Current Events > The correct take on game difficulty

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Devs: here's a game we made how we wanted to make it

Whiny babies: TOO HARD GIVE EZ MODE

Depends. If the entire point of the game is the difficulty then lol no. On the other hand if it's a story-driven game where people might want to just play for the story, then sure, that makes more sense.

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Yes, and all games should have harder modes as well.

Everyone should be able to play a game be it on piss easy, or your going to die 100 times and more hard.

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dolomedes posted...

i'm overlooking that because it's silly.

'let artists have their art' when you're talking about games that take hundreds of artists to make. nobody's forcing game devs to do anything.

i love a singular vision. indie games made by one person, albums that one person plays and produces, movies made by a tiny crew...
idk man i think you're getting bent out of shape over a total non-issue.

Are we already getting to the part where we gotta project emotions on each other instead of be mature and just see it as 2 people having a conversation? Im good on that, if that's what we're doing. We literally got the same energy, if you can look at it objectively. No one really went up and above.

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Don't like it, don't play it. Devs shouldn't waste time and resources to cater to these kinds of people.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Yes, and all games should have harder modes as well.

Everyone should be able to play a game be it on piss easy, or your going to die 100 times and more hard.

Correct! Have sliders for every goddamn variable in the game for all I care!

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

When you beat it without cheats, you feel fuckin amazing. Fine is underwhelming.

Exactly. People are robbing themselves when they do that

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Squall28 posted...

Exactly. People are robbing themselves when they do that

And that matters to you how?

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One of the best games I beat 100% I started on the easiest setting, when the hardest mode was beaten I was very happy with myself and how fun it still was.

Love you even in 2021 Halo Reach

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dolomedes posted...

lmao

being able to 'sit down and watch the whole thing' is exactly why easier difficulty options is a good addition to a game

also movies take an hour and a half, two hours of inactivity. games can take dozens of hours of interactivity.

Games are a more complicated form of entertainment to talk about in that regard.

But getting the story is only part of it. If thats all you care about, look it up on YouTube.

And if were talking about a game like Sekiro. You can watch all the cutscenes in 45 minutes on YouTube but the game itself has 40 hours of gameplay at least in it.

Youre exactly right. Games take dozens of hours of interactivity. You dont just sit down for a couple of hours and take in the whole experience like a movie. So why would anyone want special treatment and not have to work through a game like Sekiro just to see 45 minutes of shit they could watch on YouTube?

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dolomedes posted...

maybe bent out of shape is the wrong term. i didn't mean to be aggro.

how many CE users can call me immature in one hour? logging off

What shape are people before they're bent out of it? What is our starting shape?

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SwayM posted...

Games are a more complicated form of entertainment to talk about in that regard.

But getting the story is only part of it. If thats all you care about, look it up on YouTube.

And if were talking about a game like Sekiro. You can watch all the cutscenes in 45 minutes on YouTube but the game itself has 40 hours of gameplay at least in it.

Youre exactly right. Games take dozens of hours of interactivity. You dont just sit down for a couple of hours and take in the whole experience like a movie. So why would anyone want special treatment and not have to work through a game like Sekiro just to see 45 minutes of shit they could watch on YouTube?

Sekiro has some truly amazing environments and stage gimmicks, and the mobility in general just feels fantastic. Those things don't change with an easy mode, and someone who just happens to be bad at fighting Sekiro's bosses or combat in general would never get to experience the majority of what the game has to offer.

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I would love it if games did that. Hell, I paid actual money to unlock infinite ammo in RE2 after I had already beaten it twice normally, and it gave me a reason to play through another couple of times.

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Seems like a case of git gud scrub

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People are still whining about all games should have an easy mode?

Not every game is meant to be accessible to everybody so get good and stop bitching or don't play at all.

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Might as well just add in the developer tools and call it a day.

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Strider102 posted...

Might as well just add in the developer tools and call it a day.

Why not? I love exploring out-of-bounds in games.

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iPhone_7 posted...

There should be no difficulty settings and if you die you start over from the beginning. and if you have a problem with that then git gud

gacha games should be like this, any game over means you gotta grind/spend money again and you don't get to grind finished quests anymore

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The guy in the opening post sounds like he would cry if he found out unique lore is locked behind (savage) raiding in Final Fantasy XIV.

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Does TC want all games to have an easy mode?

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Nope. If you don't think you can beat the game with the difficulty they give you, don't get it.
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I dislike the conflation of an easy mode with accessibility options. The latter should really only be used by people with physical disabilities, which is the only reason they should be considered. Not every game needs an easy mode though, since not every game is difficult for reasons like enemy health or dealing damage.

And people who want to cheat are always free to. There's a reason save editors and cheat engine on PC exists. No need to strong arm devs into adding god mode for you.

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Not every game needs to have different difficulty modes but I'm fine with cheats that disable achievements and online play. They should be more common.

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What if from added an easy/assisted mode, but locked all achievements and one or two of the endings, saying "We want everyone to experience this game, but to get the full experience we recommend playing at the default difficulty."
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Jobs should have an easy mode

I shouldn't have to struggle

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LightningAce11 posted...

What if from added an easy/assisted mode, but locked all achievements and one or two of the endings, saying "We want everyone to experience this game, but to get the full experience we recommend playing at the default difficulty."

No

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Easy mode is fine. Just give exclusive rewards for higher difficulties.

Dakimakura posted...

Here da real truth: All games should give you full access to all the console commands. Let you design and play the game the way you want to.

I started using console commands in skyrim... not to cheat or bypass difficulty but because of glitches. Skills wouldn't level up when trained, quest npcs would fuck up in various ways etc. The only time I've just used it for convenience was when I missed some optional thing in that giant cave system that connects to all the dwarven ruins. I just did not want to go back down there >_>
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