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ZannoL
07/08/21 11:27:09 AM
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Are you vaccinated?


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/us-heading-for-dangerous-fall-with-surge-in-delta-covid-cases-and-return-of-indoor-mask-mandates.html

As the highly transmissible delta variant continues to spread rapidly across the United States and elsewhere around the world, scientists and other health experts are warning that indoor mask mandates and other public health measures will likely make a return in this U.S. this fall.

The country, which just celebrated the Fourth of July with some of its first large gatherings in more than a year, is headed toward a dangerous fall season when delta is expected to cause another surge in new cases, health experts say. Already the dominant variant in the U.S., delta will hit the states with the lowest vaccination rates the hardest unless those states and businesses reintroduce mask rules, capacity limits and other public health measures that theyve largely rolled back in recent months, experts say.

With new mutations discovered every few weeks, many scientists now predict that Covid will continue circulating around the world for at least the next two to three years, requiring nations to reinstitute public health measures on an ad hoc basis for the foreseeable future. Authorities in Australia, South Africa and Asia have recently reintroduced curfews or other measures to curb rising delta outbreaks. Japan just declared a coronavirus state of emergency in Tokyo and banned spectators at the Olympics. High vaccination rates in the U.S. and the warm summer months have bought the country some extra time, but outbreaks across the world are giving Americans a preview of what may come this fall.

I could foresee that in certain parts of the country, there could be a re-introduction of indoor mask mandates, distancing and occupancy limits in the coming months, said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organizations Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law.

He said he fears there will be major outbreaks in the U.S. this fall, especially in states with low vaccination rates.

We are heading for a very dangerous fall, with large swaths of the country still unvaccinated, a surging delta variant and people taking off their masks, he added.

The warning from scientists and other health experts comes as many businesses and offices across the U.S. have largely done away with their mask requirements, social distancing and other pandemic-related restrictions.

Almost immediately after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said fully vaccinated people didnt need to wear masks in most indoor settings in mid-May, Walmart and Costco followed suit, allowing fully vaccinated customers and employees to go maskless unless required by state or local laws. Likewise, Detroit automakers and the United Auto Workers union late last month agreed to make face masks optional for employees who are fully vaccinated.

Get vaccinated, people. And wear a mask please.
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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 11:30:24 AM
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Seriously, get vaccinated if you haven't. I keep repeating this, but a relatively mild case of covid left me with heart damage and ED. If covid doesn't kill you it can still cripple you permanently.

Wash your damn hands, wear your damn mask, and get your damn shot.

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pure_temper
07/08/21 11:32:02 AM
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govs around the world will not want to relinquish this new-found control even after covid is gone, esp if 2-3 years of this

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kingdrake2
07/08/21 11:32:11 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
a relatively mild case of covid left me with heart damage and ED.


there's also one user on CE who has lung damage that's worse than smoker's lung.
the ED is one someone doesn't want (cant get it up anymore).
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masterpug53
07/08/21 11:35:30 AM
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"It's like some of you don't even want the pandemic to be over!"

(...too lazy to post in that irritating half-caps styles)

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ChopinList
07/08/21 11:35:40 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Seriously, get vaccinated if you haven't. I keep repeating this, but a relatively mild case of covid left me with heart damage and ED. If covid doesn't kill you it can still cripple you permanently.

Wash your damn hands, wear your damn mask, and get your damn shot.

I think majority of the unvaccinated already made their decisions and nothing said on forums or by politicians will change their mind.

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 11:39:23 AM
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ChopinList posted...
I think majority of the unvaccinated already made their decisions and nothing said on forums or by politicians will change their mind.
Probably, but maybe a visceral fear that you might not have a working dick might scare one or two into a good choice.

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pure_temper
07/08/21 11:39:33 AM
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How much influence do billionaires have on what CNBC says?

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DDirtyDastard
07/08/21 11:40:01 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Seriously, get vaccinated if you haven't. I keep repeating this, but a relatively mild case of covid left me with heart damage and ED. If covid doesn't kill you it can still cripple you permanently.

Wash your damn hands, wear your damn mask, and get your damn shot.
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thronedfire2
07/08/21 11:40:29 AM
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Anyone who thought this would only be a one year thing is way too optimistic.

just gonna be even worse next year when people refuse to get vaccinated again because they just got one this year

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DoctorPiranha3
07/08/21 11:41:41 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Nuh uh. People keep telling me that pandemic is over and pointing all of this out is just fear mongering. COVID is over in America, bitches!
You've been calling it this whole time
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Xenozoa425
07/08/21 11:42:20 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Seriously, get vaccinated if you haven't. I keep repeating this, but a relatively mild case of covid left me with heart damage and ED. If covid doesn't kill you it can still cripple you permanently.
Did you previously have hypertension or chronic elevated BP?

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PatrickMahomes
07/08/21 11:42:25 AM
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tag

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tripleh213
07/08/21 11:44:08 AM
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Im done with the mask lol

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 11:44:19 AM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
Covid gave you Erectile Dysfunction?
Yes. It's awful. I've tried testosterone, viagra, cutting porn, I'm losing weight, nothing is helping.

