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MushroomMuncher 07/11/21 5:13:57 PM #51:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... If one can accept the idea that something (God) had no cause, one can accept the idea that something else (the universe) had no cause. You just have a hard time doing that because a deity with intentions is more comforting than a cold universe. It's not more sensible. It's just easier. A God creating a universe at least tells me where the universe came from. You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it. Its not a cold universe, you just think it is because you don't have a real answer about where it came from. I'll take an easy answer over a non-answer --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:955981910] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>If one can accept the idea that something (God) had no cause, one can accept the idea that something else (the universe) had no cause. You just have a hard time doing that because a deity with intentions is more comforting than a cold universe. It's not more sensible. It's just easier.</quote>A God creating a universe at least tells me where the universe came from. You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it. Its not a cold universe, you just think it is because you don't have a real answer about where it came from. I'll take an easy answer over a non-answer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/11/21 5:15:59 PM #52:	I was sold on the theory of the origin of time, a concept that the universe could not have come from nothing (even in a loop) ~ so, whether the answer is first mover and/or inherency of Forms, there is an extremely strong probably that God exists or that there is a grander purpose or method to the madness. Coupled with ~ gamblers principal. Better to risk a reign in heaven, than an eternity fallen from grace. Over <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955981973] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I was sold on the theory of the origin of time, a concept that the universe could not have come from nothing (even in a loop) ~ so, whether the answer is first mover and/or inherency of Forms, there is an extremely strong probably that God exists or that there is a grander purpose or method to the madness. Coupled with ~ gamblers principal. Better to risk a reign in heaven, than an eternity fallen from grace. Over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 07/11/21 5:20:03 PM #53:	MushroomMuncher posted... A God creating a universe at least tells me where the universe came from. You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it. Its not a cold universe, you just think it is because you don't have a real answer about where it came from. I'll take an easy answer over a non-answer Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:955982088] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>A God creating a universe at least tells me where the universe came from. You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it. Its not a cold universe, you just think it is because you don't have a real answer about where it came from. I'll take an easy answer over a non-answer</quote> Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/11/21 5:21:14 PM #54:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity. Debate my point <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955982131] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity.</quote>Debate my point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 07/11/21 5:21:38 PM #55:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity. If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:955982145] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>Look up the average temperature of the cosmos. It's a cold universe. But at least you admit you're taking the easy choice. Most believers don't have that dignity.</quote>If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/11/21 5:23:06 PM #56:	MushroomMuncher posted... If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count What are you worried about? Andromeda? Theories state it would be a peaceful transition mostly <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955982214] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count</quote>What are you worried about? Andromeda? Theories state it would be a peaceful transition mostly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 07/11/21 5:24:32 PM #57:	Xethuminra posted... I was sold on the theory of the origin of time, a concept that the universe could not have come from nothing (even in a loop) ~ so, whether the answer is first mover and/or inherency of Forms, there is an extremely strong probably that God exists or that there is a grander purpose or method to the madness. Coupled with ~ gamblers principal. Better to risk a reign in heaven, than an eternity fallen from grace. Over Pascal's wager assumes Christianity is correct, and it also denigrates the very religion it supposedly champions by reducing faith to game theory. Alea iacta est, indeed. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:955982255] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>I was sold on the theory of the origin of time, a concept that the universe could not have come from nothing (even in a loop) ~ so, whether the answer is first mover and/or inherency of Forms, there is an extremely strong probably that God exists or that there is a grander purpose or method to the madness. Coupled with ~ gamblers principal. Better to risk a reign in heaven, than an eternity fallen from grace. Over</quote> Pascal's wager assumes Christianity is correct, and it also denigrates the very religion it supposedly champions by reducing faith to game theory. Alea iacta est, indeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 07/11/21 5:25:53 PM #58:	Xethuminra posted... What are you worried about? Andromeda? Theories state it would be a peaceful transition mostly No I don't care about Andromeda, I'll be dead millions of years before that happens I ain't about that "hypothetical" life is all. