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Josiah_Is_Back
06/12/21 12:27:34 PM
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Goku did not reach deific levels of power on his own. It took a mystical ritual for him to reach SSJ God. Then, he only tapped into Ultra Instinct thanks to a freak scenario involving his Spirit Bomb. Goku did not "achieve" either of these abilities.

Jiren, on the other hand, reached those godly heights of power completely on his own, even matching MUI out of sheer will and determination.

Jiren is far more impressive than Goku will ever be. Deal with it.

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Irony
06/12/21 12:28:14 PM
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Shut the fuck up

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Veggeta X
06/12/21 12:28:27 PM
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Jiren is a coward tho

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CM_Ponch
06/12/21 12:28:47 PM
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Okay but Jiren lost

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Xavier_On_High
06/12/21 12:35:31 PM
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As I said in the other topic, Jiren would have doomed the multiverse with his selfish wish. Goku would have made the same wish as 17. That's more impressive to me.

Heck, Goku probably would have wished for even more universes to be created so that there were more people for him to fight.

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Strider102
06/12/21 12:39:24 PM
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Does that mean Android 17 > Everyone?

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Garioshi
06/12/21 12:42:02 PM
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nobody cares about power levels you fucking nerd

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/12/21 12:53:00 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Okay but Jiren lost

That negates nothing from the OP

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Spidey5
06/12/21 12:58:55 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back
06/12/21 6:55:23 PM
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Irony posted...
Shut the fuck up

*cries the Goku fanboy*

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Cemith
06/12/21 6:56:29 PM
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Wasn't SSJ only achievable through the ritual anyway.

Also Jiren lost and is boring

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matchboxsantana
06/12/21 6:58:53 PM
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Josiah_Is_Back posted...
Goku did not reach deific levels of power on his own. It took a mystical ritual for him to reach SSJ God. Then, he only tapped into Ultra Instinct thanks to a freak scenario involving his Spirit Bomb. Goku did not "achieve" either of these abilities.

Jiren, on the other hand, reached those godly heights of power completely on his own, even matching MUI out of sheer will and determination.

Jiren is far more impressive than Goku will ever be. Deal with it.

jiren = geodude
goku = charmander
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uwnim
06/12/21 7:09:27 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
As I said in the other topic, Jiren would have doomed the multiverse with his selfish wish. Goku would have made the same wish as 17. That's more impressive to me.

Heck, Goku probably would have wished for even more universes to be created so that there were more people for him to fight.
Goku probably would have wished for something dumb. Like being able to fight Jiren again. >_> At best, he lucks into the right wish by wishing they could do this tournament again sometime.

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matchboxsantana
06/12/21 7:16:26 PM
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uwnim posted...
Goku probably would have wished for something dumb. Like being able to fight Jiren again. >_> At best, he lucks into the right wish by wishing they could do this tournament again sometime.

He did hit himself in the head as a baby when crash landing on earth, after all.
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Webmaster4531
06/12/21 7:21:07 PM
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What happens in the manga version? They're dropping the dual canon stuff right?
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KlRBEH
06/12/21 7:21:26 PM
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I dont think anyone would argue with the fact of whether or not Jiren is more naturally powerful than Goku

You completely missed the point of Gokus character if you think him being naturally strong was his draw

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The_Korey
06/12/21 7:29:46 PM
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That's kinda the point? Goku and other Saiyans grow to match the resistance they get. On average, Goku's universe is the second weakest of the group. Just about everyone's supposed to have a home-grown head start on natural strength/ability over Goku.

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Wedge Antilles
06/12/21 7:31:13 PM
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Jiren is lame.

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--Zero-
06/12/21 7:34:54 PM
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You really are in love with Jiren, huh?

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/12/21 7:50:58 PM
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KlRBEH posted...
I dont think anyone would argue with the fact of whether or not Jiren is more naturally powerful than Goku

You completely missed the point of Gokus character if you think him being naturally strong was his draw

We have no indication that Jiren is naturally predisposed to great power, either. For all we know, he trains harder than Goku.

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Turbam
06/12/21 7:53:11 PM
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I'm loving this Jiren gimmick, Josiah. Almost reminds me of the good ol days with Undertaker's stream.

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Josiah_Is_Back
06/13/21 12:13:46 AM
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Turbam posted...
I'm loving this Jiren gimmick, Josiah. Almost reminds me of the good ol days with Undertaker's stream.

:)

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