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So how could Loki have been killed by Thanos if he took the tesseract to an alternate timeline?

That means in the sacred timeline no Loki would exist to be killed by Thanks in the future.

That's the issue why the TVA took him in. I presume the ending of the show will explain how a time paradox didn't occur. At least hopefully.

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Okay thats what Im hoping too just wanted to make sure I didnt miss something.

BakonBitz posted...

That's the issue why the TVA took him in. I presume the ending of the show will explain how a time paradox didn't occur. At least hopefully.

It did occur. They had to reset that timeline.

But them resetting that timeline didnt fix the sacred timeline as Loki would still be missing from that one.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79503599/954965483

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The show is so badly written there's no point asking these questions

The answer is just "Well the giant space faces wanted it that way...somehow"

Anyone familar with talking to religious folk will recongize the bullshit

"Well it's wrong to be gay because God says so. Why does God say that.... Well.... God says so. Don't question god. He says so! So that's why. No explanation needed!"

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Bleuets posted...

But them resetting that timeline didnt fix the sacred timeline as Loki would still be missing from that one.

Theres probably multiple Loki running around because he got ahold of the Tesseract. The Loki in the sacred timeline is already dead. Thats the timeline the Avengers return to, so nothing changes about Loki being gone. The Loki in the show is the one who escaped with the Tesseract and caused the Avengers to actually enter a new timeline, leaving that one totally messed up.

Bleuets posted...

But them resetting that timeline didnt fix the sacred timeline as Loki would still be missing from that one.

Yes it did. When they reset a time line, they are resetting the sacred time line and making sure it happens the way it is supposed to. They likely have to reset every single millisecond of the sacred time line infinitely to insure it happens the way it is supposed to.

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Bleuets posted...

no Loki would exist to be killed by Thanks in the future.

Why, you never heard of killing dem with kindness??

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UnfairRepresent posted...

The show is so badly written there's no point asking these questions

The answer is just "Well the giant space faces wanted it that way...somehow"

Anyone familar with talking to religious folk will recongize the bullshit

"Well it's wrong to be gay because God says so. Why does God say that.... Well.... God says so. Don't question god. He says so! So that's why. No explanation needed!"

It is explained pretty clearly and if you are any good at extrapolating data based on the information you are given, it is pretty clear...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

When they reset a time line, they are resetting the sacred time line and making sure it happens the way it is supposed to. They likely have to reset every single millisecond of the sacred time line infinitely to insure it happens the way it is supposed to.

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....thought it was pretty clear by the end of the episode that they were hunting him precisely because he is a variant (aka someone being hunted for diverging from the set path). >_>

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BakonBitz posted...

That's the issue why the TVA took him in. I presume the ending of the show will explain how a time paradox didn't occur. At least hopefully.

It's not a paradox, it just created an alternate timeline. The TVA doesn't like alternate timelines, so it took Loki and used that reset device to completely destroy that alternate timeline.

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Endgame already addressed it though.

Loki died in the main timeline of IW/Endgame.

Loki taking the Tesseract creates an alternate timeline where he escapes but that doesn't change the main timeline. The Ancient One addresses this when talking to Bruce about why she can't give him the Time Stone and alter the timeline. Then Bruce points out they can just come back and drop it off so it's functionally like it never left.

Also, Bruce points out when talking to Scott, Hawkeye, and Rhodes that going back in time doesn't change events that already happened to you because the old timeline you're visiting is also technically your present/future and taking actions in that time can't change your past. It's not great 10/10 writing but it's somewhat consistent inside its own universe.

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Its like dragon ball z rules. Even though Trunks helps stop androids in the past they are still evil murderers when he goes back to his future.
Or in this case when avengers accidentally give loki the stone in the past he is still killed by thanos when they go back totheir future.

Grand zeno is kinda like the tva.

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You probably shouldn't be watching Marvel movies if you can't understand the timeline stuff.

Loki died already in the main timeline, but in the main timeline the Avengers go into an alternative timeline where Loki is still alive to get the Space Stone. This Loki gets away using the Space Stone. The Avengers, Cap and Ironman go into another timeline, or perhaps another era in that same timeline (we don't know for sure) to get the Space Stone and go back to their own, main timelines.

The Loki as we know in the main timeline is dead and gone. The one we get in the show is like a regressed Loki, just how Gomora is past, regressed Gomora. The Loki we have now isn't someone from the main timeline/universe. He doesn't necessarily have to die, nor is there a Thanos from that timeline, if you want to be nitpicky with it.

so did Steve return the tesseract to New Jersey or to the one in nyc?

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It should be noted that Hulk always made the Space Stone drop. It always fell and then they picked it up and took it to Asgard.

The split happens when Loki looks at it and picks it up instead. Originally he just looks at it and does nothing. Hope that clears things up since I keep seeing confusion with that.

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InfinityMonster posted...

It should be noted that Hulk always made the Space Stone drop. It always fell and then they picked it up and took it to Asgard.

The split happens when Loki looks at it and picks it up instead. Originally he just looks at it and does nothing. Hope that clears things up since I keep seeing confusion with that.

I didnt think about that


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Bleuets posted...

But them resetting that timeline didnt fix the sacred timeline as Loki would still be missing from that one.

No. TV Loki is a variant from an aborted timeline.

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MhkaCHemistry posted...

It's not great 10/10 writing

Herman Goering was 'a bit dodgy'? - Kryten

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