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:955982306] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>What are you worried about? Andromeda? Theories state it would be a peaceful transition mostly</quote>No I don't care about Andromeda, I'll be dead millions of years before that happens I ain't about that "hypothetical" life is all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/11/21 5:26:29 PM #59:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... Pascal's wager assumes Christianity is correct, and it also denigrates the very religion it supposedly champions by reducing faith to game theory. Alea iacta est, indeed. I wasnt talking about Christianity. Someone wrote a book. None of it is verifiable or terribly coherent and there is evidence of.... whats the word Im looking for..... a dispute of ownership. Owing to past religions. I dont think whatever Christ said is that. Nor do I think He would approve of Catholicism, or most of its branches. Im more than willing to change my mind of course. Threats of hell wont cut it tho <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955982327] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>Pascal's wager assumes Christianity is correct, and it also denigrates the very religion it supposedly champions by reducing faith to game theory. Alea iacta est, indeed.</quote>I wasnt talking about Christianity. Someone wrote a book. None of it is verifiable or terribly coherent and there is evidence of.... whats the word Im looking for..... a dispute of ownership. Owing to past religions. I dont think whatever Christ said is that. Nor do I think He would approve of Catholicism, or most of its branches. Im more than willing to change my mind of course. Threats of hell wont cut it tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/11/21 5:26:57 PM #60:	MushroomMuncher posted... No I don't care about Andromeda, I'll be dead millions of years before that happens I ain't about that "hypothetical" life is all. Cant prove non-existence? Thats a hypothesis. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955982344] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>No I don't care about Andromeda, I'll be dead millions of years before that happens I ain't about that "hypothetical" life is all.</quote>Cant prove non-existence? Thats a hypothesis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 07/11/21 5:31:51 PM #61:	MushroomMuncher posted... If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count The average temperature of the Milky Way is still cold. Quite cold, in fact. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:955982500] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>If we can't leave the milky way it doesn't count</quote> The average temperature of the Milky Way is still cold. Quite cold, in fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 07/11/21 6:30:48 PM #62:	can you guys still to the original topic? --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:955984544] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>can you guys still to the original topic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 07/11/21 6:38:27 PM #63:	armandro posted... can you guys still to the original topic? Good question. What was the first topic on GameFAQs? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:955984796] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>can you guys still to the original topic? </quote> Good question. What was the first topic on GameFAQs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 07/11/21 6:39:28 PM #64:	Noahs ark flood. Mass genocide is something I can believe the Christian god committing <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:955984817] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Noahs ark flood. Mass genocide is something I can believe the Christian god committing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 07/11/21 6:46:10 PM #65:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Noahs ark flood. Mass genocide is something I can believe the Christian god committing Abrahamic god --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:955985013] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Noahs ark flood. Mass genocide is something I can believe the Christian god committing</quote>Abrahamic god </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/12/21 12:40:38 AM #66:	MushroomMuncher posted... You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it. What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955994517] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>You can use the "What created God" argument as well but that's just another step to it.</quote> What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 07/12/21 12:46:11 AM #67:	Guide posted... What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god? How does zero become a one --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:955994628] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god?</quote>How does zero become a one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/12/21 1:03:46 AM #68:	armandro posted... How does zero become a one a question which applies both to the universe and a god. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955995042] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>armandro posted... </cite> <quote>How does zero become a one</quote> a question which applies both to the universe and a god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 07/12/21 1:58:53 AM #69:	Guide posted... What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god? Well then that could enter some sort of tangent about where consciousness comes from and other theories about that stuff, stuff way beyond our comprehension, or what one could even call a "God" and what is allowed to carry that label. I cannot accept the Universe as it is as something that just happened, but also managed to coincidentally also house the creation of life in it, for reasons. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:955996051] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>What do you mean, exactly? Like, why can you stop at a god and be ok, but the origin of that god does nothing? Likewise, why is "from nothing" and "always there" not acceptable answers for the universe, but not for a god?