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webbernet 07/15/21 5:51:11 AM #12:	The real answer is that we can help lower suicide rates by not being an asshole to people. It's amazing. --- Log on to the Webbernet! <cite>Webbernet posted [p:956099997] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>The real answer is that we can help lower suicide rates by not being an asshole to people. It's amazing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scamatoru 07/15/21 5:53:06 AM #13:	the 'cause transphobia' narrative kicked in yet? --- nothing to see here <cite>scamatoru posted [p:956100029] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>the 'cause transphobia' narrative kicked in yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 07/15/21 5:56:47 AM #14:	DocDelicious posted... Sad people that can't find their place in life are sad because they can't find their place in life, shocking research lol. "Can't find their place in life" is a weird way of saying "are denied basic human rights at every turn" --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:956100075] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>Sad people that can't find their place in life are sad because they can't find their place in life, shocking research lol.</quote>"Can't find their place in life" is a weird way of saying "are denied basic human rights at every turn" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Hat 07/15/21 6:01:31 AM #15:	Good on you for owing up to your mistake. I respect that. --- https://www.twitch.tv/mattthehat I stream Beat Saber Monday-Friday at midnight PST! You can request songs for me to dance to, even the Kirby Dance! <cite>The_Hat posted [p:956100137] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Good on you for owing up to your mistake. I respect that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 07/15/21 6:02:11 AM #16:	g0ldie posted... good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices. --- Good vibes only <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:956100148] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 07/15/21 6:02:26 AM #17:	scamatoru posted... the 'cause transphobia' narrative kicked in yet? why wouldn't transphobia have some effect on whether some trans people attempted/committed suicide and/or some other forms of self-harm? other forms of societal/cultural grief can lead to different groups of people doing the same. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:956100151] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>scamatoru posted... </cite> <quote>the 'cause transphobia' narrative kicked in yet?</quote>why wouldn't transphobia have some effect on whether some trans people attempted/committed suicide and/or some other forms of self-harm? other forms of societal/cultural grief can lead to different groups of people doing the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webbernet 07/15/21 6:12:07 AM #18:	He wishes to deny his part in the circle of people hurting one another. Words can be a weapon scamatoru. You can't tell me you've never had someone say something to you that hurt you. --- Log on to the Webbernet! <cite>Webbernet posted [p:956100260] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>He wishes to deny his part in the circle of people hurting one another. Words can be a weapon scamatoru. You can't tell me you've never had someone say something to you that hurt you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/15/21 5:54:06 PM #19:	I still say "look at the suicides and depression, clearly [Thing] is bad!" is a bullshit argument no matter what the stats are Same thing happened to minorities and homosexuals and those rates plummeted once you stop being dicks to them high suicide from a persecuted class just shows how bad society is, not the victims --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956119507] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>I still say "look at the suicides and depression, clearly [Thing] is bad!" is a bullshit argument no matter what the stats are Same thing happened to minorities and homosexuals and those rates plummeted once you stop being dicks to them high suicide from a persecuted class just shows how bad society is, not the victims </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/15/21 5:55:46 PM #20:	g0ldie posted... why wouldn't transphobia have some effect on whether some trans people attempted/committed suicide and/or some other forms of self-harm? other forms of societal/cultural grief can lead to different groups of people doing the same. because it would make him look bad --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:956119556] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>why wouldn't transphobia have some effect on whether some trans people attempted/committed suicide and/or some other forms of self-harm? other forms of societal/cultural grief can lead to different groups of people doing the same.</quote> because it would make him look bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 07/15/21 5:59:19 PM #21:	g0ldie posted... good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices. This. You're an alright guy, TC. ^_^b --- she/her -- My Server, Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/emd My PMD Rescue Server: https://discord.gg/E57gMQq <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:956119678] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>good on you for owning up to it, because for many others, if they knew it was untrue, they'd continue pushing the same arguments due to their prejudices.</quote>This. You're an alright guy, TC. ^_^b </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 07/15/21 6:03:18 PM #22:	Glad to know not all of my posts amount to pissing in the wind. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:956119806] in I was wron... [t:79565338]...</cite> <quote>Glad to know not all of my posts amount to pissing in the wind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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