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The Trent
06/03/21 2:41:38 PM
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/grimes-a-i-communism-tiktok-1177854/

grimes seems really smart and thoughtful plus her husband is ultragenius elon musk
is she right in this assessment?


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CanuckCowboy
06/03/21 2:42:53 PM
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Grimes is the type of person whose epiphanies and ideas primarily revolve around meth binges. Let's be real.

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monkmith
06/03/21 2:45:05 PM
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she's having an existential crisis. how are the super rich gonna make more money in a world where AI replace the workforce and nobody has an income?

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
06/03/21 2:45:15 PM
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Is it her own thoughts or is it stuff her husband has told her to talk about in hopes his company will make more money?

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Broseph_Stalin
06/03/21 2:46:36 PM
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monkmith posted...
how are the super rich gonna make more money in a world where AI replace the workforce and nobody has an income?

people who think we work just to have jobs are wild
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The Trent
06/03/21 2:58:34 PM
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so canadian musician grimes is not a good source of information about AI? i mean she's married to elon musk

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fuming
06/03/21 3:01:10 PM
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No, grimes is very stupid. Its best to assume she is never right.
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Squall28
06/03/21 3:03:06 PM
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fuming posted...
No, grimes is very stupid. Its best to assume she is never right.

You are only saying that because she's a woman. How dare you

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eston
06/03/21 3:03:55 PM
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The Trent
06/03/21 3:04:04 PM
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wow so you guys really think elon musk would marry a stupid meth head musician that will parrot his narratives?

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CanuckCowboy
06/03/21 3:05:00 PM
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The Trent posted...
wow so you guys really think elon musk would marry a stupid meth head musician that will parrot his narratives?

I didnt say she's stupid.

I also don't think Elon is especially smart.

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ShyOx
06/03/21 3:08:37 PM
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Lol no she's an idiot

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The Trent
06/03/21 4:25:55 PM
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hey

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Joohny
06/03/21 5:04:26 PM
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I agree that skynet-esque AI dictator is probably the closest chance communism has for actually succeeding

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WingsOfGood
06/03/21 5:08:36 PM
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AI can be as greedy as humans. The designers who do not realize this do not understand AI.
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Sariana21
06/03/21 5:17:51 PM
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Hes not her husband. Theyre not married AFAIK.

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The Trent
06/03/21 5:19:01 PM
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Sariana21 posted...
Hes not her husband. Theyre not married AFAIK.

Oh
I thought they were for some reason
E: my bad

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The Trent
06/04/21 10:39:17 AM
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wait, is elon avoiding marrying her because she doesn't understand AI enough yet?

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BuckVanHammer
06/04/21 10:40:17 AM
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its a fun thing to discuss, but still a bit early to connect those dots i think. a fun hypothetical...

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Questionmarktarius
06/04/21 10:41:10 AM
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Total-automation just leads to Wall-E, which isn't exactly a Marxist paradise.
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Joohny
06/04/21 10:41:34 AM
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Why does she have shit all over her face?

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The Trent
06/04/21 10:41:40 AM
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is it possible that elon musk, in his travels through space and time, brought a girlfriend back from the future?

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PiOverlord
06/04/21 10:42:59 AM
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I have been saying it for years. The robots will take care of us, they will be out scientists, doctors, custodians, and politicians! We will truly have freedom.

#LETCAPITALISMKILLITSELF
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pure_temper
06/04/21 10:44:09 AM
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monkmith posted...
she's having an existential crisis. how are the super rich gonna make more money in a world where AI replace the workforce and nobody has an income?

https://moores.samaltman.com/

everyone needs to read this asap

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AlphaCuck
06/04/21 10:50:59 AM
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The Trent posted...
wait, is elon avoiding marrying her because she doesn't understand AI enough yet?
lol

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The Trent
06/04/21 10:51:24 AM
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but what if the robots become capitalist?

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TheoryzC
06/04/21 10:52:13 AM
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Grimes is on drugs

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The Trent
06/04/21 4:34:50 PM
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Thats okay though

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hockeybub89
06/04/21 4:43:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
people who think we work just to have jobs are wild
A lot of people do. If everyone had a basic income, those who chose to work would be doing so for the love of the work and the extra money, not out of some requirement to not die in the street.

It doesn't help that Republicans think people should be forced to work just for the sake of it. They'd be ok with millions of people working 60 hours a week for $8/hour because they'd tell themselves they are teaching them work ethic. Those people can take the free time they don't have and better themselves with the money they also don't have. At least they are employed and worth something, but not much because their jobs don't matter, except when there is no one willing to work them.

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MedeaLysistrata
06/04/21 4:50:09 PM
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hate farming? get rid of food


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BlingBling22947
06/06/21 6:25:55 AM
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pure_temper posted...
https://moores.samaltman.com/

everyone needs to read this asap

Why?

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Questionmarktarius
06/06/21 2:53:18 PM
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BlingBling22947 posted...
Why?
Why not?
Looks like a decent attempt to explain a transitional phase into post-scarcity.
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uwnim
06/06/21 2:57:10 PM
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If you actually wanted communism, you'd basically need a commie AI to replace the worthless bureaucracy communist nations end up with.

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Musourenka
06/06/21 3:02:21 PM
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No, she's wrong.

The whole "AI will fix everything" narrative is short-sighted at best.

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Questionmarktarius
06/06/21 3:02:59 PM
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Musourenka posted...
The whole "AI will fix everything" narrative is short-sighted at best.
Terminator tried to warn us.
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Pepys Monster
06/06/21 3:12:54 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
I also don't think Elon is especially smart.
He's both smart, and a sociopath. He didn't become the world's richest man by accident.

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CanuckCowboy
06/06/21 3:15:14 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
He's both smart, and a sociopath. He didn't become the world's richest man by accident.

Do you think any of us would have ever heard of him if he wasn't born obscenely wealthy?

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Pepys Monster
06/06/21 3:16:45 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Do you think any of us would have ever heard of him if he wasn't born obscenely wealthy?
Just being born wealthy isn't enough to become the world's richest man. Imagine besting Jeff Bezos. Trump's net worth is a drop in the bucket compared to his.

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CanuckCowboy
06/06/21 3:18:11 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Just being born wealthy isn't enough to become the world's richest man. Imagine besting Jeff Bezos. Trump's net worth is a drop in the bucket compared to his.

But do you think he ever would've become what he is - or famous, or a billionaire - had he not been born obscenely wealthy?

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DespondentDeity
06/06/21 3:18:58 PM
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Forced farming is definitely not a vibe tho

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Pepys Monster
06/06/21 3:25:00 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
But do you think he ever would've become what he is - or famous, or a billionaire - had he not been born obscenely wealthy?
He'd have more hurdles, that's for sure. He's good at the corporate world, and he'd throw anyone under the bus to get ahead. But I think a bigger fish would keep him under his thumb, and he'd top out as a normal executive or something.

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CanuckCowboy
06/06/21 3:25:39 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
He'd have more hurdles, that's for sure. He's good at the corporate world, and he'd throw anyone under the bus to get ahead. But I think a bigger fish would keep him under his thumb, and he'd top out as a normal executive or something.

Yeah that sounds about right.

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The Wheelman1
06/06/21 3:34:01 PM
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Well they still need human workers to do maintenance on the AI bots.

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DJquackquack
06/06/21 3:56:40 PM
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Apparently TC is warned. Im a lil surprised too, cuz he seems like a cool dude.

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ButteryMales
06/06/21 4:30:02 PM
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DJquackquack posted...
Apparently TC is warned. Im a lil surprised too, cuz he seems like a cool dude.
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