</quote>Well then that could enter some sort of tangent about where consciousness comes from and other theories about that stuff, stuff way beyond our comprehension, or what one could even call a "God" and what is allowed to carry that label. I cannot accept the Universe as it is as something that just happened, but also managed to coincidentally also house the creation of life in it, for reasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 07/12/21 2:11:51 AM #70:	One time I was eating a Grand Slam at Denny's when God suddenly mashed His face against the window and starting jangling His house keys at me. After that, it was hard to deny His existence. Especially since He slashed my tires afterwards. <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:955996283] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>One time I was eating a Grand Slam at Denny's when God suddenly mashed His face against the window and starting jangling His house keys at me. After that, it was hard to deny His existence. Especially since He slashed my tires afterwards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 07/12/21 2:15:41 AM #71:	one time i got in a car with bokchoi and survived the car ride even tho we had close calls --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:955996326] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>one time i got in a car with bokchoi and survived the car ride even tho we had close calls </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 07/12/21 2:19:41 AM #72:	I was studying/practicing Buddhism and Daoism as a way to cope with my mental health issues, and had this weird connection to nature while meditating. Realized nature is deserving of as much reverence we give God and that there's some universal love we're all drifting along in. It's a connection I hold more personal and would never use it to argue the existence of a higher power. --- Peace Love Dope <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:955996392] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I was studying/practicing Buddhism and Daoism as a way to cope with my mental health issues, and had this weird connection to nature while meditating. Realized nature is deserving of as much reverence we give God and that there's some universal love we're all drifting along in. It's a connection I hold more personal and would never use it to argue the existence of a higher power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 07/12/21 2:22:56 AM #73:	I read the gospels. After that I read other books of the Bible and it just made sense to me. Idk --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:955996438] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I read the gospels. After that I read other books of the Bible and it just made sense to me. Idk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/12/21 2:24:44 AM #74:	Background_Guy posted... One time I was eating a Grand Slam at Denny's when God suddenly mashed His face against the window and starting jangling His house keys at me. After that, it was hard to deny His existence. Especially since He slashed my tires afterwards. sorry that was me. --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:955996460] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>One time I was eating a Grand Slam at Denny's when God suddenly mashed His face against the window and starting jangling His house keys at me. After that, it was hard to deny His existence. Especially since He slashed my tires afterwards.</quote> sorry that was me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 07/12/21 2:46:41 AM #75:	dj1200 posted... I read the gospels. After that I read other books of the Bible and it just made sense to me. Idk yeah, the old testament all points to Jesus crazy they're bad ppl but who is good but God? he came here to save the lost sheep --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:955996767] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>dj1200 posted... </cite> <quote>I read the gospels. After that I read other books of the Bible and it just made sense to me. Idk</quote>yeah, the old testament all points to Jesus crazy they're bad ppl but who is good but God? he came here to save the lost sheep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/12/21 3:22:42 AM #76:	MushroomMuncher posted... Well then that could enter some sort of tangent about where consciousness comes from and other theories about that stuff, stuff way beyond our comprehension, or what one could even call a "God" and what is allowed to carry that label. I cannot accept the Universe as it is as something that just happened, but also managed to coincidentally also house the creation of life in it, for reasons. Do you drive a Dodge? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955997188] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>Well then that could enter some sort of tangent about where consciousness comes from and other theories about that stuff, stuff way beyond our comprehension, or what one could even call a "God" and what is allowed to carry that label. I cannot accept the Universe as it is as something that just happened, but also managed to coincidentally also house the creation of life in it, for reasons.</quote> Do you drive a Dodge? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 07/12/21 8:54:10 AM #77:	I believe God is an externalized representation of man's desire to improve himself. There are monsters among us, to be sure, but overall the human race is driven by an innate impulse to understand, advance and commodify. God is a useful avatar for this inherent drive. Now, one may then ask: What causes that innate drive? May it not be argued that some ethereal power imbued humans with this innate drive? Perhaps, but if so I imagine it is something quite dissimilar from anything our religions propound. