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gna647
06/28/21 11:28:04 AM
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The series couldve been like Star Wars, Harry Potter, lord of the rings, Star Trek etc with a HUGE cult following and making billions of merchandise and extended media alone.

Now literally no one gives a fuck about GOT

but Ive never seen a show die so fast because of a horrible ending. Its honestly fucking amazing. You have to TRY to ruin a show that had such a big following.

i wouldnt hire D&D to work at McDonalds


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06/28/21 11:30:01 AM
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You dont own a McDonalds
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Derwood
06/28/21 11:31:16 AM
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The same people who wrote the episodes that people love also wrote the episodes that people hate. The haters pretend that the first part isnt true
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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:31:32 AM
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"No one cares about this thing i'm talking about, right guys, DAE hate D&D for not holding GRRM hostage and making him finish writing the books. THOSE FUCKING HACKS!!!!" ~ op

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Tyranthraxus
06/28/21 11:31:43 AM
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gna647 posted...
The series couldve been like Star Wars
Ah yeah that series known for producing so many prolific actors like Harrison Ford and.... Uh....

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AceWingsta
06/28/21 11:32:35 AM
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Same with HIMYM and their syndication numbers.

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Robot2600
06/28/21 11:34:36 AM
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honestly it was the 2 seasons before the final season that ruined the show.

final season wasn't bad.

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MixedRaceBaby
06/28/21 11:36:13 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
honestly it was the 2 seasons before the final season that ruined the show.

final season wasn't bad.
Said no one ever

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DeadBankerDream
06/28/21 11:36:59 AM
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What if Elden Ring is set in the GoT universe and they're already pre-producing the tv show?

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Robot2600
06/28/21 11:37:49 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
Said no one ever

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I've been saying it all along, but by all means continue repeating what the blogosphere says is true.

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BeyondWalls
06/28/21 11:39:07 AM
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Ending was that bad. Its not like it was The 100.

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:40:23 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Ah yeah that series known for producing so many prolific actors like Harrison Ford and.... Uh....


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krazychao5
06/28/21 11:40:36 AM
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they were stumbling in the last few seasons and anyone who didn't expect a crash landing to end the series was not paying attention

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PatrickMahomes
06/28/21 11:41:07 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
I've been saying it all along, but by all means continue repeating what the blogosphere says is true.

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/28/21 11:41:53 AM
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screw those two dipshits. its pretty clear where their priorities were...
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Mearcstapa
06/28/21 11:41:58 AM
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I don't watch that naruto crap

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:42:34 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
screw those two dipshits. its pretty clear where their priorities were...

you know GRRM is one person right, 4 initials, still one person.

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Polycosm
06/28/21 11:42:35 AM
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but Ive never seen a show die so fast

Pretty much every show, movie, or video game drops off the map once they've concluded. People will talk about GoT again when there's new material to talk about.

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Gobstoppers12
06/28/21 11:43:27 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Ah yeah that series known for producing so many prolific actors like Harrison Ford and.... Uh....
Are you seriously trying to downplay the significance of Star Wars right now, or is this some kind of meme?

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/28/21 11:44:52 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
you know GRRM is one person right, 4 initials, still one person.

i was refering to Weiss and Benioff aka Tweedlefuck and Tweedledipshit...
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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:45:17 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Are you seriously trying to downplay the significance of Star Wars right now, or is this some kind of meme?

or you could use the logic of a 3 year old and go, "yeah star wars survived the preqeuls and sequels, game of thrones will survive a tv show poorly executing the ending grrm can't figure out a way to make sense of so he keeps writing anything but winds of winter"

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:46:00 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...


i was refering to Weiss and Benioff aka Tweedlefuck and Tweedledipshit...

oh TIL Weiss and Benoiff wrote a song of ice and fire and couldn't finish it because they wrote themselves into a corner. Weird, so what does GRRM do?

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Shablagoo
06/28/21 11:46:35 AM
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They dont care lol. David Benioff is the son of a former Goldman Sachs CEO (ever wondered how a guy with no experience or education in television got the job of showrunning GoT? Yeah.) and they made plenty of bank slowly destroying this piece of art.

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Smashingpmkns
06/28/21 11:46:54 AM
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I don't really care about the spin offs. The series started to suck long before the final season imo.
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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:47:18 AM
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the piece of art that doesn't exist because grrm still hasn't been able to figure out how to end it?

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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/28/21 11:47:25 AM
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I think people think that the internet noise about the ending makes things bigger than it actually is.
People will complain about the ending of that one show but still go on to do things like listen to Imagine Dragons.

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krazychao5
06/28/21 11:49:30 AM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
im so fucking ready for the harry potter reboots
i want HP and GoT to be animated series. magic deserves to be fantastical, and live action often cannot capture the wonders of the worlds made in the books

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Shablagoo
06/28/21 11:51:21 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
the piece of art that doesn't exist because grrm still hasn't been able to figure out how to end it?

5 expertly woven books dont exist?? what lol

I appreciate GRRs prose and story crafting. It doesnt have to be finished for me to consider the beauty in the tapestry.

Smashingpmkns posted...
I don't really care about the spin offs. The series started to suck long before the final season imo.

Yeah season 4 was the last good season and even that had missteps. D&D said they really only wanted to do Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice & Fire SPOILERS the Red Wedding and it shows.


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Opisseus
06/28/21 11:51:21 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
honestly it was the 2 seasons before the final season that ruined the show.

final season wasn't bad.
Final season was absolute trash, just like everything else after 4

I watched the entire show in the span of like 9 days. Never seen such in insanely fast drop in quality. It gave me whiplash

But 8 was still the worst by a lot

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 11:53:46 AM
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Shablagoo posted...