Do not catch covid.

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 11:46:53 AM
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Xenozoa425 posted...
Did you previously have hypertension or chronic elevated BP?
Unknown, but probably. I've gotten my blood pressure under control since March, but that hasn't helped my dick either.

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ZannoL
07/08/21 11:47:08 AM
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There are so many dumb posters here who are like, "why worry about covid? If you're young you're not gonna die. So stop being paranoid!"

Damaged lungs are a thing. People (young ones included) have lungs damaged so badly from covid that they now need to get lung transplants. That's awful and not at all something to downplay.
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pure_temper
07/08/21 11:49:58 AM
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ZannoL posted...
There are so many dumb posters here who are like, "why worry about covid? If you're young you're not gonna die. So stop being paranoid!"

Damaged lungs are a thing. People (young ones included) have lungs damaged so badly from covid that they now need to get lung transplants. That's awful and not at all something to downplay.

source on the prevalence of these outcomes by age group?

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creativerealms
07/08/21 11:51:38 AM
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I want C2E2 to happen in December, but no.

Yeah I am selfish.

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ZannoL
07/08/21 11:51:45 AM
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article251210879.html

As state and local officials drop mandates on COVID-19 restrictions, the virus continues to circulate throughout Florida, sending increasingly younger people to the hospital at rates that are among the highest in the country.

Overall, the number of people being treated for COVID in Florida hospitals has ticked down over the last two weeks after a slight rise in the beginning of April. About 3,000 Floridians were hospitalized with COVID on Thursday, down about 10% from 3,345 patients on April 23.

But Florida ranks third in the nation for confirmed recent COVID hospital admissions for adults on a per-capita basis, behind only Michigan and Kentucky, according to new federal data analyzed by University of South Florida epidemiologist Jason Salemi. The admissions are concentrated in patients in the working-age bracket between 30 and 50 years old.

That comes as the rate of hospital admissions for older age groups declines, likely because older people are more likely to be fully vaccinated, Salemi and other experts agreed.

The younger skew for hospitalized COVID patients also follows an earlier rise in COVID cases for working-age people in late March. Public health experts tied that rise in infections to Spring Break tourism.

When you have an increases in cases, you tend to have an increase in severe illness, Salemi said.

More than a quarter of confirmed COVID hospital admissions in Florida for the week predating May 1 were among people between 30 and 50 years old, compared to 13% in the week predating Jan. 15.

Behind Florida are Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Georgia, New Jersey, Connecticut and Colorado.

Floridas high hospitalization rate for the younger age brackets matches what Dr. David De La Zerda has been seeing at Miami-Dades public hospital, Jackson Health System. The intensive care unit leader and pulmonologist said COVID patients are averaging between 30 and 50 years old, many of them healthy and without conditions such as obesity or diabetes.

I think its because theyre the last group to get the vaccine, De La Zerda said on Thursday. This age group feels they dont need a vaccine because theyre not going to die from COVID.

But De La Zerda said even if they are less likely to die from the disease than those older than 65, the recovery can take three to four months before the younger patients even start to feel better, and then they still have lasting effects.

We have a bunch of post-COVID patients and theyre young but their lungs look like a pulmonary fibrosis, De La Zerda said. We have to start looking at transplants.
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rivers
07/08/21 11:52:24 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Yes. It's awful. I've tried testosterone, viagra, cutting porn, I'm losing weight, nothing is helping.

Do not catch covid.
How's your sleep?

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pure_temper
07/08/21 11:52:27 AM
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i want a journal, not news

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 11:53:14 AM
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rivers posted...
How's your sleep?
Less good than it used to be, but adequate.

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Awards
07/08/21 11:53:35 AM
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This pure_temper dude sounds like a weird ass paranoid dude who thinks all this is fake or some shit.
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Awards
07/08/21 12:00:59 PM
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And yeah I'm vaccinated. My gf and I both got vaccinated at the same time a while ago.
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tiornys
07/08/21 12:10:16 PM
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pure_temper posted...
source on the prevalence of these outcomes by age group?
https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/ studies-show-long-haul-covid-19-afflicts- 1-in-4-covid-19-patients-regardless-of-severity/2021/03
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Current data shows that over 1 in 4 covid patients have long haul effects. This percentage range holds regardless of patient age, prior risk factors, or severity of the infection.
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Xenozoa425
07/08/21 12:11:38 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Unknown, but probably. I've gotten my blood pressure under control since March, but that hasn't helped my dick either.
If those other methods don't help, you can try taking turmeric and maca powder for a few weeks, or try going on a more alkaline plant-oriented diet to lower endothelial inflammation and increase nitric oxide production.

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DDirtyDastard
07/08/21 12:12:26 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Yes. It's awful. I've tried testosterone, viagra, cutting porn, I'm losing weight, nothing is helping.

