Current Events > Ok so, here's the deal....FFXIV isn't bad

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From the same guy who's rotation i posted



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I don't personally do this but you can put the R, T, F, G, or whatever keys on your hotbar if you wanna keep everything close to the left.

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Meh decided against investing any more time into learning samuri, just gonna stick with ninja since i'm already familiar with it and it's fun. I'll revisit once i hit level cap.

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Samurai just seems more overwhelming because it dumps a bunch of moves on you with the class starting at 50.

Itll help a lot that youre being eased into Ninja by leveling it first because ninja gets busy at later levels.

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ok i think i have a hotbar setup that works for me for my lvl 50 opener rotation



EDIT: The opener i'm trying to learn rn


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check out the level 80 opener for ninja when you get the chance

:^)

it's a lot of fun

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I know it gets more complicated, don't fuck me around. I'm barely able to get a handle on the current skillset.

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Just beat leviathan and am on the riot questline, how close am I to expac 1?

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you're not that far off

so right now i'm in lvl 50 crafted gear, should I be looking to stick with that until lvl 60?

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the game will hand you gear constantly from quests so don't worry about it

How single player friendly is the main quest line?

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chrono625 posted...

How single player friendly is the main quest line?

I've never felt the need to quest with anyone, it's EZPZ, you'll be overleveled for the most part, and for dungeons you just get grouped into a party with other players.

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I forget what ilvl crafted gear is, but the best gear for 50/60/70 is poetics gear which you can get in more dhona at 50. Dungeon drops in dungeons 53+ will be an upgrade but you don't need to grind for them, just take what you get.

You may need to finish ARR, I'm not sure when that unlocks. But as long as you are still on level 50 content crafted is perfectly fine.

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I think my ilvl is around 130 with the crafted gear, it's better than ironworks stuff.

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pogo_rabid posted...

I think my ilvl is around 130 with the crafted gear, it's better than ironworks stuff.

Oh you should be fine then.

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Although I agree the game is very single player friendly, you should join a free company anyway. Many are oriented toward people who just want to play casually but also want the various bonuses a free company offers.

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Smackems posted...

I can't make myself play it. The antiquated combat kills it for me

Same. Can't do it.

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ssjevot posted...

Although I agree the game is very single player friendly, you should join a free company anyway. Many are oriented toward people who just want to play casually but also want the various bonuses a free company offers.

What kind of bonuses we talkin?

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I skip the whole story

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ffxiv is very, very guilty of padding. and that's an issue in a sub-based game. like an ethical issue. like how they sell you extra inventory space while not letting you turn off auto-loot.

you start to realize that every npc has three boxes worth of dialogue and that they are placed predictably distant from any means to truncate time. the design to weight time and exp against a monthly cost pokes through the mesh.

i have a whole lot to say about ffxiv because i really want to like it, and i think it could maybe grow from its roots as a very rigid and very mmorpg-maker style game where a lot of the class design is copy+paste and placeholder; 20% mitigation for 20 seconds on all the tank classes, 30% mitigation for 15 seconds on all the tank classes with just slightly different features and names. yeah, there's some amateur shit going on. really pretty game though.

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pogo_rabid posted...

What kind of bonuses we talkin?

its minor shit like %10 exp from fc actions, does not matter at all in the long term because the bulk of your exp gains from subsequent classes come from roulette bonuses and eventually bozja

Fluttershy posted...

like how they sell you extra inventory space while not letting you turn off auto-loot.

this is literally a you problem, i've been playing since launch, have many millions of gil and never had to buy another retainer because im not a weirdo hoarder

this is literally a you problem, i've been playing since launch, have many millions of gil and never had to buy another retainer because im not a weirdo hoarder

no, it's not. maybe try to learn to identify pressures; i never said i was overwhelmed by it or that i couldn't accommodate. the issue is that i have to. and that there's a price point on a means to make it so i don't have to as often. fucking think man!

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yeah its so hard to trash worthless items, takes so much thought

it's not difficult. i never said that. but it takes time. and that adds up. and you pay for time to play.

is any of that sinking in? can you maybe disengage if this is out of your depth?

like to anyone else who probably caught the drift, mostly anyone. that adds up across a hundred billion players. damn that's a lot of nerds in limsa.

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woah taking time in an MMO!?!?!?!? thats fucking wild dude

i never said it was rare. how much time do you have in mmos, just curious?

actually that was probably the disengage i was trying to offer. okay. carry on reis. ffxiv is really pretty though. like i can see why you'd like it. heh heh heh

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i've been playing since launch, have many millions of gil and never had to buy another retainer because im not a weirdo hoarder

but also think about what this implies, all the neurotic micro-managing you've had to do. because they never gave you the chance to skip it. you may have maxed inventory space, but it's only because you've kept on top of a system you never opted into. that is my issue.

i'm not a hoarder. i'm lazy. i would leave that shit on the ground if the game gave me the choice, but it doesn't, because that would alleviate a time cost. a lot of their choices are informed by that, and it is apparent, and it makes the game feel chintzy to me. thank you for getting me going. i might go ham on 40-second taunts next. like what the fuck, way to write yourself out of interesting damage.

