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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 8:37:31 PM #51: |
Sorry, guys. I give up. This shit goes back a decade across multiple forums. I just can't sort it all. I can tell you to search "Byuu" if you want to read it all yourself. Most of Kiwi Farms is claiming that this is fake and Byuu is lying. Their main evidence seems to be that they find it strange somebody was typing out a google document instead of calling the police. They seem to think he'll show up again in a week talking about a "near miss." I don't believe that. I think this is probably real.
All I can say with certainty is this is what happens when groups of mentally ill people clash. Byuu certainly had his share of problems and drama, depending on who you ask. He seems to have pissed off various people in the emulation community over the years (including the retroarch people), especially in terms of money. He was clearly unhappy with his life in terms of his career goals, personal goals, and his sexuality. He was also clearly interested in transitioning, furry porn, and defending that lolicon bullshit. That made him an easy target for Kiwi Farms. In terms of what Kiwi Farms did or didn't do? I can't fucking say. The shit spreads across multiple forums and into every corner of the internet. It's not like this was limited to just the Kiwi Farms website. The Kiwi thread clearly bothered Byuu and he had threatened to sue the owner if he didn't take it down. But, it wasn't a popular thread. It was only 13 pages and nearly dead. But it's mere existence seemed to drive Byuu crazy. I've read some stuff about doxing, etc. I don't think there was some giant effort by Kiwi Farms to destroy this guy, but it is likely that one or two of it's members kept pushing this clearly mentally ill man every chance they got. It doesn't seem like Kiwi Farm was "going after" Byuu per say (although maybe a few of their posters might have), but they are giving a home to assholes to congregate and feed off their own bullshit. They certainly seem to show no remorse for any of this. The site should probably be shut down just to break these people up. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/27/21 8:41:48 PM #52: |
Yea I agree. Shut kiwi farms down. And if any individual poster cam be linked directly to the harassment, arrest them
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 8:46:31 PM #53: |
BeyondWalls posted...
I think Kiwi Farms cataloguing his fights was a source of anxiety, but I don't know if I'd say he was "targeted" by them. But I'm only one page in.Been reading. It's odd. The thread only accumulated about 200 post over a period of 3 years, he himself participated in said thread and was actually received rather well. When people talk about drama he was involved in they keep linking to threads on 4chan, so it seems it's on 4chan all the bad stuff was happening and Kiwi Farms mostly just talked about it, some disparagingly, some supportingly. Then out of nowhere the owner of Kiwi Farms gets an email from him offering him 120000 dollars to take down the thread "or I'll commit suicide" and posts the email in the thread and the thread gets about 1000 posts over the course of a single day. What the hell happened here? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 8:51:56 PM #54: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Been reading. It's odd. The thread only accumulated about 200 post over a period of 3 years, he himself participated in said thread and was actually received rather well. When people talk about drama he was involved in they keep linking to threads on 4chan, so it seems it's on 4chan all the bad stuff was happening and Kiwi Farms mostly just talked about it, some disparagingly, some supportingly. Then out of nowhere the owner of Kiwi Farms gets an email from him offering him 120000 dollars to take down the thread "or I'll commit suicide" and posts the email in the thread and the thread gets about 1000 posts over the course of a single day. What the hell happened here?I don't know. That's about where I gave up. Stuff was going on in emails, Reddit, 4Chan, Twitter, etc. It's impossible to sort out. The RetroArch guys accused him of several mental illnesses. Who knows what's true though? That's actually one of the points Byuu was trying to make at one point. I think Byuu was probably an unstable person being pushed by unstable people. Kiwi should probably be shut down just to break that group up. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 06/27/21 8:52:36 PM #55: |
That's so sad. :(
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 8:57:33 PM #56: |
BeyondWalls posted...
I don't know. That's about where I gave up. Stuff was going on in emails, Reddit, 4Chan, Twitter, etc. It's impossible to sort out. The RetroArch guys accused him of several mental illnesses. Who knows what's true though? That's actually one of the points Byuu was trying to make at one point.I just find it so weird, because by the looks of the early pages in that thread it seems the people on Kiwi Farms mostly liked the guy. It got worse in the last couple of pages before the explosion where apparently he had started talking about depression and stuff where some people said things like "I hope he at least finishes the N64 emulator before killing himself" and stuff like that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 9:04:26 PM #57: |
CyricZ posted...
That's so sad. :( From 2014... It's doubly sad that this dude felt he had accomplished nothing but "computer programming" when I'd kill to have half his talent. It's a shame that he never gave his skills more credit. He got so hung up on what he wasn't that he never recognized the amazing stuff he did accomplish. I use his emulator myself and I personally owe him for the joy he brought to my life. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 9:15:34 PM #58: |
This whole e-mail chain is just utterly deranged. Can't screencap it all because there's too much of it.
