Current Events > Newsmax melts down after student says 'One Nation Under Allah' during pledge

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https://www.mediamatters.org/newsmax/newsmax-guest-calls-high-school-student-who-said-allah-during-pledge-allegiance-be

ALISON MALONI (HOST): Well, in addition to all the social media comments, the segment grabbed the attention left-leaning organization Media Matters for America. The article posted some nasty comments here to "Newsmax panel melts down over high school students saying 'Allah' during the Pledge of Allegiance," that's what that article said. I don't think there was any sort of meltdown at all, but that's what, you know, clickbait. So we had a guest on yesterday, Mark Vargas, and he said it's "un-American, it's unpatriotic, and it's, quite frankly, upsetting."
Joining us now to discuss is the man accused of melting down. GOP strategist Mark Vargas. Mark, so you woke up to a lot of comments, a lot of tweets, a lot of, you know about you about the segment. Tell us what have you been hearing?
MARK VARGAS (GUEST): Well you know, this is what the left does. They want to belittle and degrade and mock your service to our country all because you're trying to defend our Pledge of Allegiance. But yesterday, I said it was un-American and unpatriotic. It's also illegal and in violation of federal and state laws. And I'm calling on the state attorney general to look into this. You know, the laws are very clear. You can respectfully decline to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, but you cannot recite it and alter the words and use -- pull out God and say whatever you'd like. And so, again, I think it's important. It's unpatriotic, it's un-American, and it's also illegal. And I think the state attorney general ought to look into this.
BOB SELLERS (HOST): You know, it's interesting that somebody said if it didn't matter that it said "under God," that person -- that student wouldn't have said what she said. So it kind of, by definition, says that it matters that it says "under God" because that's part of the entire pledge, and she was trying to change the meaning of it by changing those words. Otherwise, you can just throw any word you want in there.
VARGAS: That's right, and I think that's why the state attorney general needs to look into this because they need to be crystal clear that you cannot alter or change the words of the Pledge of Allegiance. And, again, this is not the Democratic Party of John Kennedy. This is not the Democratic Party of Franklin D. Roosevelt. And this is not the Democratic Party of Harry Truman. They loved America. And now you've got the left going completely crazy because you're defending the words of the Pledge of Allegiance.
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VARGAS: I am not calling on this young student to be prosecuted, but I think we need to send a very clear message any way we can. And I think that looking in -- having a state attorney general's office or a district attorney look into this, I think that sends the message.
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SELLERS: And not to insult Islam, by the way. That wasn't the point.

Freedom of speech*

*except in regards to the Pledge of Allegiance.

Lmao these people are nutters.

In high school I didn't recite the pledge. I did stand though, just to not draw attention by sitting.

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praise allah

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One Nation under Kanye
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God these Republican idiots

half a nation under trump

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freedom of speech until it upsets them then the government needs to make arrests...

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They claim we are a nation of freedom yet they don't want us to have the freedom to not say the pledge the exact way they want

good, hope he cries into his pillow some more

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aIHIm7H8zU

There is no law that forces the pledge on highschool students anyways. They can say whatever the fuck they want.

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How delusional do you have to be to think people busy with actual issues like a states attorney general would even give this a look is weird

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It's always funny when you tell these kinds of people that Allah and the Christian God are the same entity, and you can visibly tell the gears in their head have stopped turning.
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ToadallyAwesome posted...

How delusional do you have to be to think people busy with actual issues like a states attorney general would even give this a look is weird

Its food for their audience. "America will BE TOUGH on those who dare question us!"

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if it wasnt for the us flag you'd think this is ww2 germany. us is a weird place.

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ModLogic posted...

if it wasnt for the us flag you'd think this is ww2 germany. us is a weird place.

Tbh you'd think it'd be conservatives who'd balk at the idea of the government demanding you pledge allegiance to it

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This nation's obsession over a glaring aspect of fascism will never not be hilarious.

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my amusement comes from the people who argue back and forth with these simpletons, and get upset enough to have a meltdown over it.

I've seen people factually correct making me not even want to co-sign lmao.
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wackyteen posted...

And I think the state attorney general ought to look into this.

Lmao.

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If you bring up a law in an argument you are bound to cite the law

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Looking back on elementary school and being forced to pledge allegiance to the country and to God is really pretty cringy when I think about it. It's the kind of thing you would expect to hear from North Korea or Iran or something. As a child I just did what I was told and didn't really understand the words I was saying, but now as an adult it's pretty horrifying.

Good countries don't have to indoctrinate their children into pledging allegiance. They do it willingly out of pride and gratitude. Just sayin'.

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I live in a red state, & we stopped doing the pledge long before high school.

wackyteen posted...

VARGAS: That's right, and I think that's why the state attorney general needs to look into this because they need to be crystal clear that you cannot alter or change the words of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Wait, they do know "Under God" wasn't in the pledge of allegiance and they inserted it into there as part of anti communist propaganda during the cold war?

Anyway, forcing kids to say a pledge is creepy and weird

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Once I got in high school I stopped standing and saying it.

I dont pledge my allegiance to shit. Especially under a god.

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All religion is dumb

nexigrams posted...

Looking back on elementary school and being forced to pledge allegiance to the country and to God is really pretty cringy when I think about it. It's the kind of thing you would expect to hear from North Korea or Iran or something. As a child I just did what I was told and didn't really understand the words I was saying, but now as an adult it's pretty horrifying.

Good countries don't have to indoctrinate their children into pledging allegiance. They do it willingly out of pride and gratitude. Just sayin'.

imagine saying that only to be called crazy and unpatriotic by your peers. then trying to explain it to them using real life examples, but they keep interrupting and misconstruing everything you're saying because they're too offended to try to understand.
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wackyteen posted...

Tbh you'd think it'd be conservatives who'd balk at the idea of the government demanding you pledge allegiance to it

Conservatives pay lip service to the idea of small government but in reality are very pro big gov (as long as its big in the ways they approve of)

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Literally everything is dIsReSpEcTiNg ThE tRoOpS with these people

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Smashingpmkns posted...

One Nation under Kanye

This should be the new official wording.

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Cpt_Pineapple posted...

Allah these Republican idiots

lol
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Wait, they do know "Under God" wasn't in the pledge of allegiance and they inserted it into there as part of anti communist propaganda during the cold war?

Anyway, forcing kids to say a pledge is creepy and weird

Bet they don't know that. They don't care. And if you told them, they'd be "well they just corrected an oversight in the original pledge"


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year of our lord 2021 and people still don't understand that all abrahamic religions basically worship the same god despite having different terminology and conceptual nuances

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Isn't Allah literally just mean god in like, arabic or something? so the kid hasn't even changed the words.

In Canada we have to stand up for the National Anthem, but the whole song is way less "only America" and you don't have to like, sing it. Plus 1/2 is in French.

Allah is literally just the arabic word for god...

...this is like melting down about El Pollo Loco.

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Proto_Spark posted...

Isn't Allah literally just mean god in like, arabic or something?

Yes. Literally what Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews call god too

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My school didn't have us do that in high school. In fact, I think the last time I even said the pledge was in middle school.

My friends and I would make up the words to it because that's the funniest thing you can do when you're 13.

Freedom of religion!!1!

Wait only MY religion !

TheMikh posted...

year of our lord 2021 and people still don't understand that all abrahamic religions basically worship the same god despite having different terminology and conceptual nuances

It's about racism, really. the mentality that you'd better be grateful we let you sully our great white nation and you need to prop up our most dogmatic traditions to have a voice.

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I leave out the god part.

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I like this pledge more
https://youtu.be/ml691SXt7a8
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