5 expertly woven books dont exist?

and no one complains about their adaptation of those 5 books. They complain about once they ran out of books to adapt. And whose fault is it that they had nothing to adapt.
Shablagoo posted...
It doesnt have to be finished for me to consider the beauty in the tapestry.

and yet

Shablagoo posted...
and they made plenty of bank slowly destroying this piece of art.


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krazychao5
06/28/21 11:58:25 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
and no one complains about their adaptation of those 5 books. They complain about once they ran out of books to adapt. And whose fault is it that they had nothing to adapt.
i complain. Book 4 and 5 were hardly in the show. Dorne was....an abomination that was aborted one week after conception. No fAegon and Golden Company storyline. No Northern Rebellion storyline. No LSH :(

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i think movies 1 and 2 were good, but everything after that was lame. magic was just green and red lightning. there was no magic, just dbz like energy blasts. there was nothing really magical after movie 3 in the movies. and each movie just had a darker filter applied to it. everyone dressed like muggles. no style. no substance.

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Tyranthraxus
06/28/21 11:59:53 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Are you seriously trying to downplay the significance of Star Wars right now, or is this some kind of meme?

If anything you're downplaying the success of GoT. The reason nobody is talking about GoT (which is false, the discussion is just lower than historical highs) is because there's no new content. Disney pushes new Star Wars content on the regular so there's always new things to discuss.

But I was mostly addressing your comment of the money on the table. Star Wars was only ever lucrative for the producers. Most everyone else involved only did average. And that's across all three eras. And in that context GoT matches Star Wars.

People already massively successful prior to casting notwithstanding (Samuel, Liam)

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Shablagoo
06/28/21 12:02:00 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
and no one complains about their adaptation of those 5 books. They complain about once they ran out of books to adapt. And whose fault is it that they had nothing to adapt.

Ok so you havent read the books.

and yet

yeah D&D are garbage what of it

krazychao5 posted...
i complain. Book 4 and 5 were hardly in the show. Dorne was....an abomination that was aborted one week after conception. No fAegon and Golden Company storyline. No Northern Rebellion storyline. No LSH :(

this.

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 12:05:56 PM
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Shablagoo posted...


yeah D&D are garbage what of it

I Like Toast posted...


oh TIL Weiss and Benoiff wrote a song of ice and fire and couldn't finish it because they wrote themselves into a corner. Weird, so what does GRRM do?

Shablagoo posted...


Ok so you havent read the books.

Thanks for admitting you're talking out of your ass and want to blame D&D for GRRM not being able to write, still, all these years after the show has been over.

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krazychao5
06/28/21 12:10:10 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
blame that on direction. A poorly directed animated movie will miss the mark on that front as well
but it was 6 movies that sucked that spanned what, 4 or 5 directors?

it's the source material that is difficult and expensive to create in live action. the real fun magic stuff would take too much money so they just do power beams. and change the world, like allow the wizards to just fly around. like..wtf

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puppy
06/28/21 12:13:50 PM
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I was hooked until halfway through the 2nd to last season in GOT. I could tell the snarkiness of Tyrion was gone, I guess since they stopped referencing the book, and the characters just became dull. It had such potential, and was engrossing with great graphics, but they got lazy and wanted to move on to another project.

What's funny is if they dug their heels in and really delivered an amazing ending, then they would be able to do whatever project they want for the next 10+ years. Now they are bums.

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Gobstoppers12
06/28/21 12:14:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
If anything you're downplaying the success of GoT
I have done no such thing, lol. GoT is a gargantuan success that continues to make money for HBO via its availability on HBO Max and home media.

I didn't hate the ending, either. I just thought it was odd that you were seemingly trying to downplay the phenomenal success and reach of Star Wars lol

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berlyman101
06/28/21 12:16:53 PM
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it really is crazy how much the ending makes or breaks the legacy of a series. I'd even say that a good last episode can salvage a bad last season, like with Parks and Recreation.

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Zikten
06/28/21 12:17:18 PM
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I blame the unknown star wars movies that got canceled. They wanted to quickly wrap up GoT and start work on their star War trilogy. HBO even said they could do more seasons to properly end the show but those D and D guys said no, we want to be done

But then everyone hated the ending and the star wars trilogy got canceled. So in the end they fucked up all around
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Boombam99
06/28/21 12:18:36 PM
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GRRM deserves more blame than he gets for the way things turned out, but no one ever blames him
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Shablagoo
06/28/21 12:20:08 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Thanks for admitting you're talking out of your ass and want to blame D&D for GRRM not being able to write, still, all these years after the show has been over.

Youre just wrong and clearly havent read the series. Like the other guy said, books 4 & 5 were hardly in the show and the bits that made it in were butchered anyway. Not to mention, the sample chapters from Winds lay a nice blueprint for what would come.

HBO should have handed the reins to other showrunners once D&D gave up completely (around season 4).

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Tyranthraxus
06/28/21 12:20:39 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I have done no such thing, lol. GoT is a gargantuan success that continues to make money for HBO via its availability on HBO Max and home media.

I didn't hate the ending, either. I just thought it was odd that you were seemingly trying to downplay the phenomenal success and reach of Star Wars lol
Ah right that was gna who said that. MB

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I Like Toast
06/28/21 12:21:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
They wanted to quickly wrap up GoT and start work on their star War trilogy

except this has been proven false multiple times and they weren't approached until after they decided they wanted to hurry GoT because they saw GRRM wasn't going to write and there was no point in stalling it out any further since people were going to hate anything they did.

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