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Reis posted...

its minor shit like %10 exp from fc actions, does not matter at all in the long term because the bulk of your exp gains from subsequent classes come from roulette bonuses and eventually bozja

Having a big ass company chest to share duplicates of minions, songs, crafting materials etc. is a big bonus. Maybe it's different in Japan, but even though we rarely run content together everyone shares a lot of stuff. We also have a company house which lets you get a room for a lot less trouble than getting your own house.

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ssjevot posted...

Maybe it's different in Japan, but even though we rarely run content together everyone shares a lot of stuff.

yeah probably tbh, for most FCs in the west its just a rotation of whatever exp buff they wanna put up for the day and thats it unless you get into an actual good FC (which most people wont)

I've never been in an fc with more than like 8 active players. We almost exclusively use the buff to extend food duration. Sometimes the one to reduce gear wear, 10% exp buff, or weakness reducer when raiding. Other FCs use reduced teleport rates because for some reason they don't use aetheryte tickets.

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Food duration always felt like a waste to me as well. Honestly the FC buffs aren't really major dealbreakers I guess.. just nice little bonuses.

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my FC was a HC WF raid FC so we had weakness and food running 24/7

now i server transferred and i don't miss being in an FC at all, they're only really nice if you need a house or are leveling. But me being max level on every job negates those benefits :(

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Vyrulisse posted...

Food duration always felt like a waste to me as well. Honestly the FC buffs aren't really major dealbreakers I guess.. just nice little bonuses.

It saves a raid food here and there. Like you said, not much else is super useful.

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My FC is really nice and welcoming. There's a Discord and they have events once a month with giveaways.

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So the WoW streamer asmongold is on a podcast with a FFXIV streamer Zepla because he said he was going to try FFXIV, and honestly it's like an intervention/therapy session for him. It's both hilarious and depressing how bad he's got it in WoW. I'll post the vod when it goes up

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pogo_rabid posted...

So the WoW streamer asmongold is on a podcast with a FFXIV streamer Zepla because he said he was going to try FFXIV, and honestly it's like an intervention/therapy session for him. It's both hilarious and depressing how bad he's got it in WoW. I'll post the vod when it goes up

Really? What happened?

I know who he is but I never really followed what happened after he announced he'll be playing FFXIV.

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He has a weekly podcast call "allcraft" he runs with another twitch streamer/wow player (Rich Campbell) who recently fell in love with FFXIV, basically they spent the entire show talking about FFXIV with a long time FFXIV player who went into her thoughts on the game vs WoW and demystifing the game for Asmon. There's a ton to unpack, but it's ending shortly so i'll post the vod, it's super funny so it's worth a watch

EDIT: Here's the vod, the podcast starts at the 5:35:40 timestamp, and continues on til the end of the video
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1066131771

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I tried several times to get into ff14 but it never grabbed me. Was playing tbc classic and was getting bored so I thought I'd give ff14 one more shot and now I'm fucking hooked real bad. I can't remember the last time I had this much fun with a game. Gonna finish leveling dark knight to 50 tie up a few loose ends and then it's off to the heavansward msq.

Also your chocobo doubling as a battle companion might just be my favorite feature in any MMO.

IronWolf87 posted...

Also your chocobo doubling as a battle companion might just be my favorite feature in any MMO.

Battle birdhorse best birdhorse

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lmao, someone just came up to me randomly while i was afk in a city and gave me a mount



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lol nice. that one is pretty cheap but it's kinda cute

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So many antelopes from firmament

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Here's the podcast without the other 5 hours of the stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpbdxAFMzuw

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pogo_rabid posted...

He has a weekly podcast call "allcraft" he runs with another twitch streamer/wow player (Rich Campbell) who recently fell in love with FFXIV, basically they spent the entire show talking about FFXIV with a long time FFXIV player who went into her thoughts on the game vs WoW and demystifing the game for Asmon. There's a ton to unpack, but it's ending shortly so i'll post the vod, it's super funny so it's worth a watch

EDIT: Here's the vod, the podcast starts at the 5:35:40 timestamp, and continues on til the end of the video
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1066131771

Actually watched from that timestamp to the end. Was a pretty entertaining stream.

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SpiritSephiroth posted...

Actually watched from that timestamp to the end. Was a pretty entertaining stream.

I gave a follow on twitch since I don't have any FFXIV streamers I follow. Really dig her sense of humor

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lol it's insane how leveling has nosedived between 2.0 and 3.0, I get it, but it seems like i've been stuck on lvl 56 for ages now.

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uh yeah of course leveling is "harder" on subsequent jobs, they literally boosted the exp gains from quests by x2 to make sure ppl playing the first time thru dont get stuck having to actually level like we had to when doing expacs when they were current

it was like from either 46 or 47 to 50 for the final msq quest in base ARR and you literally had to FATE grind it back then

You're mistaken, i'm talking about the MSQ content between 2.0 and 3.0. MSQ quests took a nosedive in exp given so you're basically given nothing at all.

As I said, I "get it" as to the why, but it still whiplashy from getting hundereds of thousands of exp per quest to like 10k.

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