Do not catch covid.
Sounds to me like you were well on that path before you caught the virus
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Jiek_Fafn
07/08/21 12:18:33 PM
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I feel like the ED aspect doesn't get the amount if press that it should. It's not an uncommon side effect of contracting covid and yet no one seems to know about it. Lots of folks love their dick and don't want anything to ever happen to it.

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AldousIsDead
07/08/21 12:19:28 PM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
Sounds to me like you were well on that path before you caught the virus
Maybe, but being unhealthy certainly doesn't help the chances of getting long term side effects from covid. My covid likely made existing problems worse.

I had a marked change in heart function afterwards, and I noticed soft erections shortly after that.

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tiornys
07/08/21 12:20:53 PM
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pure_temper posted...
i want a journal, not news
Links from the previous article:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.03.21252086v1

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab103/ 6129932?guestAccessKey=39d1c850-0ae9-469e-9f21-5b7b2c3e6b5e%20%0d%0d
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776560

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CyricZ
07/08/21 12:22:21 PM
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pure_temper posted...
i want a journal, not news
You want an excuse. If you can't find one, you'll make one.

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Funkydog
07/08/21 12:25:11 PM
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Pretty sure rising cases with Delta means you've got to open up quicker and cut benefits to the most vulnerable while telling them everyone to "make their own judgements" and that you aren't following the science.

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ZannoL
07/08/21 12:25:32 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Pretty sure rising cases with Delta means you've got to open up quicker and cut benefits to the most vulnerable while telling them everyone to "make their own judgements" and that you aren't following the science.

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pure_temper
07/08/21 12:28:49 PM
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Thank you @tiornys

i will review during lunch and get back to you

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Funkydog
07/08/21 12:36:11 PM
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ZannoL posted...
I also forgot to add that Boris told us we have to accept more people will die, as if literally nothing he can do and it's out of his hands.

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Xenozoa425
07/08/21 12:37:26 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
I feel like the ED aspect doesn't get the amount if press that it should. It's not an uncommon side effect of contracting covid and yet no one seems to know about it. Lots of folks love their dick and don't want anything to ever happen to it.
Probably because the easiest thing to change to help with ED and other forms of inflammation relating to weight or blood pressure is also, unironically, the hardest for most people.

The diet.

https://youtu.be/fGwTD2cQzVY

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Rapid99
07/08/21 1:02:20 PM
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I never stopped wearing a mask and I didn't expect that would change anytime soon.

Awards posted...
This pure_temper dude sounds like a weird ass paranoid dude who thinks all this is fake or some shit.

It's Proudclad so not surprising.

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FL81
07/08/21 1:16:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure I caught COVID early on when it first hit in my county, but I didn't have any lasting side-effects

Still got the vaccine when it became available

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Unclover028
07/08/21 1:30:06 PM
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Going to be a lot of dead conservatives/anti-vaxxers in the coming days or weeks.
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PoundGarden
07/08/21 1:35:52 PM
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ChopinList posted...
I think majority of the unvaccinated already made their decisions and nothing said on forums or by politicians will change their mind.

My stepdads best friend died of Covid last March. 6'5, 270 lbs bog strong dude. He literally died on the phone calling 911 because he was too stupid to admit Covid is real and wouldn't even go to the hospital until he was at deaths door. Left behind a wife and 4 kids.

My idiot fucking step-dad still thinks Covid is a government hoax and will not get vaccinated. You can't fix these people.

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TheVipaGTS
07/08/21 1:37:06 PM
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Thanks to Republicans and Dumbass Trump this will be a regular thing. The morons wont get vaccinated. Theyll allow this to spread and get stronger. Its fuckin bull shit.

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PatrickMahomes
07/08/21 1:40:26 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
My stepdads best friend died of Covid last March. 6'5, 270 lbs bog strong dude. He literally died on the phone calling 911 because he was too stupid to admit Covid is real and wouldn't even go to the hospital until he was at deaths door. Left behind a wife and 4 kids.

My idiot fucking step-dad still thinks Covid is a government hoax and will not get vaccinated. You can't fix these people.
wtf does he think killed his friend, the government?

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PoundGarden
07/08/21 1:44:42 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
wtf does he think killed his friend, the government?

The flu, obviously

We don't talk about it, he's infuriating with his MAGA conspiracy bullshit. Especially since he's a truck driver and I'm like "please don't bring Covid home and kill my fucking mother, to own the libs"

My mom isn't much better but she at least believes Covid is real. Finally convinced her to get her shot, im driving her there myself tomorrow.

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Zazabar
07/08/21 1:54:19 PM
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As much as I would love another shutdown to stay working from home, that ain't happening again anytime soon.

I have no source but my spotty intuition.

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CADE FOSTER
07/08/21 1:56:11 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Thanks to Republicans and Dumbass Trump this will be a regular thing. The morons wont get vaccinated. Theyll allow this to spread and get stronger. Its fuckin bull shit.
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DarkRoast
07/08/21 2:00:04 PM
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I can say for certain I've admitted more covid-19 patients in the past couple of days that I have in the last 4 months

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