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matchboxsantana 06/27/21 9:22:33 PM #59: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
This whole e-mail chain is just utterly deranged. Can't screencap it all because there's too much of it. so this guy hosted content doxing near, doxing his friend, accusing him of horrible things, and then upon hearing near would do what he did he pretended to be a man of morals who doesn't want to be extorted and who fears the wrath of God? What a hypocrite. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/27/21 9:27:08 PM #60: |
Fuck that site owner
Poor Near basically says "goodbye. I am going to die now" And his reply is "I will not be extorted " Such a piece of shit. People should never let this go for the rest of his life. Hopefully his site get shut down ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 9:29:00 PM #61: |
matchboxsantana posted...
so this guy hosted content doxing near, doxing his friend, accusing him of horrible thingsSee, here's the weirdest thing of all; from what I can see the thread didn't contain any dox. Just links to his official website and social media. EDIT: Re-reading the e-mail, Byuu himself said the dox were uploaded to pastebin and posted on 4chan. It's kinda odd nobody put them on Kiwi Farms in that case considering their fondness for dox, but I'm over a dozen pages in and I still haven't found anyone posting them. Everything about this is just so weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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matchboxsantana 06/27/21 9:29:11 PM #62: |
Zikten posted...
Fuck that site owner First he did the usual GOP voter thing when they claim their strong, wholesome morals don't allow them to right a fucking horrible and immoral thing they have done, and then when it didn't work and he was scared as fuck he said he'd not be extorted because he thought it'd be good for his defense. Who leaked the emails? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 9:29:58 PM #63: |
matchboxsantana posted...
Who leaked the emails?The owner of Kiwi Farms. He posted them in the thread in question, on page 14 I think. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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matchboxsantana 06/27/21 9:30:18 PM #64: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The owner of Kiwi Farms. that sounds like a dumb move ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 9:30:34 PM #65: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
https://i.imgur.com/PUpwtAv.pngWhat's sad is that Null (the owner of Kiwi farms) will feel no remorse over this at all if it's true. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 06/27/21 9:32:15 PM #66: |
He has had that we will not be censored response every time his user base does something bad, this is nothing new
basically nothing will happen to them most likely --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LanaDurant 06/27/21 9:34:35 PM #67: |
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 9:40:12 PM #68: |
I hate to say this, but.... just to play devil's advocate for a moment... It's possible Byuu was trying to set Null up on blackmail charges. Because I think if Null agreed to destroy damning evidence against Byuu in exchange for money then that qualifies as blackmail. Right? It's possible that when the blackmail scheme didn't work then Byuu fell back on his fake-suicide-disappearance plan.
I'm not saying that happened, but that's probably the theory Kiwi Farms will push. At this point I honestly don't know if this was a final plea from a man at the end of his rope or a cooked up revenge scheme against his tormentors. I don't think we'll ever know unless we get more information. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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matchboxsantana 06/27/21 9:43:26 PM #69: |
BeyondWalls posted...
I hate to say this, but.... just to play devil's advocate for a moment... It's possible Byuu was trying to set Null up on blackmail charges. Because I think if Null agreed to destroy damning evidence against Byuu in exchange for money then that qualifies as blackmail. Right? It's possible that when the blackmail scheme didn't work then Byuu fell back on his fake-suicide-disappearance plan. I am no expert, but I think that's not how it works. Blackmail is something like saying "I have pictured of you cheating on your wife. Give me X or do Y or I will release them". Bribery is "I will give you (money or thing) if you do X". but bribery only applies to certain people, e.g. judges in a contest, govt officials, etc, not randos who own message boards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 9:47:08 PM #70: |
matchboxsantana posted...
I am no expert, but I think that's not how it works.I don't know. I think it qualifies as blackmail, extortion, or something. Because then all Byuu has to say is that Kiwi Farms is collecting damning documents against people and harassing them unless they pay high sums of money. Then Kiwi Farms will stop and delete the documents. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 06/27/21 9:47:57 PM #71: |
BeyondWalls posted...
I'm not saying that happened, but that's probably the theory Kiwi Farms will push.So far it looks like a mix of people either believing he's not dead or that he killed himself because he's been depressed and suicidal for years and it was only a matter of time. I've been spending way too much time reading through that thread. I need to go do something more productive. The past several pages I've read have all pretty much been the same anyway. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 06/27/21 9:50:36 PM #72: |
All I had to see was Kiwi Farms in a post and that tells me all I need to know. I just found out about that site a few years ago and wish I didn't know about it
One of the worst things I have ever seen involving forums. Sad people literally compiling info by stalking others through all corners of their life ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil_Bit83 06/27/21 10:43:01 PM #73: |
How pathetic and worthless and petty do you have to be to dedicate a website solely to harass people?
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LanaDurant 06/27/21 11:00:01 PM #74: |
Lil_Bit83 posted...
How pathetic and worthless and petty do you have to be to dedicate a website solely to harass people? @Tails82 @mrgoatthief --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/27/21 11:10:03 PM #75: |
The honest truth is, I've been bullied, ridiculed, and humiliated my entire life. From my earliest grade school memories to now. It's always hurt me deeply enough that I can't describe it in words. I could only just tolerate it with heavy depression when it was 4chan. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MegamanX299 06/29/21 11:19:34 AM #77: |
ZSNES is best
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Solid Sonic 06/29/21 11:21:06 AM #78: |
MegamanX299 posted...