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:956001161] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I believe God is an externalized representation of man's desire to improve himself. There are monsters among us, to be sure, but overall the human race is driven by an innate impulse to understand, advance and commodify. God is a useful avatar for this inherent drive. Now, one may then ask: What causes that innate drive? May it not be argued that some ethereal power imbued humans with this innate drive? Perhaps, but if so I imagine it is something quite dissimilar from anything our religions propound. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/12/21 8:55:24 AM #78:	Learning about him as a child and witnessing Christianity is what immediately made me realise was no way he could actually exist as they claim he does. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:956001177] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Learning about him as a child and witnessing Christianity is what immediately made me realise was no way he could actually exist as they claim he does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 07/12/21 9:36:47 AM #79:	P sure I saw Jesus in my toast once --- Good vibes only <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:956001892] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>P sure I saw Jesus in my toast once </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/12/21 10:23:08 AM #80:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... I believe God is an externalized representation of man's desire to improve himself. There are monsters among us, to be sure, but overall the human race is driven by an innate impulse to understand, advance and commodify. God is a useful avatar for this inherent drive. Now, one may then ask: What causes that innate drive? May it not be argued that some ethereal power imbued humans with this innate drive? Perhaps, but if so I imagine it is something quite dissimilar from anything our religions propound. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956002903] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>I believe God is an externalized representation of man's desire to improve himself. There are monsters among us, to be sure, but overall the human race is driven by an innate impulse to understand, advance and commodify. God is a useful avatar for this inherent drive. Now, one may then ask: What causes that innate drive? May it not be argued that some ethereal power imbued humans with this innate drive? Perhaps, but if so I imagine it is something quite dissimilar from anything our religions propound.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 10:37:54 AM #81:	I used to believe in "God", until I started thinking and realized that there has literally been thousands of religions since the dawn of humanity, yet not one has actually proven that their god/gods/goddess/goddesses actually exist. They claim "Oh, our god is beyond human comprehension!" to handwave away actual proof. They also thump their religious textbook as "proof" despite it lacking credible sources. --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956003244] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I used to believe in "God", until I started thinking and realized that there has literally been thousands of religions since the dawn of humanity, yet not one has actually proven that their god/gods/goddess/goddesses actually exist. They claim "Oh, our god is beyond human comprehension!" to handwave away actual proof. They also thump their religious textbook as "proof" despite it lacking credible sources. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 07/12/21 11:37:42 AM #82:	Xethuminra posted... Why the random bold? <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:956004779] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> Why the random bold? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 11:41:34 AM #83:	Xethuminra posted... Yeah, that's one thing that makes me laugh. Christians: "God gave us free will!" Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone!" Also also Christians: "God demands everyone obey and follow him!" So which is it? Do we have free will to do as we please? Or are we just marching along to whatever plan he has, thus we really don't have free will? Also, how is demanding we slave and sacrifice ourselves for him "free will"? --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956004892] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote> </quote>Yeah, that's one thing that makes me laugh. Christians: "God gave us free will!" Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone!" Also also Christians: "God demands everyone obey and follow him!" So which is it? Do we have free will to do as we please? Or are we just marching along to whatever plan he has, thus we really don't have free will? Also, how is demanding we slave and sacrifice ourselves for him "free will"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/12/21 12:15:21 PM #84:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... Why the random bold? To separate individual concepts and highlight the spoiler tag <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956005794] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>Why the random bold?</quote>To separate individual concepts and highlight the spoiler tag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 07/12/21 12:41:52 PM #85:	A persons mind can be swayed. It's not just YOU formulating thoughts that come into your mind.... but of course YOU yourself can act on the/those thoughts... Yes, knowing that we are all sinners, we're born pre-disposed to sin/commit evil. Look at children; they can be obedient, but they can also be mischievous. Yes, your destiny was pre-determined. Just as Christ doesn't know the exact time he's coming back, only God, we don't know what choices we will make in this life before the time(such as accepting Christs invitation). Only God knows the future, cause he's already there....inhabiting eternity is definitely something. We can think about it, saying "Oh, if THIS were to happen, I'd do this, or that" but he knows what decisions we're going to or would make in any given situation. All Christians can hope for is to be accounted worthy by Christ to enter heaven, as.. The Gospel according to Matthew Chap. 7 : 21-24 states: 21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." 22 "Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?" 23 "And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS." 24 "Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock." --- What our enemies have begun, we will finish <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:956006511] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>A persons mind can be swayed. It's not just YOU formulating thoughts that come into your mind.... but of course YOU yourself can act on the/those thoughts... Yes, knowing that we are all sinners, we're born pre-disposed to sin/commit evil. Look at children; they can be obedient, but they can also be mischievous. Yes, your destiny was pre-determined. Just as Christ doesn't know the exact time he's coming back, only God, we don't know what choices we will make in this life before the time(such as accepting Christs invitation). Only God knows the future, cause he's already there....inhabiting eternity is definitely something. We can think about it, saying "Oh, if THIS were to happen, I'd do this, or that" but he knows what decisions we're going to or would make in any given situation. All Christians can hope for is to be accounted worthy by Christ to enter heaven, as.. The Gospel according to Matthew Chap. 7 : 21-24 states: 21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." 22 "Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?" 23 "And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS." 24 "Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 07/12/21 12:45:29 PM #87:	TyVulpine posted... Yeah, that's one thing that makes me laugh. Christians: "God gave us free will!" Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone!" Also also Christians: "God demands everyone obey and follow him!" So which is it? Do we have free will to do as we please? Or are we just marching along to whatever plan he has, thus we really don't have free will? Also, how is demanding we slave and sacrifice ourselves for him "free will"? Bruh. How hard is it really to reconcile that lol You could go whichever and whatever direction as far as all of those go --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:956006623] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, that's one thing that makes me laugh. Christians: "God gave us free will!" Also Christians: "God has a plan for everyone!" Also also Christians: "God demands everyone obey and follow him!" So which is it? Do we have free will to do as we please? Or are we just marching along to whatever plan he has, thus we really don't have free will? Also, how is demanding we slave and sacrifice ourselves for him "free will"?</quote> Bruh. How hard is it really to reconcile that lol You could go whichever and whatever direction as far as all of those go </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 12:45:45 PM #88:	You kind of hyperbole there. Destiny and per-determined basically mean the same thing, even though there's no evidence anything is per-determined about the future. Sin is a man-made myth used to control the masses through fear and intimidation. Also, using the Bible is not a good idea, as it lacks credible sources for it's claims. Heck, there's no evidence that heaven, or the Christian god even exist. --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956006638] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>You kind of hyperbole there. Destiny and per-determined basically mean the same thing, even though there's no evidence anything is per-determined about the future. Sin is a man-made myth used to control the masses through fear and intimidation. Also, using the Bible is not a good idea, as it lacks credible sources for it's claims. Heck, there's no evidence that heaven, or the Christian god even exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 12:47:50 PM #89:	RedJackson posted... Bruh. How hard is it really to reconcile that lol You could go whichever and whatever direction as far as all of those go No, logic dictates that all three cannot all be right. You can't have free will while at the same time fulfilling a pre-created plan. That's like creating a robot and then trying to convince it that it has "free will" when it can only go as far as it's programming will allow it. --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956006709] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Bruh. How hard is it really to reconcile that lol You could go whichever and whatever direction as far as all of those go</quote>No, logic dictates that all three cannot all be right. You can't have free will while at the same time fulfilling a pre-created plan. That's like creating a robot and then trying to convince it that it has "free will" when it can only go as far as it's programming will allow it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marauder64 07/12/21 12:49:06 PM #90:	DuranOfForcena posted... but Christ is God because of the whole cuz of the whole Trinity thing #CheckmateChristians Yes, yes, Christ is "God" as in he came from God, but is not God the Father himself. If a MAN came, saying he is God himself, and performed many miracles, claiming he's doing it all himself, would you believe him? --- What our enemies have begun, we will finish <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:956006746] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>but Christ is God because of the whole cuz of the whole Trinity thing #CheckmateChristians</quote> Yes, yes, Christ is "God" as in he came from God, but is not God the Father himself. If a MAN came, saying he is God himself, and performed many miracles, claiming he's doing it all himself, would you believe him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Marauder64 07/12/21 12:51:53 PM #92:	TyVulpine posted... No, logic dictates that all three cannot all be right. You can't have free will while at the same time fulfilling a pre-created plan. That's like creating a robot and then trying to convince it that it has "free will" when it can only go as far as it's programming will allow it. Indeed, how sophisticated God's creation: the human, is! --- What our enemies have begun, we will finish <cite>Marauder64 posted [p:956006828] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite> <quote>No, logic dictates that all three cannot all be right. You can't have free will while at the same time fulfilling a pre-created plan. That's like creating a robot and then trying to convince it that it has "free will" when it can only go as far as it's programming will allow it.