ZSNES is best bsnes is the best one because it's no different from a real SNES, warts and all. It's the most distilled definition of "emulation". --- It is more important to use your anonymity to upset other people than it is to do anything productive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 06/29/21 11:22:34 AM #79: |
Casual reminder there's multiple users on here who gleefully post on kiwi farms and condone this
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Rapid99 06/29/21 1:25:24 PM #80: |
ultimate reaver posted...
He has had that we will not be censored response every time his user base does something bad, this is nothing new He's even had people doxx him, doxx family members, and get his mother fired from her job, and he still doesn't give a shit. You know you've failed as a human being when Moot has more self respect than you. --- Formerly Smidge | The last ASCII artist. https://gfascii.art/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/29/21 4:32:53 PM #81: |
So was anyone able to confirm this?
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Artemis86 06/29/21 7:38:39 PM #82: |
BeyondWalls posted...
So was anyone able to confirm this? Just lots of people hoping it isnt true, nothing concrete. If the follow-up tweet about talking to the authorities was true, its likely a false hope they hold out for. I guess its nice that at least Near got a nice outpouring of love and support. If I checked out like he did, no one would give a fuck anywhere. Hell, extra shitty places like this one might even celebrate. If they somehow knew anyway. In truth, most people have oblivion to look forward to, I'm hardly unique in that. Itd sure be nice if we could not be shitty to each other at least until the void takes us. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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STEROLIZER 06/30/21 12:56:14 AM #83: |
Solid Sonic posted...
Please stop insulting 4chan, I spend a lot of time there. @Solid_Sonic --- ---./|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/30/21 12:59:34 AM #84: |
Kiwi Farms is DOWN!
They're under attack! Hello! Some hack activist has had enough! --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 06/30/21 1:01:02 AM #85: |
BeyondWalls posted...
Kiwi Farms is <u>DOWN!</u> Good. Hopefully they are never able to get back up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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STEROLIZER 06/30/21 3:20:42 AM #87: |
Solid Sonic posted...
https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1409176583433179137 I just got done reading this. I cried. I know what it's like to lose an online friend to suicide. They are so close, yet you are so far. Thats the origin of signature by the way, if anyone ever wondered why I rock it. https://youtu.be/AgYkrDQYeZg --- ---./|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_........................Love is like a bottle of gin ---( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-,..............But a bottle of gin is not like love. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 06/30/21 3:29:16 AM #88: |
yusiko posted...
According to the reddit thread I read this on near did ignore them for awhile but then they started doxxing his friends and family which was a major factor in nears suicideJesus wept, wth --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 06/30/21 3:35:41 AM #90: |
The fuck
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catboy 06/30/21 4:12:00 AM #91: |
never used bsnes myself mostly ZSNES and lately SNES9x, but really sad to hear
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SomeLikeItHoth 06/30/21 4:28:42 AM #92: |
Here's a few things I don't understand that maybe some people can clear up.
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BeyondWalls 06/30/21 11:20:27 AM #94: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
What is Nears real name? If he was getting doxxed like he claims, then it should be all over the placeKiwi Farms official statement says the doxxing is a lie. That no one knows Nears last name and that hes completely anonymous. Thats why no one can confirm if hes alive or dead. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Badmotorfinger 06/30/21 11:22:13 AM #95: |
Lol. "Kiwi Farms official statement says the doxxing is a lie"
Do you seriously think they're going to admit that doxxing is taking place on their forum. Use your brain for five seconds ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/30/21 11:36:43 AM #96: |
Badmotorfinger posted...
Lol. "Kiwi Farms official statement says the doxxing is a lie"I have to admit that Kiwi Farms makes a compelling argument. No evidence can be found of anyone doxxing Byuu and the only evidence he died is coming from one google document with a dubious story. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ardbert 06/30/21 11:38:14 AM #97: |
im still holding out hope he's not dead and it's an elaborate stunt to go off the grid.
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Rimmer_Dall 06/30/21 11:55:49 AM #98: |
Badmotorfinger posted...
Do you seriously think they're going to admit that doxxing is taking place on their forum.Err... yes. They do. All the time. The thing is, you can actually look at the thread itself right now and see there's no dox there. You can look at old external archives of the thread too and see there never were any dox there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Korey 06/30/21 12:10:42 PM #100: |
yusiko posted...
According to the reddit thread I read this on near did ignore them for awhile but then they started doxxing his friends and family which was a major factor in nears suicide Fucking garbage --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 06/30/21 12:13:53 PM #101: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
so let me get this straight. this person suffered abuse and harassment their whole life, but managed to hang on despite all of that. and then after the "psychological scars of late 2020", they got help and "found medication".... and then within months ended up committing suicide?I wouldnt try to dissect this story until we get confirmation its true. Im leaning toward the idea that Byuu just wanted to disappear off the internet and quickly concocted this plan to get some revenge on the way out the door. I think hes still alive. That being said, the fact that Kiwi Farms would drive anyone to fake their own death is a problem in itself. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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