</quote> Indeed, how sophisticated God's creation: the human, is! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 12:52:21 PM #93:	Marauder64 posted... Indeed, how sophisticated God's creation: the human, is! Citation needed. --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956006842] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Marauder64 posted... </cite> <quote>Indeed, how sophisticated God's creation: the human, is!</quote>Citation needed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 07/12/21 12:53:28 PM #94:	Marauder64 posted... Yes, yes, Christ is "God" as in he came from God, but is not God the Father himself. Citation needed (and no, the Bible is not credible citation as it itself lacks credible sources for it's claims) --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:956006869] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Marauder64 posted... </cite> Yes, yes, Christ is "God" as in he came from God, but is not God the Father himself. Citation needed (and no, the Bible is not credible citation as it itself lacks credible sources for it's claims) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/12/21 12:53:42 PM #95:	The Admiral getting banned. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:956006879] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral getting banned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The-Apostle 07/12/21 12:55:07 PM #96:	I was in a situation when I was in high school where I was at the beach with my brother and we were getting knocked around by waves (I seriously thought we were gonna die) until it became clear we were gonna be fine. Then I put my arm around my brother and we got knocked back to shore. --- http://goo.gl/mnO36O #GoPackGo Not changing sig until NHL players are allowed to play in the Olympics. Started 2/22/2018 <cite>The-Apostle posted [p:956006919] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>I was in a situation when I was in high school where I was at the beach with my brother and we were getting knocked around by waves (I seriously thought we were gonna die) until it became clear we were gonna be fine. Then I put my arm around my brother and we got knocked back to shore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/12/21 12:57:30 PM #97:	Too many bad thing happen for God to be real or loving. Maybe there is a deity, but he's actually malevolent and also punishes us for believing in other false gods. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:956006996] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Too many bad thing happen for God to be real or loving. Maybe there is a deity, but he's actually malevolent and also punishes us for believing in other false gods. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 07/12/21 1:00:47 PM #98:	The question of free will only came about because the world is logical & humans can be as fragile as they are resilient. Logic is naturally predictable. Therefore, we are predictable, otherwise it wouldnt be logical. Not to say that people cannot attain freedoms, or that there are not unpredictable elements to life, ~ but Just because we could theoretically anticipate every instance & action of an individuals life, does mean that it is necessarily possible to do so. Quite the conundrum, eh? Call it a paradox. So, while we technically adhere to rails grounded in physics & motivation, the totally of those events cannot be predicted & people retain (lets call it half of) their free will & dignity. Theres that, and then also theres some real chaos. Particles behaving randomly. Leaps of faith. Science cant try to tell me that the eggs randomly couple with sperm, but my mind & body are not random beyond that. Ridiculous. I think the entire argument of free will not existing is completely misunderstood by trendy misanthropy. If you were entirely free of any outside influence, why would you do anything at all? Haha. A rock doesnt have free will. You do. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956007083] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>The question of free will only came about because the world is logical & humans can be as fragile as they are resilient. Logic is naturally predictable. Therefore, we are predictable, otherwise it wouldnt be logical. Not to say that people cannot attain freedoms, or that there are not unpredictable elements to life, ~ but Just because we could theoretically anticipate every instance & action of an individuals life, does mean that it is necessarily possible to do so. Quite the conundrum, eh? Call it a paradox. So, while we technically adhere to rails grounded in physics & motivation, the totally of those events cannot be predicted & people retain (lets call it half of) their free will & dignity. Theres that, and then also theres some real chaos. Particles behaving randomly. Leaps of faith. Science cant try to tell me that the eggs randomly couple with sperm, but my mind & body are not random beyond that. Ridiculous. I think the entire argument of free will not existing is completely misunderstood by trendy misanthropy. If you were entirely free of any outside influence, why would you do anything at all? Haha. A rock doesnt have free will. You do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DandyQuackShot 07/12/21 1:09:05 PM #99:	Guy on the radio said I could so I believed. --- https://youtu.be/Hjl1h2a-MBE <cite>DandyQuackShot posted [p:956007291] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>Guy on the radio said I could so I believed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DB_Insider 07/12/21 1:09:46 PM #100:	100 <cite>DB_Insider posted [p:956007305] in What event... [t:79558850]...</cite> <quote>100 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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